madmax Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 It just smacks to me that criticizing Harper now is just a cheap shot.... No Harper is running scared, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 jdobbin, is every single thing that Harper or the Tories do wrong?You seem to attack them no matter what they do. Is it that this is a political forum and everyone is supposed to be hyper-partisan? Just curious. Thats rather amusing, coming from you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 And was kicked out of caucus the problem with your post was that you didn't mention that making the post look hyper-partisan. she was kicked out of the party when she accepted the appointment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Sigh yes you pointed that out right after someone else mentioned as soon as she was pointed they kicked her out. Making her NOT a member of the NDP party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Thats rather amusing, coming from you.... How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) 6 minutes before the last quote: Someone should have let Lillian Dyck know that when she was appointed in 2005. The party refuse to allow her to be a member of their caucus after her appointment; however, as an NDP politician, she still accepted a senate seat. Edited December 11, 2008 by cybercoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 That's not what I said. The poster I was replying to said the NDP doesn't accept senate seats. I showed that an NDP member in 2005 accepted a senate seat, that's all. And its difficult to tell what that meant. There is no NDP member in the Senate. And therefore, while you may or may not be technically correct on the appointment, however it is clear that the NDP will have nothing to do with those who accept a Senate seat. Which does undermine the comment prior to your point of fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 And its difficult to tell what that meant. There is no NDP member in the Senate. And therefore, while you may or may not be technically correct on the appointment, however it is clear that the NDP will have nothing to do with those who accept a Senate seat. Which does undermine the comment prior to your point of fact. You said the "NDP will not accept senate seats". Lillian Dyck was NDP and accepted a senate seat. Although she was theoretically kicked out of the party, she sits in the senate as an "Independent New Democratic Party" member. It's clear where her priorities are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 You said the "NDP will not accept senate seats". Lillian Dyck was NDP and accepted a senate seat. She may have been from the NDP, but she's not The NDP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 You said the "NDP will not accept senate seats". Lillian Dyck was NDP and accepted a senate seat. Although she was theoretically kicked out of the party, she sits in the senate as an "Independent New Democratic Party" member. It's clear where her priorities are. Once and NDP member always a NDP member right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 And its difficult to tell what that meant. There is no NDP member in the Senate. And therefore, while you may or may not be technically correct on the appointment, however it is clear that the NDP will have nothing to do with those who accept a Senate seat. Which does undermine the comment prior to your point of fact. The NDP are a protest party, nothing more. They haven't earned any right to a senate seat as far as I can see. Elizabeth May(GP) who is an American, sitting on our Senate? No thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 She may have been from the NDP, but she's not The NDP. You're really splitting hairs. The entire party does not get appointed to the Senate, politicians are appointed. By saying the NDP doesn't accept senate positions, it is implied that you mean "members of the NDP do not accept senate positions". That's not necessarily the case because this member of the NDP did accept a seat. Sure, she was kicked out of the party, but she still identifies herself as an Independent New Democrat. Once and NDP member always a NDP member right? That's not what I said either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 The NDP are a protest party, nothing more. They haven't earned any right to a senate seat as far as I can see.Elizabeth May(GP) who is an American, sitting on our Senate? No thank you. Considering they represent 20% of Canada I think they have a little bit of a right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 The NDP are a protest party, nothing more. Ummm, no. Elizabeth May(GP) who is an American, And ummmm....no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 You're really splitting hairs. No I'm not. The NDP as a party doesn't recognize the senate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) Considering they represent 20% of Canada I think they have a little bit of a right. Actually, 17.48% of votes casted, not 20% of Canadians. Not anywhere close. Edited December 11, 2008 by cybercoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Ummm, no.And ummmm....no. Elizabeth May certainly is an American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 You're really splitting hairs. The entire party does not get appointed to the Senate, politicians are appointed. By saying the NDP doesn't accept senate positions, it is implied that you mean "members of the NDP do not accept senate positions". No we imply unlike the Cons when we talk about the Senate we don't just do it to get elected we believe in what we say. The party acts on their redirect and is willing to give up things like this to stand their ground. Unlike Harper apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 No I'm not. The NDP as a party doesn't recognize the senate.I never said they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Elizabeth May certainly is an American. She's certainly not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I never said they did. Well I'm not really sure what you were trying to say then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 No we imply unlike the Cons when we talk about the Senate we don't just do it to get elected we believe in what we say. The party acts on their redirect and is willing to give up things like this to stand their ground. Unlike Harper apparently. red-herring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Elizabeth May certainly is an American. Yah because living in Canada for the last 34 does not qualify her to voice her opinion. Infact you must live in Canada for 35 years to get the right to vote or be in the Senate. Wait one second that is not true at all. In fact their are many people who were born in Canada who have lived her less time then her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 She's certainly not. born June 9, 1954, Hartford, Connecticut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 The NDP ............ They haven't earned any right to a senate seat as far as I can see. Gosh, thats terrible. And since many of the Senators of christmas past are from an Era when the CCF existed, there have never been any of them in the Senate either. And that's a good thing. The Senate is a place were exiting Prime Ministers put the failed helpers into cushy jobs. And to keep things quiet, they offer a couple bones to the other parties failed helpers. Nothing like being sent out to pasture... Elizabeth May(GP) who is an American, sitting on our Senate? No thank you. I heard Stephens thinking about it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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