maplesyrup Posted March 20, 2004 Author Report Posted March 20, 2004 How do you reconconcile those comments with earlier Harper comments that resulted in a unanimous condemnation of his remarks in the NS Legislature? We are obviously not talking about some minor event. Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
August1991 Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 How do you reconconcile those comments with earlier Harper comments that resulted in a unanimous condemnation of his remarks in the NS Legislature? Am I wrong in making this comparison? About 30 years ago, Trudeau mused about selling wheat and then went on to explain why the Federal Government, why the State, has a role to play in critical private matters. Trudeau was roundly condemned for his musing - and he's probably still hated for it. Harper recently mused about Atlantic Canada and how Federal Government welfare has not been helpful. Harper has been roundly condemned - and no doubt some Maritimers will never forget his comment. Is it wrong to muse in public in such a way? Neither Trudeau nor Harper were wrong. (BTW, I think Trudeau was more right than Harper.) In crudely electoral terms, where are the seats and how did the rest of Canada react? Harper was wiser in his sortie than Trudeau. But I'm convinced, naively perhaps, that neither Harper nor Trudeau did it thinking about votes. We Canadians are so unforgiving of thinking politicians. No wonder the Vander Zalms of our small political world dominate. Quote
Alliance Fanatic Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 Well, I think that most people would think that the people in the ND Socialist group would have wacko views, lets break our ties with the US, and make treaties with the pinko commies in Cuba. Harper said that their needs to be new initiatives to revitalize Atlantic Canada's economy, right now, I would probably work in Atlantic Canada as a police officer any day, but any person who says that Atlantic Canada does not need welfare payments, and the economy is booming is a complete idiot. Quote "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others" - George Orwell's Animal Farm
MapleLeafMerc Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 Harper has been involved in quite a few serious controversies. -from an editorial in todays Toronto Star. maplesyrup, quoting the Star is like quoting Marx. Could you give us a source we can take seriously? Thanks! Quote
Goldie Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 If you heard Stephen Harper speak tonight you must be convinced he is the real deal. Not just leader of the CPC but also PM. C'mon, admit it everyone. Quote
August1991 Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 If you heard Stephen Harper speak tonight you must be convinced he is the real deal. Not just leader of the CPC but also PM. C'mon, admit it everyone. I deliberately didn't watch. I saw him in Mtl in person. (IMV, he's no Lévesque, no Trudeau. He's just tall and shy. Ontario guy with an MA in Economics from Calgary.) Will Ontario voters feel comfortable with him? This will be the 1979 Election. Quote
Goldie Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 Please listen to him August1991, it is one of the best in say 30 years. here is the link (related Video in two parts) http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories the best was "why did I do it, because that is what the country needed, and that is what leaders do." Let me know if you agree. Quote
August1991 Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 I saw the Internet clip. I'll read the papers tomorrow, and discuss this with friends. But I think you're right. Well, Harper told the truth But he didn't bare his soul. For an honest English, he did his passionate message. I suspect he wanted it. Still, he's no Trudeau, Parizeau, Levesque, Ryan, Bouchard. But Goldie, I think you're right. Why? (Hearing this story, French Canadians will be curious now... Why did this English speak as he did.) Quote
Goldie Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 I know, this is about as passionate as English get, except maybe Broadbent. Thanks for taking the time and my hope is that Harper gets a serious look at election time. I also hope he hasn't peaked too early. Quote
willy Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 You are right August 1991, Harper is not a Quebec Lawyer. "still he's no Trudeau, Parizeau, Levesque, Bouchard." Quote
August1991 Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 You are right August 1991, Harper is not a Quebec Lawyer. I think Canada needs an English Trudeau. French federalists will listen, if he's honest. (You English federalists listened to Trudeau and were seduced because he was fancy. French federalists need more.) Does Harper have it? I don't know. Quote
maplesyrup Posted March 20, 2004 Author Report Posted March 20, 2004 Harper has been involved in quite a few serious controversies. -from an editorial in todays Toronto Star. maplesyrup, quoting the Star is like quoting Marx. Could you give us a source we can take seriously? Thanks! Do a google search on Harper defeatist and you get a bit of an image of what this angry man is all about. We need to start a joke of the day section so we could put in the hilarious comments about comparing Harper to Trudeau. Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
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