PoliticalCitizen Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Yet another who doesn't have a clue as to the actual history of that conflict. No one nation "won" WWII, it was a collective effort of the Allies that defeated the Axis. Russia most certainly did not "win" WWII. Won with the help of the Allies, to be politically correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusThermopyle Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Won with the help of the Allies, to be politically correct Actually, to be factually correct it should read, the Allies won with some help from the Russians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliticalCitizen Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Actually, to be factually correct it should read, the Allies won with some help from the Russians. Of course. Both are true, depending which side you were on. Now I wonder: Did the Germans gain anything at all (other than experience)? Were the Third Reich moneys ever found? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Of course. Both are true, depending which side you were on.Now I wonder: Did the Germans gain anything at all (other than experience)? Were the Third Reich moneys ever found? There are Canadian corporations that were established with Third Reich lucre. As for anglo saxonage (German-Danish) ...they still thrive...look at the keepers of most American corporations - Germanics that still hold National Socialism dear - Hate to break it to you but the Nazis did win the war - They took all of Europe as planned (EU) - just took longer than expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 I was trying to be argumentative and did not really mean it.Everyone deserves a trial. The way Anatoly Scharansky got one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliticalCitizen Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 The way Anatoly Scharansky got one? Not sure who this guy would be, but I didn't say everybody GETS a trial, just deserves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Not sure who this guy would be, but I didn't say everybody GETS a trial, just deserves...A Jewish person who suffered quite profoundly before finally getting to Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliticalCitizen Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 A Jewish person who suffered quite profoundly before finally getting to Israel. I'm sure that hasn't happened now, as the relations between Russia and Israel appear to be quite warm - they've just introduced an no-visa entry system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brezhnev Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 (edited) Greetings! I here esteemed your forum and is shocked! I live in Russia! Will pleasantly get acquainted))) You here speak about Russia as about a mad bear with a nuclear cudgel! However the USA possesses a cudgel more powerfully than at Russia! Edited September 22, 2008 by Brezhnev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brezhnev Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 (edited) Actually, to be factually correct it should read, the Allies won with some help from the Russians. Edited September 22, 2008 by Brezhnev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brezhnev Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 .....Your employer Vladimir Putin is true fascist and Hague Court will be surely suitable place for him in the nearest future, IMO.4. Fascist Putin tries to kill Russian nationalist Belyaev. I wish Mr. Belyaev good health and strength in his fight against the oppressive police regime in Russia for the Russian democratic state. Putin's regime is not just a threat to Russians. It's the threat to whole civilized world. Everyone in the West could see it now. Except you. No wonder. You serve this evil. .... Live behind ocean and argue on Russia as about banana republic! I live in Russia and I write to you from Russia! Ask me! As I here live! I think you till now believe, that on the Russian cities bears)))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 (edited) Greetings! I here esteemed your forum and is shocked! I live in Russia! Will pleasantly get acquainted)))You here speak about Russia as about a mad bear with a nuclear cudgel! However the USA possesses a cudgel more powerfully than at Russia! No offence Lenny (can I call you that given your forum name?) but Breszhnev aint exactly a name that oh shall we say brings back memories of a warm, friendly, cuddly peace loving kind of guy. I do remember someone with that name who had a very big fat head and very large eye-brows and who relished invading nations not to mention running a brutal police state. Why not pick a real peaceful name like oh I don't know, say...Stalin... Now look how do I explain this, trying to assure us Vlad is not Vlad the Impaler but Vlad the next coming of Ghandi, let's just say, no it won't work. Don't forget we are a society that worships Paris Hilton precisely because we understand what it means to suck and blow at the same time. Give us some credit here in the West for at least that. Regards, Nikita Kruschev, no wait, Leon Trotsky, no wait, Vlad I. Lenin, no wait, Yuri Andropov. Edited September 22, 2008 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brezhnev Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 No offence Lenny (can I call you that given your forum name?) but Breszhnev aint exactly a name that oh shall we say brings back memories of a warm, friendly, cuddly peace loving kind of guy. I do remember someone with that name who had a very big fat head and very large eye-brows and who relished invading nations not to mention running a brutal police state. Why not pick a real peaceful name like oh I don't know, say...Stalin...Now look how do I explain this, trying to assure us Vlad is not Vlad the Impaler but Vlad the next coming of Ghandi, let's just say, no it won't work. Don't forget we are a society that worships Paris Hilton precisely because we understand what it means to suck and blow at the same time. Give us some credit here in the West for at least that. Regards, Nikita Kruschev, no wait, Leon Trotsky, no wait, Vlad I. Lenin, no wait, Yuri Andropov. Brezhnev it only a name and anything except a name! This my present name! Why I owe it will hesitate and to put on a mask of lack of individuality? Stalin have recollected? Bush! Has intruded in Iraq and Afghanistan! Bush is terminator! And MacCein is Betman! Anything personal! If have taken offence, I am sorry! An associative array similar to yours! I am am amazed with your fear in the face of Russia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 No offence Lenny (can I call you that given your forum name?) but Breszhnev aint exactly a name that oh shall we say brings back memories of a warm, friendly, cuddly peace loving kind of guy. I do remember someone with that name who had a very big fat head and very large eye-brows and who relished invading nations not to mention running a brutal police state. Why not pick a real peaceful name like oh I don't know, say...Stalin... I guess that sucks for people names Saddam, or Hussein (like Barack Hussein Obama), or anyone with the last name of Hitler ..... Kind of shows a preprejudice on your part. A name is a name. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Brezhnev it only a name and anything except a name! This my present name! Why I owe it will hesitate and to put on a mask of lack of individuality?Stalin have recollected? Bush! Has intruded in Iraq and Afghanistan! Bush is terminator! And MacCein is Betman! Anything personal! If have taken offence, I am sorry! An associative array similar to yours! I am am amazed with your fear in the face of Russia! Betman you mean Gary Betman, NHL Commissioner? If you do realize he is considered an infidel in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 I guess that sucks for people names Saddam, or Hussein (like Barack Hussein Obama), or anyone with the last name of Hitler ..... Kind of shows a preprejudice on your part. A name is a name. That is all. Me have a preprejudice? Moi? Mr. Hugs and Kisses To All? Of course. Breshnev will do it. So would Hitler, Saddam, or Hussein if someone chose those as forum names. Oh call me silly that way. Regards, Attila. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brezhnev Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Theme about Russia. Then allow to be curious misters at you. What do you know about Russia? That that shows you (a black box) the TV? You argue on Russia as about the great villain who needs to be punished..... Who has granted to you the right to argue from a position of the judge? So you know about Russia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brezhnev Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 (edited) Betman you mean Gary Betman, NHL Commissioner? If you do realize he is considered an infidel in Canada. Batman - the hero from comics! Was mistaken in a writing a little.... Edited September 23, 2008 by Brezhnev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Theme about Russia. Then allow to be curious misters at you. What do you know about Russia? That that shows you (a black box) the TV? You argue on Russia as about the great villain who needs to be punished..... Who has granted to you the right to argue from a position of the judge? So you know about Russia? I don't think Russian people are villains. I differentiate people from their politicians and governments. Do I think Russia should be punished? No I am not a dominatrix. Not into spandex and mouthpieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Batman - the hero from comics! Was mistaken in a writing a little.... Batman. Yes I see a theme emerging. I prefer the Phantom Stranger or Elastic Man (figure that last one out). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brezhnev Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) Rue. All right, you do not like foreign policy of Russia. You do not like a management of Russia. Well.... Start up will be so! The interesting fact. Approximately 75 % of the population of Russia approve a policy of the state! It is the big indicator! Thereby the people have chosen the person which will represent interests of the nation on foreign policy arena! In the West many the formed, remarkable people also do not doubt, that you one of them! I do not wish anybody to offend! But in a reality..... In Russia laugh at a management of the USA! The power has silly people! Silly people who represent interests of the whole people.... In recent history of Russia there were people which sang songs and arranged drunk dances on TV. And it was necessary to operate the country on the threshold of crisis. As a result Russia has been involved in war on caucasus! I hope that these times have passed for ever. The West has faced the same problem. When one fool moves economy to crash and movable by thirst of the power and a profit unties wars. I wish you will get rid of fools! Yours faithfully! Edited September 23, 2008 by Brezhnev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulf42 Posted September 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 (edited) Theme about Russia. Then allow to be curious misters at you. What do you know about Russia? That that shows you (a black box) the TV? You argue on Russia as about the great villain who needs to be punished..... Who has granted to you the right to argue from a position of the judge? So you know about Russia? Welcome...................its good to have your insight to our topic......but what are people to think in the West, Your Generals threatened to Nuke Poland just a few months ago....of course we will considered that a threat and we have to be ready for that nobody wants war with Russia ...but what Russia did in Georgia and threats they are making lately and helping terrorist nations like Iran and Syria not to mention that freak in Venezuela Chavez .....the West is starting to look at Russia like the old Bear that it was in the cold war and America is starting to wonder if it should point its ICBM'S back at Russia once again! Edited September 27, 2008 by wulf42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brezhnev Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Welcome...................its good to have your insight to our topic......but what are people to think in the West, Your Generals threatened to Nuke Poland just a few months ago....of course we will considered that a threat and we have to be ready for that nobody wants war with Russia ...but what Russia did in Georgia and threats they are making lately and helping terrorist nations like Iran and Syria not to mention that freak in Venezuela Chavez .....the West is starting to look at Russia like the old Bear that it was in the cold war and America is starting to wonder if it should point its ICBM'S back at Russia once again! You wondered what for Georgia has destroyed by bombing Tskhinvali? A genocide! Russia easy could not look at it! And here that does the USA in Iraq and Afghanistan? The USA has intruded in the sovereign countries and has cast into poverty these people! In days of the Caribbean crisis.... If you remember history.... The USSR has placed the rockets on Cuba! In the answer of the USA were ready to begin war! Now the USA with borders of Russia has placed the rockets! Why Russia should look at it easy? P.S.: you believe till now, what the one Arab in mountains, has made on September, 11th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brezhnev Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 .... and we have to be ready for that nobody wants war with Russia ... And you believe that Russia wants war? NO! To me it is terrible from thought, that the USA has done in the world! You have lost the democracy!!!!!! http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=LbfA7s2oGZg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulf42 Posted September 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 In days of the Caribbean crisis.... If you remember history.... The USSR has placed the rockets on Cuba! In the answer of the USA were ready to begin war!Now the USA with borders of Russia has placed the rockets! Why Russia should look at it easy? P.S.: you believe till now, what the one Arab in mountains, has made on September, 11th? I understand your point about the Cuban Missile Crisis............but those were Nuclear Missiles that Russia was installing in Cuba...and they were fully intended to use as a first strike weapon on the USA...........the situation in Poland is totally different....those missile's that the USA is installing are simply anti missle rockets with a small warhead designed to take out the odd Missile coming from Iran or Syria...those freaks would not hesitate to launch a nuclear missile and they are Americas true enemy so America has to be ready to deal with them....the rockets are not Nuclear and there is only going to be 10 of them...certainly not a threat to Russia in any way.....Yet Russia is talking about rearming with new subs new Nuclear weapons......and if Russia does that ....the USA will absolutely start considering Russia the enemy again and will start building newer and deadlier weapons to use on Russia...and nobody wants that! I am not sure what you meant about the Arab in the mountains.... i think you mean Bin Laden??....if so i am not sure why the USA hasn t killed that filthy animal yet with.... all the technology the USA has i figured they would have nailed him long ago....but i have my own theories about the 9/11 thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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