Stephen Harper Is Just Like George Bush

[TomS]

Well i for one support Stephen Harper...This Country has been to soft on crime including young offenders who literally get away with murder we need to be more like Texas!! commit a serious crime down there and see what happens to ya!! and the military hasn t been given decent equipment under the Liberals for way too long and its time for a full pledged Tory Goverment! In a world full of terrorists trying to destroy the west and a crime rate going through the roof there is no place for a Liberal Goverment!!...With any luck Harper will scrap the idiotic gun registry..under the Libs the only people who should have a gun is the bad guys...taking guns from responible gun owners makes no sense...its time to make this country strong Militarily..Justice System..and for gods sake change the stupid gun control laws they don t work

anyway Toronto is proof of that let decent people arm themselves that alone will reduce crime, would you do a home invasion when you know most of the community is armed??.... probably not!

GO HARPER GO!!

I second the motion

[Joesixpack5]

I thought the thread title was a joke until I read joe. Another kool aid drinking leftwinger. I think they are in a pretty sour mood these days with the latest polls showing the Tories gaining.

Right-Wing Maniacs love corporate greed, persecution, torture and war.

[Joesixpack5]

Clearly Joe is infatuated with George Bush. It seems that the Left that always plays the anti-american card, doesn't have a real issue to hammer the Conservatives with. As usual they can run against an unpopular FORIEGN leader, like that has something to do with the price of rice in China. One thing for sure, nobody is going to compare Dion with any Leader, foriegn or domestic.

Typical moronic right-wing maniac - assumes that any anti-Bush administration view is automatically an anti-American view. Make a strong distinction, you twits.

80% of Americans think the US is on the wrong track under Bush-Wacko. Are they anti-American ? No, they are PRO-American because they are harshly criticizing the police state Fascist, his authoritarian corporate-military-prison agenda, and his policies of war, persecution, torture and greed. CEO's have thrived under Bush, while the bottom 2/3rd's of the American population has economically suffered, and the US now has the highest incarceration rate on earth and rampant child poverty. 5000 dead soldiers and 100's of 1000's of innocent dead Middle Eastern civilians.

... the right-wing has such lame arguments.

Edited September 14, 2008 by Joesixpack5

[wulf42]

Right-Wing Maniacs love corporate greed, persecution, torture and war.

And Liberal Maniacs love letting killers go free and terrorists operate freely within our borders god forbid we may offend them and our military go to crap....we can t even call a Christmas tree a Christmas tree as far as the Liberals are concerned...lol

[Joesixpack5]

Well i for one support Stephen Harper...This Country has been to soft on crime including young offenders who literally get away with murder we need to be more like Texas!! commit a serious crime down there and see what happens to ya!! and the military hasn t been given decent equipment under the Liberals for way too long and its time for a full pledged Tory Goverment! In a world full of terrorists trying to destroy the west and a crime rate going through the roof there is no place for a Liberal Goverment!!...With any luck Harper will scrap the idiotic gun registry..under the Libs the only people who should have a gun is the bad guys...taking guns from responible gun owners makes no sense...its time to make this country strong Militarily..Justice System..and for gods sake change the stupid gun control laws they don t work

anyway, Toronto is proof of that!!... let decent people arm themselves that alone will reduce crime, would you do a home invasion when you know most of the community is armed??.... probably not!

GO HARPER GO!!

The aggressive, preemptive war mentality (Iraq-Smashing) BREEDS terrorists in the Middle East because it occupies their land and kills 1000's of innocent civilians while inefficiently targetting the "bad guys". Rampant killing fuels an overall CLIMATE of killing.

The death penalty states have the highest homicide rates. Canada, Japan, Britain, Ireland, France, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Belgium, Spain and Portugal all have MUCH tougher gun laws than the US and MUCH lower homicide rates !!!! Go figure !!!!! Also, they have no death penalty !!!!!

Republican policy leads to mass death... guess they aren't the pro-life party, after all !!!!

Edited September 14, 2008 by Joesixpack5

[Joesixpack5]

And Liberal Maniacs love letting killers go free and terrorists operate freely within our borders god forbid we may offend them and our military go to crap....we can t even call a Christmas tree a Christmas tree as far as the Liberals are concerned...lol

Canada, Britain, Ireland, France, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Belgium, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Spain and Portugal are all more Liberal than the US and have FAR lower homicide rates, FAR lower poverty rates, FAR lower incarceration rates and are no where near as predisposed towards nation smashing / civilian killing.

Liberals are pro-life, Republicans are pro-death.

Edited September 14, 2008 by Joesixpack5

[Joesixpack5]

Well i for one support Stephen Harper...This Country has been to soft on crime including young offenders who literally get away with murder we need to be more like Texas!! commit a serious crime down there and see what happens to ya!! and the military hasn t been given decent equipment under the Liberals for way too long and its time for a full pledged Tory Goverment! In a world full of terrorists trying to destroy the west and a crime rate going through the roof there is no place for a Liberal Goverment!!...With any luck Harper will scrap the idiotic gun registry..under the Libs the only people who should have a gun is the bad guys...taking guns from responible gun owners makes no sense...its time to make this country strong Militarily..Justice System..and for gods sake change the stupid gun control laws they don t work

anyway, Toronto is proof of that!!... let decent people arm themselves that alone will reduce crime, would you do a home invasion when you know most of the community is armed??.... probably not!

GO HARPER GO!!

Dumb, Deaf, blind, dogmatic, ignorant Neo-Con maniacs.

Canada, Japan, Britain, Ireland, France, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Belgium, Australia, New Zealand, Spain and Portugal all have FAR more gun contol and ALL HAVE MUCH LOWER HOMICIDE RATES AND MUCH LOWER INCARCERATION RATES.

The hardline, Fascist, puritanical Republican approach CREATES MORE VIOLENT CRIME AND DEATH.

Edited September 14, 2008 by Joesixpack5

[Argus]

Stephen Harper is just like George Bush, you blind right-wing morons/maniacs.

Go way kid. There's too many grownups here for you to be welcome. Even the ones that don't like Harper are just laughing at you.

[Joesixpack5]

Go way kid. There's too many grownups here for you to be welcome. Even the ones that don't like Harper are just laughing at you.

Then provide an instant where Bush-Bot Harper has criticized or opposed a Bush policy or action.

You can't, because a Neo-Con is a Neo-Con.

Edited September 14, 2008 by Joesixpack5

[Argus]

Then provide an instant where Bush-Bot Harper has criticized or opposed a Bush policy or action.

You can't, because a Neo-Con is a Neo-Con.

Shooo! Go play! Stop bothering the grownups!

[wulf42]

The aggressive, preemptive war mentality (Iraq-Smashing) BREEDS terrorists in the Middle East because it occupies their land and kills 1000's of innocent civilians while inefficiently targetting the "bad guys". Rampant killing fuels an overall CLIMATE of killing.

That is because the bad guys hide behind innocent civillians so Nato will hit them.........!! Shows what kind of scum we are dealing with!!

[TomS]

Typical moronic right-wing maniac - assumes that any anti-Bush administration view is automatically an anti-American view. Make a strong distinction, you twits.

80% of Americans think the US is on the wrong track under Bush-Wacko. Are they anti-American ? No, they are PRO-American because they are harshly criticizing the police state Fascist, his authoritarian corporate-military-prison agenda, and his policies of war, persecution, torture and greed. CEO's have thrived under Bush, while the bottom 2/3rd's of the American population has economically suffered, and the US now has the highest incarceration rate on earth and rampant child poverty. 5000 dead soldiers and 100's of 1000's of innocent dead Middle Eastern civilians.

... the right-wing has such lame arguments.

I really enjoy your intelligent debate technique. Your skillfull use of the words " moronic, maniac, and twits, is to be admired. Maybe you should write a book.

[Joesixpack5]

Shooo! Go play! Stop bothering the grownups!

Are blind, repressive Neo-Cons really so intellectually mature ? Equipped with their dogma, blindfold, earplugs ? Lol.

[Argus]

I really enjoy your intelligent debate technique. Your skillfull use of the words " moronic, maniac, and twits, is to be admired. Maybe you should write a book.

First he needs to read one.

[Joesixpack5]

That is because the bad guys hide behind innocent civillians so Nato will hit them.........!! Shows what kind of scum we are dealing with!!

But tolerating the innocent civilian deaths as part of the "bad guy targetting" process, simply results in mass orphanization and inevitable resentment from the family members who remain. This serves as FUEL for more Terrorist recruitment.

Try to look at it pragmatically, and not dogmatically.

[Joesixpack5]

I really enjoy your intelligent debate technique. Your skillfull use of the words " moronic, maniac, and twits, is to be admired. Maybe you should write a book.

Maybe you should stop ignoring the empirical facts of human reality.

[Joesixpack5]

First he needs to read one.

You want me to read a Neo-Con slogan pamphlet - a prominent work of fiction.

[Argus]

You want me to read a Neo-Con slogan pamphlet - a prominent work of fiction.

I want you to read something that doesn't include cartoons. You know, a book? Those are the things your teachers keep nagging you to open when all you want to do is play video games.

[Joesixpack5]

I want you to read something that doesn't include cartoons. You know, a book? Those are the things your teachers keep nagging you to open when all you want to do is play video games.

Stop sucking on the Neo-Con lollipop.

[Argus]

Stop sucking on the Neo-Con lollipop.

You know, it's good that someone so obviously young has an interest in politics. Why don't you just shut up and read a little and maybe you'll learn something. All you're doing now is sounding like a nitwit. Even the Liberals are laughing at you.

[Jerry J. Fortin]

The Conservative partisan effort deserves far more credit that it has in the past. However, having said that the Liberals have received far more credit than they deserve. In addition the far right and the far left serve their purposes as well and yet very few citizens recognize the most harsh reality of the nation in political terms. That is the cold reality that our system of government is itself flawed and antiquated.

What this nation needs is not more policy but a means of effective government. There lays our greatest problem. Confederation is a complex government model that fails to balance the needs of the regions with the needs of the citizens. The partisan platforms all seek to nitpick policy alternatives for the duration of the election and yet upon a public declaration of support those same partisan positions have no obligation to implement the policies they campaigned on. Further to that the public has no means available to hold those responsible for the fraud to be held in any way accountable. So the question needs to be asked what difference alternative policies really have during election campaigns?

The problem before us is not one of merely choosing a government to implement policy but determining a means of attaining a responsible and effective set of public representatives. This plays into the trust factor of candidates and parties. Citizens deserve a set of representatives dedicated to the reform of government. Citizens need a government intent upon providing the services and programs that the public desires. Citizens need a government that is accountable to the public and acts in a manner that would be considered obedient to the will of the public.

The long and the short of the problem is that citizens need representatives to be sent to Ottawa not partisan hacks.

[charter.rights]

You know, it's good that someone so obviously young has an interest in politics. Why don't you just shut up and read a little and maybe you'll learn something. All you're doing now is sounding like a nitwit. Even the Liberals are laughing at you.

Why don't you just shut up and read a little and maybe you'll learn something.

Rather than act like a little kid taking his ball and running home, why not try to exemplify the type discussion you prefer, rather than engage in mindless child-like banter?

"If you aren't part of the solution, then you are part of the problem".

[charter.rights]

The Conservative partisan effort deserves far more credit that it has in the past. However, having said that the Liberals have received far more credit than they deserve. In addition the far right and the far left serve their purposes as well and yet very few citizens recognize the most harsh reality of the nation in political terms. That is the cold reality that our system of government is itself flawed and antiquated.

What this nation needs is not more policy but a means of effective government. There lays our greatest problem. Confederation is a complex government model that fails to balance the needs of the regions with the needs of the citizens. The partisan platforms all seek to nitpick policy alternatives for the duration of the election and yet upon a public declaration of support those same partisan positions have no obligation to implement the policies they campaigned on. Further to that the public has no means available to hold those responsible for the fraud to be held in any way accountable. So the question needs to be asked what difference alternative policies really have during election campaigns?

The problem before us is not one of merely choosing a government to implement policy but determining a means of attaining a responsible and effective set of public representatives. This plays into the trust factor of candidates and parties. Citizens deserve a set of representatives dedicated to the reform of government. Citizens need a government intent upon providing the services and programs that the public desires. Citizens need a government that is accountable to the public and acts in a manner that would be considered obedient to the will of the public.

The long and the short of the problem is that citizens need representatives to be sent to Ottawa not partisan hacks.

In an idealistic world that would be achievable. However, in our reality, in our system, the system itself is inherently corrupt. It isn't even salvageable as many a politician has promised reforms - promised open and accountable government. The reality is that this last promise by the Conservative Party of Canada produced the most secretive government in the history of Canada AND their leader refuses to be accountable for the cheating they did to get elected the last time. It isn't so much that we need change, we just need more people than a party of one, leading the government. Even when the system is corrupt and being involves corrupts those with good intentions there will always be the possibility that one or two will spill the beans. However, when there is only one man - the Prime Minister - calling the shots and all the rest are told to shut up and just be counted, then corruption reigns.

Absolute rule means absolute corruption.

(.....and I'm sure that if we heard what the REAL Conservatives across this country thought, that even card-carrying members would cringe. That's why Stephen Harper works in a dictatorship.)

Edited September 14, 2008 by charter.rights

[DrGreenthumb]

Why don't you just shut up and read a little and maybe you'll learn something.

Rather than act like a little kid taking his ball and running home, why not try to exemplify the type discussion you prefer, rather than engage in mindless child-like banter?

"If you aren't part of the solution, then you are part of the problem".

Yeah Argus accusing someone of behaving childishly is pretty funny. Even though Joesixpack's delivery might be kind of blunt the message he brings isn't far from the truth at all. Most of what he says is true, The far right wing agenda is leaning heavily towards a police state, where the federal government is taking more control over our lives and leaving us with less and less freedom. No matter how stupid people like Argus may think Joesixpack sounds, he is obviously not voting Conservative and that alone puts him far ahead of Argus in the intelligence department.

[Moonbox]

Yeah Argus accusing someone of behaving childishly is pretty funny. Even though Joesixpack's delivery might be kind of blunt the message he brings isn't far from the truth at all. Most of what he says is true, The far right wing agenda is leaning heavily towards a police state, where the federal government is taking more control over our lives and leaving us with less and less freedom. No matter how stupid people like Argus may think Joesixpack sounds, he is obviously not voting Conservative and that alone puts him far ahead of Argus in the intelligence department.

OH WOW LOOK! How am I not surprised that Dr Greenthumb agrees with Sixpackjoe?

I will have to say this though:

Nothing you have posted, however ignorant, can even compare to the slop Joe here has presented. There are a lot of anti-conservative posters on this board. Jdobbin, Marksman and many others I have argued with have always been able to carry on a discussion from the other point of view. Where they would provoke intelligent and reasoned responses from posters, you and Joe here will only continue to get smirks and guffaws and maybe even a little pity because your best attempt at a reasoned and intelligent argument could get dismantled by a pre-teen.