Multiculturism is a huge failure

[Qwerty]

That's true. Canadians are free to feel loyalty to a foreign communist governments as they choose.

And I'm free to say they're not really Canadians, and we should stop letting them into the country.

Precisely my point. What good is it to have people in this country who have heart strings for some other far away land?

Is that helping to strengthen the social fabric of this once great nation?

Ponder this....before the 1960's we barred many ethnic groups from coming here to Canada. Many Western Europeans came at that time. We opened the flood gates shortly after that and suddenly no more WU's want to come to Canada anymore? I find that hard to believe. Does Canada have a racist agenda to only let in non WU's to this country?

Now I'm not saying that all Asians, Africans and other ethnics don't contribute something worthwhile to our society as many many do make a strong effort to give back to a nation that rescued them from whatever hell hole they were escaping. And we need those people to go to the various communities and tell there former countrymen that it isn't the end of the world to try out this new home and really embrace it. Tradition is well and good and should be remembered, cherished anhd even practiced on holidays but I don't think some of these people need walk around in the halloween costumes that we see daily.

I'm just saying that WU's seem to more readily and easily integrate in our culture.

[Argus]

Reality and history.

If I am Canadian citizen born and bred, and move to another country, how would you top me from becoming Irish?

back wen my father was a lad, almost every immigrant Canadian was a dual citizen...citizen of canada by choie and a citizen of britain by birth.

There really wasn't much of a difference between the cultural beliefs of the UK and that of Canada.

There is a lot of difference between the cultural beliefs of a lot of today's immigrants and that of Canadians. And the world is smaller, today. They can watch TV from their homelands, read magazines and newspapers from their homelands, talk all the time with relatives, go home repeatedly, have their kids marry people from their homelands, etc. It slows the integration process considerably.

[M.Dancer]

There is a lot of difference between the cultural beliefs of a lot of today's immigrants and that of Canadians.

As succinctly as possible, explain what the cultural beliefs of Canadians are and those of immigrants.

[DogOnPorch]

Reality and history.

If I am Canadian citizen born and bred, and move to another country, how would you top me from becoming Irish?

back wen my father was a lad, almost every immigrant Canadian was a dual citizen...citizen of canada by choie and a citizen of britain by birth.

Some countries do...some don't. I like Germany's idea where you eventually have to give up one or the other passport(s) you might hold. Perhaps Canada should move to a similar system to prevent further Lebanons.

To practise law you have to pass a bar exam...

Heh...I just wanted to hear you say it. I agree with you but this is pissing off the 'skilled' immigrants. There are movements to alter or change the need to prove your credentials.

http://www.notcanada.com/

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You heard about the Chinese godfather? He made them an offer they couldn't understand.

---The Sopranos

[M.Dancer]

Some countries do...some don't. I like Germany's idea where you eventually have to give up one or the other passport(s) you might hold. Perhaps Canada should move to a similar system to prevent further Lebanons.

Heh...I just wanted to hear you say it. I agree with you but this is pissing off the 'skilled' immigrants. There are movements to alter or change the need to prove your credentials.

http://www.notcanada.com/

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You heard about the Chinese godfather? He made them an offer they couldn't understand.

---The Sopranos

Canada does have some screwy red tape.

A woman I know did her undergrad here in Ontario and her medical degree in this 3rd world city where she was born, called Dublin.

When she came back she had already interned and wanted to work in Ontario but found her Dublin accreditaion was not accepted and she would need to go to school here. (I don't remember how long but more than a year....so she applied for a US green card, got a job almost immdiately in Chicago where she lived and worked for about 10 years.

[Leafless]

As succinctly as possible, explain what the cultural beliefs of Canadians are and those of immigrants.

Depends what immigrants you are talking about and as briefly as possible, impossible.

For instance East Asians and Westerners differ in situationism, but not in dispostionism.

Point is, ALL CULTURES ARE DIFFERENT in many ways and to debate this aspect, is beyond the scope of this board.

Edited April 16, 2008 by Leafless

[DogOnPorch]

Canada does have some screwy red tape.

A woman I know did her undergrad here in Ontario and her medical degree in this 3rd world city where she was born, called Dublin.

When she came back she had already interned and wanted to work in Ontario but found her Dublin accreditaion was not accepted and she would need to go to school here. (I don't remember how long but more than a year....so she applied for a US green card, got a job almost immdiately in Chicago where she lived and worked for about 10 years.

Dublin...lol...fair enough. You've convinced me. Release the Somali gynocologists!

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Oh, he doesn't smell like Irish Spring. And he never taught me anything. But still, I slap my chest and sing of my drunken Irish dad...

---Family Guy

[Qwerty]

Depends what immigrants you are talking about and as briefly as possible, impossible.

For instance East Asians and Westerners differ in situationism, but not in dispostionism.

Point is, ALL CULTURES ARE DIFFERENT in many ways and to debate this aspect, is beyond the scope of this board.

Yes all cultures are different, indeed.

That doesn't make all cultures a good fit for Canada.

The sooner the the looney left realizes that the better.

[M.Dancer]

Dublin...lol...fair enough. You've convinced me. Release the Somali gynocologists!

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Oh, he doesn't smell like Irish Spring. And he never taught me anything. But still, I slap my chest and sing of my drunken Irish dad...

---Family Guy

Somali doesn't have a university...

[Argus]

As succinctly as possible, explain what the cultural beliefs of Canadians are and those of immigrants.

We don't insist our women wrap themselves up in sheets so men don't lust after them.

[M.Dancer]

We don't insist our women wrap themselves up in sheets so men don't lust after them.

Is that the best you can do? Notwithstanding the sartorial habits of sicilian women or the wardrobes of catholic nuns, old order Amish and hutterites...why would some one's choice of dress be an issue?

[DogOnPorch]

Somali doesn't have a university...

Sure it does...

http://www.mogadishuuniversity.com/

http://www.amouduniversity.net/

http://www.hargeisauniversity.net/

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To show you how much things have changed for me, one of my greatest missions this year is to convince Rush to support the Republican candidate for President.

---Joe Lieberman

[M.Dancer]

Sure it does...

http://www.mogadishuuniversity.com/

http://www.amouduniversity.net/

http://www.hargeisauniversity.net/

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To show you how much things have changed for me, one of my greatest missions this year is to convince Rush to support the Republican candidate for President.

---Joe Lieberman

Okay..maybe not Somaliland...on the otherhand...maybe I will go back to school and not need a loan...

(a) Tuition Fee per Semester:

$ 250 for students enrolled in the Faculty of Medicine & Surgery.

$ 200 for students enrolled in degree courses other then Law and sharia degree which is $150.

$ 120 for students enrolled in Diploma Programs.

$ 75 diploma in arabic (1 years)

( Registration Fees

$5 non-refundable fee for processing all applications.

$3 Student ID card registration fee.

[Qwerty]

would you want a third world trained doctor giving you a life saving operation?

I think not.

[M.Dancer]

would you want a third world trained doctor giving you a life saving operation?

I think not.

You would rather die?

I think yes.

[DogOnPorch]

Okay..maybe not Somaliland...on the otherhand...maybe I will go back to school and not need a loan...

You can't beat those prices. Reminds me of the 'Baby Doc Duvalier College of Physicians' in Haiti featured in Doonesbury a number of years back.

After his graduation from Walden, Zonker eventually enrolled in "The Baby Doc College of Physicians" (which was run by Uncle Duke; an old family friend). However, he dropped out after winning $23 million from a lottery ticket. Shortly afterward he had to spend most of it on saving Duke from being a zombified slave, but had enough left over to buy a British title (His Lordship the Viscount St. Austell-in-the-Moor Biggleswade-Brixham) and ended up as a live-in nanny for Mike and J.J. Doonesbury (who kicked him out in the early 90's).

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In Palm Springs, they think that homelessness is caused by bad divorce lawyers.

---Doonesbury

[Wilber]

would you want a third world trained doctor giving you a life saving operation?

I think not.

I don't know if India is still considered third world (probably not) but sending people there for surgical procedures is a booming business these days.

[M.Dancer]

I don't know if India is still considered third world (probably not) but sending people there for surgical procedures is a booming business these days.

I bet we in the west import more highly experianced specialists than we export patients.

[guyser]

would you want a third world trained doctor giving you a life saving operation?

I think not.

Thats ok, the next guy just moved up the list then.

Of course I would have no problem with a 3rd world trained doctor. He or she would have been fetted by the 1st world docs, namely the College of Physicians and Surgeons and shown to be competent.

Halloween costumes?... and you claim to speak the truth? Yikes.....why are you so afraid?

[Qwerty]

Thats ok, the next guy just moved up the list then.

Of course I would have no problem with a 3rd world trained doctor. He or she would have been fetted by the 1st world docs, namely the College of Physicians and Surgeons and shown to be competent.

Halloween costumes?... and you claim to speak the truth? Yikes.....why are you so afraid?

Guyser where do you live? What city or area?

[guyser]

I bet we in the west import more highly experianced specialists than we export patients.

They would have to be from the US , UK , AUS , NZ or SA to be able to practice. All others have to jump through so many hoops and catch 22's many find it is not worth it.....and move to the US for certification.

So, this idea some had of 3rd world docs just coming in and practicing is moot. Doesnt happen and cant happen. But we dont want facts clouding this issue do we?

[guyser]

Guyser where do you live? What city or area?

Why? Does it matter ?

[Qwerty]

Why? Does it matter ?

Actually yes it does. It is obvious you live outside the city. How can you possibly comment on things that go on within our city if the only information you get is through the media and not first hand knowledge.

If I lived in a small town where it was 90% white I would think everything was great too. Try living in Toronto where you and I are in the minority, you may see things differently.

[M.Dancer]

It is obvious you live outside the city.

It is obvious that making erroneous assumptions comes easy to you.

[guyser]

It is obvious that making erroneous assumptions comes easy to you.

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