Devout Muslim Woman Denied French Citizenship

[Oleg Bach]

It must be difficult for you to bear the winters here in Canada with all those people covering their faces, showing how hostile they are to your value system.

A clash of two extreme sets of values. One a covered face - and the other a pair of exposed colegen puffed up libs smeared with tons of lip gloss that appear no longer to be a mouth but an inviting vagina.

[JB Globe]

The problem is the culture of muslims - immigrants - is to do what they're told by the men in their lives,

This of course, is an extreme generalization of your own creation, and not an objective fact, hence why no one cares that you want the following:

which is why I want as few of them here as possible. And the same goes for their men.

You cannot expect anyone to support a policy idea of yours if you can't prove that policy is necessary with objective information.

[Oleg Bach]

Muslim woman are told what to do by their men ---- what a stero-typical bunch of crap... Out in the far east side of town I saw this large lady in a full berka... she walked behind the men - a small group - suddenly a cell phone goes off ....the lead guy takes the phone and rushes it to the lady in black and she starts to bark out commands like a damned general - The males wait in anticipation for instructions...She clicks the phone shut and hands it back the royal bearer of the phone and the woman goes back to being quiet and demure --------------------------sure looked like she owned the place and was in control of the whole clan - Woman are the same in all religions and cultures - some are dominant and some submissive....don't tell me you have not seen a western woman that was the BOSS>

[kimmy]

It must be difficult for you to bear the winters here in Canada with all those people covering their faces, showing how hostile they are to your value system.

Do you really want to liken a niqab to a balaclava or a scarf?

If it's summer, and you see someone wearing a balaclava, what's your first assumption?

If you're inside a bank or a shopping mall and you see someone wearing a balaclava, what's your first assumption?

If you're suggesting a niqab is no different from a balaclava, do you think people should come to the same assumptions when they see someone in a niqab?

Have you heard of anyone suggesting that their Canadian culture demands they be allowed to wear their toque and scarf when they pose for their passport photos or testify in court?

If you'd like us to view niqabs, hijabs, chadors, or whatever the hell all that stuff is, in the same way we view Canadian winter headcoverings, well, here it is: Canadian winter headcoverings are removed for passport photos, and drivers licenses, and at polling stations, and in court, and at the customs gate, and any time personal identification is required, and any time it's inconvenient to have your face covered.

-k

[jbg]

Do you really want to liken a niqab to a balaclava or a scarf?

If it's summer, and you see someone wearing a balaclava, what's your first assumption?

Since this garb is not really traditional Islamic garb but is of more recent vintage, I assume that the people wearing it are in fear of their husbands or have a deep-seated hostility to the world they have chosen to live in.

[Molly]

Soooo... let's hear your thumbnail analysis of the motives of Hutterites for THEIR mode of dress.

Then we can move on to the analysis of the wearing of habits by various Christian nuns....

(who aren't, I don't believe, required to remove them for passport photos, drivers licenses, etc.)

[cybercoma]

Right or wrong, it's a nation's prerogative to deny whomever they choose citizenship. If a country wants to create cultural or ethnic homogeneity within its borders, no country from the outside should threaten a nation's sovereignty by telling them not to.

Edited March 21, 2009 by cybercoma