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Jerry J. Fortin Grand Master

Jerry J. Fortin

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Voting is more about emptying the place of the leader than filling it.

You are right there dude! Most Canadians vote against things instead of for things. That is part of the democratic disease of apathy that is destroying our socirty.

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No need to apologize for Canada's history of fragmented politics and separatism, or constant threat of being "Americanized". Because the "end result" would not be up to Canada anyway.     America

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Our fractured are stretch marks as we grow. Don't mistake that with your own American osteoporosis.

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Bah. You should hear us at curling matches or at Tim Horton's g into a speaker. Seriously  that is your proof? Lol. You need a couple of hours in a pub with some Newfoundlanders. Seal killers. Then ju

lily Community Regular

lily

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You are right there dude! Most Canadians vote against things instead of for things. That is part of the democratic disease of apathy that is destroying our socirty.

Is it? Or is it because we're rarely given a chance to vote "for" something?

Most campaigns seem to me to be all about why the other guy sucks. Very rarely does a candidate step up with the reasons he doesn't.

I'll rise, but I won't shine.

Jerry J. Fortin Grand Master

Jerry J. Fortin

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Is it? Or is it because we're rarely given a chance to vote "for" something?

Most campaigns seem to me to be all about why the other guy sucks. Very rarely does a candidate step up with the reasons he doesn't.

I have said for a long time now that what we need is a leader with vision, in other words something to vote for.

benny Grand Master

benny

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You are right there dude! Most Canadians vote against things instead of for things. That is part of the democratic disease of apathy that is destroying our socirty.

Democracy per se is a destruction process.

Jerry J. Fortin Grand Master

Jerry J. Fortin

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Me too.

And not just leaders... all the other candidates too.

That would be nice! My MP is a party hack, back bencher and rarely speaks in the Commons. If he ever had a unique thought it would have died of loneliness. He is probably the average kinda MP.

lily Community Regular

lily

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My MP is very outspoken, and I respect him, even though he's fromthe "wrong" party. :)

My MLA is an independant, and time will tell whether she will be outspoken or relegate herself to the back benches of one side or the other.

I'll rise, but I won't shine.

Jerry J. Fortin Grand Master

Jerry J. Fortin

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My MP is very outspoken, and I respect him, even though he's fromthe "wrong" party. :)

My MLA is an independant, and time will tell whether she will be outspoken or relegate herself to the back benches of one side or the other.

I wish I had someone like that here, you lucky dog!

g_bambino Grand Master

g_bambino

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Most campaigns seem to me to be all about why the other guy sucks. Very rarely does a candidate step up with the reasons he doesn't.

Which is exactly why I think the last thing we need is an elected head of state.

jbg Grand Master

jbg

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Terrorists are zealous people, usually religious. Zealous people usually will do terrorist type acts to the extreme and continue indefinitely until they achieve their goal. A war you cannot win through force unless you're willing to eradicate.
What's your suggestion, caving in?
  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

jbg Grand Master

jbg

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There is a big difference between giving up and using diplomacy and understanding to achieve peace. At least exhaust these avenues before banging your chest
The use of diplomacy implies that both sides want a peaceful solution. There is no evidence that the Islamic world is looking for a peaceful solution to anything.

Their demands are unmeetable:

  1. Surrender Israel to the barbarians;
  2. Accept limits on anti-Muslim speech; and
  3. Accept subservience, or "dhimmitude".

Clearly none of the above is or at least should be on the table.

Thus there is a limited role for diplomacy.

  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

jbg Grand Master

jbg

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They may only happen to have a charisma.

Running the post-count eh?

  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

jbg Grand Master

jbg

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Okay fine. I will vote for him the minute he shows up, but until then.............

What riding is Jesus running from?

  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

jbg Grand Master

jbg

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Is it? Or is it because we're rarely given a chance to vote "for" something?

Most campaigns seem to me to be all about why the other guy sucks. Very rarely does a candidate step up with the reasons he doesn't.

What about a certain campaign that featured "Yes I Can"?

  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

jbg Grand Master

jbg

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Democracy per se is a destruction process.

What in tarnation are you babbling talking about?

  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

lily Community Regular

lily

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What about a certain campaign that featured "Yes I Can"?

I said "very rarely", not "never". :)

I'll rise, but I won't shine.

Remiel Grand Master

Remiel

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People voting for a constitutional monarchy are people voting against democracy.
What an odd thing to say. Do you not think that the essence of democracy is captured more purely in choosing how to be governed than in choosing who to be governed by?
Dictatorship consists in the way in which democracy is used and not in its abolition. (Rosa Luxemburg)

So, given your quote, has does your original comment make any sense? It would seem that if even a dictatorship is compatible with democracy, then a constitutional monarchy must also be compatible.

benny Grand Master

benny

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So, given your quote, has does your original comment make any sense? It would seem that if even a dictatorship is compatible with democracy, then a constitutional monarchy must also be compatible.

Hugo Chavez and Elizabeth II are both using democracy but contrary to Chavez, Queen Elizabeth only wants to save her face/family by doing so.

ToadBrother Grand Master

ToadBrother

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Hugo Chavez and Elizabeth II are both using democracy but contrary to Chavez, Queen Elizabeth only wants to save her face/family by doing so.

That doesn't even make any sense. Chavez is using democracy, or some variant of it (after he's basically shut down most of the press that opposes him) to create what amounts to a hybrid-democracy-dictatorship where he'll allow democracy providing it doesn't get in the way of his own power. As to QEII, well, her powers are largely hypothetical, and Parliament has been supreme since 1688, so she basically does what she's told by the Prime Minister.

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