Smear tactics in Ottawa

[Fortunata]

Mocking the Jewish faith and completely ignoring the anti-semitism in your post is offensive to many.

That your buddy dobbin belittled the concerns, and attempted to make a joke of it proves the point that the left's ingrained problems with Jews and Judaism is quite disturbing.

C'mon MB, you missed something and the cover up is not working. It's just digging you deeper. Move along now.

[guyser]

Defend the anti-semitism of the left all you want. Has the left completely disavowed the principles of fairness and freedom of religion? The continuing defence of the indefensible makes it clear that these left wing posters have.

Now your contempt shows itself. Who else on these boards has a "Jewish sounding name". Would you like to mandate that posters be identified in a certain manner. Something like the Star of David on the coats during the pogroms in WWII?

The poster whose name cannot be spoken? Right outta Harry Potter. Good on ya dobbin. Learn from the masters.

This must be embarassing for you. You dont get a joke, go off the deep end about semitism when it clearly wasnt and yet keep trying to smear.

MB, ya gots pantsed. Save your red face any further emabarassment and move along.

The only behaviour crossing the line is shakey's thinly veiled contempt for Israel and Judaism.

PB, even for you this is embarassing.

[Michael Bluth]

This must be embarassing for you. You dont get a joke, go off the deep end about semitism when it clearly wasnt and yet keep trying to smear.

Strange how all the left wing responses have been to defend the anti-semitism and/or included thinly veiled anti-semitic responses.

tsk tsk tsk, at one time the left truly did stand up for the ideals of freedom of religion and respect for all people

[guyser]

Oh my, more embarassment.

Strange how all the left wing responses have been to defend the anti-semitism and/or included thinly veiled anti-semitic responses.

Nope, none of that in any response in this thread. Go ahead, make up more bs if you wish. It is a pattern we have seen before.

tsk tsk tsk, at one time the left truly did stand up for the ideals of freedom of religion and respect for all people

Still do.

Some stand up against lies and bs......and we did.

Ask ricki bobbi, bet he remembers.

[Michael Bluth]

Nope, none of that in any response in this thread. Go ahead, make up more bs if you wish. It is a pattern we have seen before.

Laughing at 'Jewish sounding names'.

I always thought Shakey was a Jewish sounding name. heh

What's next to laugh at?

If you can't recognize the anti-semitism don't compound the ignorance by trying to argue it isn't there.

[jdobbin]

C'mon MB, you missed something and the cover up is not working. It's just digging you deeper. Move along now.

The behaviour is more than offensive, it is libelous. lol

[jdobbin]

This must be embarassing for you. You dont get a joke, go off the deep end about semitism when it clearly wasnt and yet keep trying to smear.

I sense an implosion of biblical proportions for that comment.

There is no support for antisemitism. It is just a smear from the Tory talking points page.

[guyser]

I sense an implosion of biblical proportions for that comment.

There is no support for antisemitism. It is just a smear from the Tory talking points page.

Let it go.

In a topic about smear tactics we can see who got the instructional memo.

Its gone from funny to embarassing to desperate.

[jdobbin]

Some stand up against lies and bs......and we did.

The Tory smears now seem to be directed at themselves now.

Here is what Tory insiders are saying about some of their own.

http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/cover_inde...ernier/&c=1

"The talk is that Maxime is going to end up at something fun and more at his level, like Revenue," one Conservative insider told The Hill Times last week, referring to the National Revenue portfolio, where former Defence minister Gordon O'Connor (Carleton-Mississippi Mills, Ont.) was moved in August 2007.

"As a stand-alone issue, it's stupid," the insider said of the controversy over Ms. Couillard's apparent security risk to Mr. Bernier, but when it is added to a list of Mr. Bernier's (Beauce, Que.) recent gaffes, it is another story. "The problem that Max has is that—this may not be the straw that breaks the camel's back—but there's getting to be a lot of straw on the camel. It's like, 'Oh, again.'"

Another Conservative source agreed, saying that the talk among Conservatives is that Mr. Bernier is likely to be shuffled in the next Cabinet shakeup, perhaps in the summer or fall. "I think if there's a summer shuffle, he's definitely at or near the top of the list."

Edited May 22, 2008 by jdobbin

[jdobbin]

Its gone from funny to embarassing to desperate.

Ah, very true.

Thankfully I miss a lot of these posts when no one replies to them. I found it rather funny at first but I'm sure that even some of the posters on the right are becoming embarrassed by it.

[Michael Bluth]

The behaviour is more than offensive, it is libelous. lol

Laughing again at offence being taken to your comments? Is anti-semitism that humourous to you?

Thankfully I miss a lot of these posts when no one replies to them. I found it rather funny at first but I'm sure that even some of the posters on the right are becoming embarrassed by it.

That's right. You don't read my posts .... except when you do.

Here's a hint to keep up that fantasy. Remember you can read any poster when quoted by another poster. You sorta lost track of that one a few posts back.

After this comment:

I always thought Shakey was a Jewish sounding name. heh

you've now laughed twice at a very serious topic. What's the next aspect of Jews or Judaism you are going to laugh off?

Edited May 22, 2008 by Michael Bluth

[jdobbin]

One only has to look at the way the rest of Harper's Govt. has been run to know, without a doubt, anything that is going to be done has been cleared through the PM's office the same way as even a simple press release by an MP has been.

For him to be so controlling over every aspect of this govt. and and his party, and then to say he had no idea what was going on in regards to an offer that carried the ballance of the most important HoC vote to date in his life, is simply absurd.

I agree that they don't let any MP make a speech that isn't written for them. Jane Taber wrote recently that two Tory MPs read identical speeches prepared for them. Apparently, someone made a mistake and gave them the same speech which they read 30 minutes apart.

Edited May 23, 2008 by jdobbin

[Wild Bill]

I agree that they don't let any MP make a speech that isn't written for them. Jane Taber wrote recently that two Tory MPs read identical speeches prepared for them. Apparently, someone made a mistake and gave them the same speech which they read 30 minutes apart.

Geez, and we used to call Liberal backbenchers "trained seals".

[Shakeyhands]

Ah, very true.

Thankfully I miss a lot of these posts when no one replies to them. I found it rather funny at first but I'm sure that even some of the posters on the right are becoming embarrassed by it.

from what I have seen and heard, I'd be embarrased if I were him. I wonder if its too late for him to say "April Fools!!!!"

Probably should give him a break now. It's no big deal.

Edited May 23, 2008 by Shakeyhands

[Michael Bluth]

from what I have seen and heard, I'd be embarrased if I were him. I wonder if its too late for him to say "April Fools!!!!"

Probably should give him a break now. It's no big deal.

I will never be embarrassed for standing up to anti-semitism.

Of course you don't think it's a big deal. Sympathizing with dobbin as he laughs at Jewish names. I guess is a laughing matter to the left.

I question the hypocrisy of those on the left who make light of Judaism and "Jewish Names" yet, rightly tut tut John McCain and the horrible comments made by Reverend John Hagee. Link

I implore you to think of the harm your obstinance is causing.

[Who's Doing What?]

And it didn't occur to you that the front and centre mention of "Steve" by "friend" Olmert wasn't a little humorous in the context of your railing about the use of that name? Or, heck, if you couldn't figure that one out, that there was just some other joke involved that you hadn't picked up?

The only conceivable interpretation the squirrel on that squeaky little treadmill could crank out was that Shakeyhands is a frickin anti-semite?

:lol:

Impossible to parody.

It was a "Kodak moment" wasn't it?

[Who's Doing What?]

I'm accused of being an anti-semite??????????????????? hahahaha.

Should I expect an apology letter?

Only if you cry and whine to the Mod.

[Who's Doing What?]

Seven posts in an hour. Your attention is appreciated.

Monitoring my posts are you?

When you are done with your analysis please send me a copy, I am always up for a good laugh.

Why the rush to support such virulent opposition to Israel from the representatives of the left on this board?

Hmmmm, I take this to mean, you still don't get it.

Is your hatred for everything to the right of Steph Dion so strong you can't see injustice and do the right thing? Or is the smear really the thing?

Injustice??? Man are you way off the deep end on this one. lmao

[Who's Doing What?]

Mocking the Jewish faith and completely ignoring the anti-semitism in your post is offensive to many.

That your buddy dobbin belittled the concerns, and attempted to make a joke of it proves the point that the left's ingrained problems with Jews and Judaism is quite disturbing.

OY VAY!!!!!

[Who's Doing What?]

I will never be embarrassed for standing up to anti-semitism.

Of course you don't think it's a big deal. Sympathizing with dobbin as he laughs at Jewish names. I guess is a laughing matter to the left.

I question the hypocrisy of those on the left who make light of Judaism and "Jewish Names" yet, rightly tut tut John McCain and the horrible comments made by Reverend John Hagee. Link

I implore you to think of the harm your obstinance is causing.

THERE WAS NO ANTI-SEMITISM

[Who's Doing What?]

I agree that they don't let any MP make a speech that isn't written for them. Jane Taber wrote recently that two Tory MPs read identical speeches prepared for them. Apparently, someone made a mistake and gave them the same speech which they read 30 minutes apart.

Ya this Govt. has gone too far out of it's way to control every last detail for them to now turn around and claim ignorance on something so important.

[Michael Bluth]

OY VAY!!!!!

Five posts in a row? Wow!

It appears the misspelling of oy vey is yet another attack on Judaism by demeaning the proper use of Yiddish. Y'all can't seem to stop with the digs on Jews.

[Charles Anthony]

Everybody,

Stop the childish nonsense.

Please focus your posts on Smear tactics in Ottawa and avoid the personal attacks.

[Michael Bluth]

Everybody,

Stop the childish nonsense.

Please focus your posts on Smear tactics in Ottawa and avoid the personal attacks.

My apologies for anything I may have said in defending Israel and Judaism that may been construed as a personal attack.

[jdobbin]

Geez, and we used to call Liberal backbenchers "trained seals".

It is disappointing that MPs have very little to do except read from scripts.

It is possible that we will see more of those scripted messages.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...y/National/home

Mr. Giorno is an expert in scripting a daily message for government, a role he fulfilled for the federal Conservatives during the 2005-06 campaign. His likely elevation also suggests that the government is preparing the ground for an election campaign.

The change is also reminiscent of a mid-term modification that took place under former prime minister Brian Mulroney, who made a course correction by bringing in a new team led by former civil servant Derek Burney as his chief of staff.

Still, there were mixed feelings on the part of federal Conservatives Thursday about whether the Prime Minister actually feels the need to alter his government's direction – and particularly his communication style.

Mr. Brodie was operating in a disciplined environment – so much so that few members of the party are willing to be quoted when speaking about the party.

“I don't think that all of a sudden the Harper government is going to be the happy hug-me-love-me government,” one Tory said.

And not all are convinced that any change in personnel would be part of a plan to improve messaging.

We have already seen one cabinet change and all we got was a more caustic House of Commons and more secretive government.