Donaill Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) According to this article, Harper says that the current economic crisis is comparible to 1929. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2008/11...7495361-cp.html Edited November 23, 2008 by Donaill Quote
whowhere Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 Bush called Harper a good friend and a strong leader, and said they had accomplished a lot together. The president said U.S.-Canada relations are "sometimes complicated," but strong nevertheless. Doh, what has bush accomplished?? Wrecking the world economy and pissing away trillions on a war that resulted in what gain for the US exactly??? "I appreciate your candour, your character and your philosophy," Bush told Harper. Tweedle Dee, and tweedle dum. This article sounds like harper is gearing up to rationalize running deficits and driving Canada into Debt. Harper be a conservative!! Cut government spending and/or get rid of government dead weight to reduce government costs. Quote Job 40 (King James Version) 11 Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him. 12 Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place. 13 Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.
Argus Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 This article sounds like harper is gearing up to rationalize running deficits and driving Canada into Debt. Harper be a conservative!! Cut government spending and/or get rid of government dead weight to reduce government costs. Harper has not governed as either a social or fiscal conservative. In fact, it's hard to differentiate this party which calls itself Conservative from the Progressive Conservatives we all cordially loathed as "Liberal light". Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
eyeball Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 Harper has not governed as either a social or fiscal conservative. In fact, it's hard to differentiate this party which calls itself Conservative from the Progressive Conservatives we all cordially loathed as "Liberal light". Well, we're still calling them Tories after all that's been said and done. Your first clue should have been way back before Harper's first minority 'victory' when he was seeking advice on a daily basis from Brian Mulroney. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 According to this article, Harper says that the current economic crisis is comparible to 1929. There may be some general parallels, but practical circumstances are not directly comparable. For Canada, dependence on exports to US markets has actually tripled, and there is no protection via Empire preferences seen in the early 1930's. Both good and bad, Canada will be on its own this time around. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
whowhere Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 There may be some general parallels, but practical circumstances are not directly comparable. For Canada, dependence on exports to US markets has actually tripled, and there is no protection via Empire preferences seen in the early 1930's. Both good and bad, Canada will be on its own this time around. Canada is an extremely naturally wealthy country that has been hijacked by the gready. Canada is Humpty Dumpty. Like Humpty Dumpty is headed for a fall. The greedy saw opportunity in the Nafta Agreement and Low Canadian dollar versus the American Dollar. The greedy and the corrupt extends deep into the Conservative and Liberal parties alike and entrenched government bureacrats. They have prostituted Canada and made it a whore before the world. Canada stands for nothing. Canada's business model for the last 15 years was to say to the business world is come to Canada and set up shop and you can exploit Canadians and the Nafta agreement and funnel those goods into the US market. Mr World Businessman got upset with the rising Canadian dollar because he was no longer enjoying the easy profits of a lower Canadian dollar to pay for local costs and selling his goods in the US in American Dollars. Mr Businessman began to whine and cry to the politicians about the Dollar. Well, the Conservative party says we understand. Don't worry about labour/worker issues because we will open the flood gates of immigrants and work permits so you will have a pool of workers to drive down labour costs so you mister world business man can exploit Canada and Canadians to maximize your profits. Who got short changed here???? The greedy and the corrupt have prostituted Canada to the world just so they can exploit the selling of goods into the US market. The rooster has come home to roost and Canada is going to get what it deserves. I doubt Obama will tolerate and accept this Busines model Canada has been operating under going forward. If Canada is headed for a crisis, all it will do is empower and unite the grassroots and they will take measures to redress the ill policies of the greedy and corrupt. This could come in the form of a New political party coming into existence without the baggage of the traditional parties. Canada's plight rests on whether harper is going to walk the walk of being a conservative. That means no debt/deficits and cutting government spending. It means becoming a leader of what is "right". That means stop selling and prostituting Canada out. Quote Job 40 (King James Version) 11 Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him. 12 Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place. 13 Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.
craiger Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) Harper is a true blood Liberal to be confused by some name or banner is foolish, if you are that stupid you deserve what comes Edited November 24, 2008 by Charles Anthony deleted previous post re-copied in quotation Quote
craiger Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 sorry not directed at you whowhere. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 Canada is an extremely naturally wealthy country that has been hijacked by the gready. Canada is Humpty Dumpty. Like Humpty Dumpty is headed for a fall. Sure....very wealthy...but only when distributed to buying markets. The "highjackers" had plenty of company in the way of investors, labor, and government. The greedy saw opportunity in the Nafta Agreement and Low Canadian dollar versus the American Dollar. The greedy and the corrupt extends deep into the Conservative and Liberal parties alike and entrenched government bureacrats. They have prostituted Canada and made it a whore before the world. You are ignoring labor, eh? Canada stands for nothing. Canada's business model for the last 15 years was to say to the business world is come to Canada and set up shop and you can exploit Canadians and the Nafta agreement and funnel those goods into the US market. The other choice was insolvency and a broken economy. Canada has always lacked sufficient domestic capital, and not just for the past 15 years. Mr World Businessman got upset with the rising Canadian dollar because he was no longer enjoying the easy profits of a lower Canadian dollar to pay for local costs and selling his goods in the US in American Dollars. Mr Businessman began to whine and cry to the politicians about the Dollar. Well, the Conservative party says we understand. Don't worry about labour/worker issues because we will open the flood gates of immigrants and work permits so you will have a pool of workers to drive down labour costs so you mister world business man can exploit Canada and Canadians to maximize your profits. Maybe, but you would have to include American and Japanese autoworker jobs, exported call centers, and a brain drain caused by your own policies. Who got short changed here???? The greedy and the corrupt have prostituted Canada to the world just so they can exploit the selling of goods into the US market. The rooster has come home to roost and Canada is going to get what it deserves. I doubt Obama will tolerate and accept this Busines model Canada has been operating under going forward. If you must depend on what Obama does or doesn't do, then you are already too far gone. If Canada is headed for a crisis, all it will do is empower and unite the grassroots and they will take measures to redress the ill policies of the greedy and corrupt. This could come in the form of a New political party coming into existence without the baggage of the traditional parties. Canada's plight rests on whether harper is going to walk the walk of being a conservative. That means no debt/deficits and cutting government spending. It means becoming a leader of what is "right". That means stop selling and prostituting Canada out. Not going to happen. More bark than bite. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
madmax Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) Harper has not governed as either a social or fiscal conservative. In fact, it's hard to differentiate this party which calls itself Conservative from the Progressive Conservatives we all cordially loathed as "Liberal light". I concurr. This is getting easier to do. Edited November 24, 2008 by madmax Quote
Oleg Bach Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 Where is the leadership. Harper like a sheeple joins the herd and babs out gloom and doom...Why did he not say..we will remain positive and happy and full of hope - and we will not allow emotional depression to manifest itself in economic depression that will generate more mental illness and hoplessness..what's with this guy? A leader is not supposed to capitulate...but he has...I don't care if it's a so-called interwoven global economy - to hell with globalism - He has stated in so many words that the disease of hoplessness is welcome in Canada because we are all one global system that infects in unison. I say keep your chin up and to hell with those that welcome depression recession and regression. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 I concurr.This is getting easier to do. Thanks for agreeing with us yet again madmax. Paul Martin said in the 2006 election that "this isn't your fathers PC party" but you've all just said that it is. He also kept calling Mr. Harper a member of the "Alliance-Conservatives" and that he 'would change the country so much we wouldn't recognize Canada'. More lies. Mr. Harper and the Tories are a centrist party and are not at all scary as many have tried to paint them. I guess Paul Martin lied to us all. Shouldn't be surprised though after ADScam. The Liberals lie to us all. We have 4 left wing parties ( Green, NDP, BQ and the Liberal Party) and one Central party (CPC). Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Oleg Bach Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 They are only scarey when real scarey guys like Dick Cheney scare them into doing what the REAL scarey guys want out of Harper. All parties are centralist these days including the American ones - because most if not all politians no longer serve the public - but only serve the idea of continued rule through more elections and more pandering to the polls. What this selfish careerist attitude creates is a centralist that EVERYBODY likes - no more of doing the right thing - that could get you de-elected. Quote
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