Coalition Government

[Alta4ever]

Your view that the Liberals wouldn't eventually say no to Harper is fairly naive as well.

Perhaps I was naive in underestimating the Liberals greed for both power and money.

Well when you have your head burried in the trough.

[jdobbin]

Perhaps I was naive in underestimating the Liberals greed for both power and money.

I think I didn't underestimate the Tory need to bully and run up deficits.

[BornAlbertan]

It isn't a loophole. It is part of the responsible government system.

Hopefully, some people will contain their violent natures and just vote if they want change.

I VOTED 2 F'ING MONTHS AGO!! I am sick of having an election every year as a matter of political convenience or the lack of compromizational and mature, rational debate skills.

[jdobbin]

Maybe he is but you demonstrate in every post that for you this is all about Harper and not the country. Bottom line is regardless of who forms it, we are in for a bickering parliament with an unstable government for the foreseeable future at a time when we need exactly the opposite. None of them can avoid responsibility for that.

Next you are going to say it is not fair.

Harper didn't care one white about the country the way he was using brinkmanship. I don't see that changing and if the Liberals back down now, I can see a resumption of the howling of coward and go for the throat politics once again.

[Oleg Bach]

Public servants demanding more money out of the master! Something is amiss in the servant master relationship? When are these people going to figure out who they are and what their reason for being is? It is not for the public to serve them and be enslaved to this class of politicals...They are our slaves...or servants..what ever. When someone is deployed and employed by the public and they do not provide the service agreed to in this social contract..You do not give them MORE money - you cut off the supply of money till they fall back into their proper positions of servitude.

[BornAlbertan]

I think I didn't underestimate the Tory need to bully and run up deficits.

THANK YOU!! I think you nailed the cause of the global economy tanking!!! WAY TO GO!!!

[jdobbin]

I VOTED 2 F'ING MONTHS AGO!! I am sick of having an election every year as a matter of political convenience or the lack of compromizational and mature, rational debate skills.

Well, the beauty of this is you don't have to vote again in an election. This is a courtesy for the vote weary.

[jdobbin]

So here's the big question what would the NDP and Liberals have to sell out to the Bloc to form their coalition? Are they really willing to work with seperatists to regain power?

Is Harper prepared to vote with the separatists to bring down a coalition government? The shame. Elections are costly.

Edited November 29, 2008 by jdobbin

[Alta4ever]

Well, the beauty of this is you don't have to vote again in an election. This is a courtesy for the vote weary.

A courtesy? Or maybe because liberals are too scared to go to the voting public over it? But alas cowards who crave power and their entitlements.

[BornAlbertan]

Well, the beauty of this is you don't have to vote again in an election. This is a courtesy for the vote weary.

You're right....and nobody voted for this "coalition".

THAT IS MY PROBLEM WITH IT!!

[Smallc]

I VOTED 2 F'ING MONTHS AGO!!

And if its necessary you'll vote again. That is one of three outcomes that can happen here. Its the way our system is set up. It seems to work pretty well the vast majority of the time.

[Alta4ever]

Is Harper prepared to vote with the separatists to bring down a coalition government? The shame. Elections are costly.

What are liberals giving the Bloc dobbin?

how do you retain thier vote?

[jdobbin]

What are liberals giving the Bloc dobbin?

Nothing. The don't seem to be asking for any positions in a new government and the Liberals are not offering anything.

how do you retain thier vote?

By retaining confidence on a wide range of issues: the same as any minority government.

[Alta4ever]

And if its necessary you'll vote again. That is one of three outcomes that can happen here. Its the way our system is set up. It seems to work pretty well the vast majority of the time.

Please lets vote again, if its a choice between having my democratic right subverted or voting in another election today, BRINGON THE ELECTION.

[jdobbin]

You're right....and nobody voted for this "coalition".

THAT IS MY PROBLEM WITH IT!!

Actually the majority of Canadians voted for the Opposition. Sorry.

[Smallc]

You're right....and nobody voted for this "coalition".

That doesn't really matter. Because of cheap political moves, the government has pretty much lost the confidence of the house and I'm not sure how they can get it back. If they don't manage to get it back within the next week, there will either be an election or a coalition government. The government needs to have the confidence of the house in order to govern. If this government can't get that confidence back, then the Governor General will find a way to get one in place that can.

[jdobbin]

Please lets vote again, if its a choice between having my democratic right subverted or voting in another election today, BRINGON THE ELECTION.

Sorry, no dice. Harper tried the same thing in 2004 when he wrote the Governor General and said she should turn to him rather than call an election if he brought down the government.

[Smallc]

Please lets vote again, if its a choice between having my democratic right subverted or voting in another election today, BRINGON THE ELECTION.

Your democratic rights aren't being subverted. They are being followed according to Westminster tradition.

[BornAlbertan]

Actually the majority of Canadians voted for the Opposition. Sorry.

yeah, they didn't vote for an NDiberal bed buddy fuck fest though.

The "coalition" would be an identity unto itself.

[Oleg Bach]

You're right....and nobody voted for this "coalition".

THAT IS MY PROBLEM WITH IT!!

Once you give in to this stuff you may as well move to Afghanistan...maybe we should have invaded ourselves and deposed the Canadian Taliban? YAH -------------------and get the Americans on board and BRING DEMOCRACY TO CANADA.

[Alta4ever]

Your democratic rights aren't being subverted. They are being followed according to Westminster tradition.

I see no great crisis other then the Liberals can't afford to go another election.

Edited November 29, 2008 by Alta4ever

[Alta4ever]

I prefer to vote for my governments instead of having back room deals done ot create them. There is no great war looming nothing that requies a swift change of government, we have time for another election if the opposition feels that they have no confidence in the current government.

[Smallc]

I see no great crisis other then the Liberals can't afford to go another election.

The crisis exists whether or not you can see it. The Conservative Government has lost the confidence of the House of Commons. If they can't regain in the next week, they will be defeated. It will be up to the Governor General to decide what happens. If another party presents a viable alternative, she is pretty much bound to at least consider the idea.

[Wilber]

Is Harper prepared to vote with the separatists to bring down a coalition government? The shame. Elections are costly.

A coalition lead by who, someone who belongs to a party which had the worse showing in its history during an election less than two months ago and holds only 25% of the seats in parliament? As much as I would hate another one, I think an election would be preferable.

[Slim MacSquinty]

What precisely is the crisis that allows them to seek to set such a huge precident, westminister rules or not? Is the liberals running out of money the worst crisis this country has faced in 100 years?

Politics is politics but playing games like this at the country's peril is ample evidence of pure green eyed greed.