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AngusThermopyle · January 30, 2008

Arone had been in the custody of Matchee and other Airborne paratroopers, and according to court martial testimony the corporal went berserk - savagely punching and kicking Arone, and using cigarillos to burn the teenager even as the Somali pleaded "Canada, Canada, Canada," in a futile bid to halt the three-hour-long torture.

Pte. Kyle Brown was convicted of manslaughter

These are excerpts from the Canadian Encyclopedia. As you can see Brown was convicted of manslaughter, not murder. Matchee never stood trial since he took the cowards way out and (officially) hung himself causing severe damage to the left brain and as such was unfit to stand trial.

The manslaughter charge and conviction were laid as a result of the determination that Brown did not kill Arone, otherwise the charge would have been murder, not manslaughter. Matchee on the other hand was scheduled to stand trial for Murder as it had been determined that he did in fact kill Arone.

As for your cheap shots about myself, you know nothing of me so how can you make such determinations? A little background. I served in Somalia with a small detachment of the RCD, not Airborne. I was TD'd to the RCD as it was not actually my unit. We mostly conducted "shotgun" runs through Mogadishu, delivering food and medical supplies, also on more than one occasion we had to pull NGO's asses out of the fire when they ran into trouble with Aidide's Militia.

We also did escort duty for aid supplies being transported up to Belet Huen as Aidide's men saw these convoys as perfect and rich targets. When food was distributed to the Somali's we stood guard and "actively" discouraged Militia men from slaughtering the men, women and children trying to access those supplies. As I've said before, I witnessed Matchee's behaviour. We had escorted a convoy up to Belet Huen and were unfortunate enough to be there when this disgusting behaviour had taken place. Matchee is a piece of scum I will never forget. I can still hear his boasts about what he had done. Believe me, the day after it occurred he made no efort to share the blame amongst others. He actually boasted about and took credit for these acts. It was shortly after that he changed his tune, when he realised that the vast majority of members were disgusted with him and he was going to be charged in this death.

Now you can dispute these facts all you want but your magical reality changing trick will not alter these facts from what they are.

As for the rest of your hatefull, ignorant comments about the Forces and white people, they are essentially meaningless and only show that you are the greatest practitioner of what you regularly accuse others on this forum of being. As I said before, you should come to terms with the attitude that your comments display and your open encitement to hate. They serve only to diminish you as a person and do not indicate a character that displays any admirable qualities what so ever.

Having said that I think I'll be done with you now. One can not discuss anything with you because obviously if it doesn't suit your agenda you simply deny and ignore it. Thanks for making me truly waste my time on you.

Edited January 30, 2008 by AngusThermopyle

M.Dancer · January 30, 2008

Posit took tgis same tact with the CF. Posit as we remember was an expert on just about everything.....Posit was banned around Dec 6th.

AngusThermopyle · January 30, 2008

Yeah, I noticed that Dancer. Actually I do have to make a correction. Matchee was a Native from Saskatchewan, not New Brunswick. It's been a lot of years and details do grow a little dim with time.

jefferiah · January 30, 2008

Well, you used the word "scripted" earlier.
I agree completely that this was "set up"; I disagree with "scripted".

-k

Yes, and you will notice that in the very next post I rectified that. I said perhaps scripted was not the right word.

Edited January 30, 2008 by jefferiah

guyser · January 30, 2008

Pretty sad that you have to twist it to make it seem like I would "wish" it to happen to a child, any child.

No twisting , just your words. I will grant you that "wish" was not in your post, but you sure felt it necessary to bring in ones child to try and emphasize your post. But, thats to be expected from christians. See it all the time.

Yeah, I guess I could string together a whole line of words to negatively characterize your personality, too--including the "ubiquitous" ignorant/ignorance. Calling someone who doesn't agree with you "ignorant" has to be the most tired and useless debating tactic there is. And considering the fact that you haven't exactly demonstrated that your all that wise and learned, it doesn't exactly serve as much of an insult, either. Well, whatever you decide to call me, I've seen what becomes of people who submit to sin and temptation, people who succumb to pressures of people like you to lower themselves to a baser level for fear of having convictions that make them lead sober, decent and productive lives.

Actually you couldnt, at least not accurately. The things I am ignorant of I dont post in. Such as threads that involve some parts of ancient and military history. Thats the difference between us. Frankly, and judging by other posters comments concerning you, wise and learned coming from you is pretty funny. You are a christian proselytizer, of course you aren't wrong, in your own head.Thats part of the gig.

Funny, havent been drunk in at least 15 years.

jefferiah · January 30, 2008

No twisting , just your words. I will grant you that "wish" was not in your post, but you sure felt it necessary to bring in ones child to try and emphasize your post.

You did twist his words. You, in turn, just used your child to implicate Kengs in something he did not do.

charter.rights · January 30, 2008

These are excerpts from the Canadian Encyclopedia. As you can see Brown was convicted of manslaughter, not murder. Matchee never stood trial since he took the cowards way out and (officially) hung himself causing severe damage to the left brain and as such was unfit to stand trial.
The manslaughter charge and conviction were laid as a result of the determination that Brown did not kill Arone, otherwise the charge would have been murder, not manslaughter. Matchee on the other hand was scheduled to stand trial for Murder as it had been determined that he did in fact kill Arone.

As for your cheap shots about myself, you know nothing of me so how can you make such determinations? A little background. I served in Somalia with a small detachment of the RCD, not Airborne. I was TD'd to the RCD as it was not actually my unit. We mostly conducted "shotgun" runs through Mogadishu, delivering food and medical supplies, also on more than one occasion we had to pull NGO's asses out of the fire when they ran into trouble with Aidide's Militia.

We also did escort duty for aid supplies being transported up to Belet Huen as Aidide's men saw these convoys as perfect and rich targets. When food was distributed to the Somali's we stood guard and "actively" discouraged Militia men from slaughtering the men, women and children trying to access those supplies. As I've said before, I witnessed Matchee's behaviour. We had escorted a convoy up to Belet Huen and were unfortunate enough to be there when this disgusting behaviour had taken place. Matchee is a piece of scum I will never forget. I can still hear his boasts about what he had done. Believe me, the day after it occurred he made no efort to share the blame amongst others. He actually boasted about and took credit for these acts. It was shortly after that he changed his tune, when he realised that the vast majority of members were disgusted with him and he was going to be charged in this death.

Now you can dispute these facts all you want but your magical reality changing trick will not alter these facts from what they are.

As for the rest of your hatefull, ignorant comments about the Forces and white people, they are essentially meaningless and only show that you are the greatest practitioner of what you regularly accuse others on this forum of being. As I said before, you should come to terms with the attitude that your comments display and your open encitement to hate. They serve only to diminish you as a person and do not indicate a character that displays any admirable qualities what so ever.

Having said that I think I'll be done with you now. One can not discuss anything with you because obviously if it doesn't suit your agenda you simply deny and ignore it. Thanks for making me truly waste my time on you.

For all your rationalization, Matchee was NOT convicted because he was unfit for trial. That makes him NOT GUILTY for the time being. However, Kyle Brown WAS CONVICTED of manslaughter. As it stands, Brown is the only one that has been identified as being responsible for Arone's death.

Give it up. There is plenty of evidence you suggest that your darling - the Army - is totally corrupt from command down to the misfits on the bottom. Rapes, murders. buggery, abuse all have taken place within the ranks. That is all that needs to be said. If you don't agree, then perhaps you can provide links to dispute each and every charge. I'm not making them, I'm just reporting them.

Edited January 30, 2008 by charter.rights

M.Dancer · January 30, 2008

Rape in the CAF
More Rape in the Military

Rape amonst the Indians

Hmmm look...I can use google too.....!!!

So if there were more natives in the CF, would there be more rapists and murderers too?

charter.rights · January 30, 2008

Rape amonst the Indians
Hmmm look...I can use google too.....!!!

So if there were more natives in the CF, would there be more rapists and murderers too?

Perhaps. But the majority of crimes are committed by non-natives, regardless of the proportions of native soldiers to non-native soldiers. If I were to fathom a guess at the reasons this is true, I would suggest that natives join because they need a job and the army provides them opportunities for advanced education and training. On the other hand the majority of non-natives join because they are misfits, have extensive psychological problems and no other employers will have them. Although all of this is just speculation based on the anecdotal evidence.

M.Dancer · January 30, 2008

Per capita, natives rape and kill mre than non natives....

geoffrey · January 30, 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCh2FXzD6R4

That's great. Nearly the greatest thing I've ever seen.

charter.rights · January 30, 2008

Per capita, natives rape and kill mre than non natives....

Links please....not that I doubt you or anything since it is just as easy to state that white boys make up 80% of the paedophiles in Canada...

M.Dancer · January 31, 2008

Links please....not that I doubt you or anything since it is just as easy to state that white boys make up 80% of the paedophiles in Canada...

Stewards of the environment....

Healthy Connections: 92% of First Nations people aged 15 and over reported that they had someone to call on for help; 54% of First Nations people aged 15 and over reported being involved in some form of physical activity and social sport; 51% of First Nations people aged 15 and over reported that they participate in traditional Aboriginal activities. (Source: APS, Statistics Canada, 1991)
Children in Care: 4% of First Nations children were in the custody of Child and Family Service (CFS) agencies in 1996/97. (Source: Basic Departmental Data 97 (BDD97), Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development (DIAND), unpublished)

Social problems: 39% of Aboriginal adults reported that family violence is a problem in their community; 25% reported sexual abuse and 15% reported rape as problems. More Inuit report these to be problems in their community (44%, 35% and 25%, respectively). (Source: APS, Statistics Canada, 1991)

Incarceration rates of Aboriginal people are 5-6 times higher than the national average. (Source: Sol Gen, 1995) The highest rates of Aboriginal sentenced admissions are in the NWT (80%), the prairies (50%) and BC (20%). (Source: Sol Gen) In some age categories, for example, youth aged 12-18 in Alberta, Aboriginal offenders are projected to account for 40 % of the admissions. (Source: RCAP)

Urban crime rates for Aboriginal people are 4 ½ times higher than the non-Aboriginal rate in Calgary and 12 times the non-Aboriginal rates in Regina and Saskatoon.

charter.rights · January 31, 2008

Stewards of the environment....

Nice try but you fell short of the standard you had set for yourself to prove:

"Per capita, natives rape and kill mre than non natives...."

There is no argument that natives are 5-6 times more likely to end up in jail. There are inequities in the system and most of crimes are alcohol related or domestic in nature.

Prove your statement...if you ~think~ you can......

M.Dancer · January 31, 2008

Nice try but you fell short of the standard you had set for yourself to prove:
"Per capita, natives rape and kill mre than non natives...."

There is no argument that natives are 5-6 times more likely to end up in jail. There are inequities in the system and most of crimes are alcohol related or domestic in nature.

Prove your statement...if you ~think~ you can......

I was using your standard....which I surpased exceedingly. I failed to see your citations showing the forces are filled with misfits.

Didn't you say you were in the forces?

Anyway, It doesn't take a mathematician to figure out if natives behind bars are 5 to 6 times the non native average, they didn't get there by leading a crime free life. Must be cultural.

charter.rights · January 31, 2008

I was using your standard....which I surpased exceedingly. I failed to see your citations showing the forces are filled with misfits.
Didn't you say you were in the forces?

Anyway, It doesn't take a mathematician to figure out if natives behind bars are 5 to 6 times the non native average, they didn't get there by leading a crime free life. Must be cultural.

So you are wimping out? Figures. So it mustn't be true then.

M.Dancer · January 31, 2008

So you are wimping out? Figures. So it mustn't be true then.

What about your comments about CF recruits......just projecting I assume?

Okay, fair enough, lets assume you aren't smart enough to figure out why the prisons are over flowing with natives....

The leading causes of death among registered First Nations for the past decade are accidents and violence (motor vehicle accidents, suicides, burns and fire, firearms and drowning.) These rates have decreased by nearly one third since 1978, but are still higher than the national rate. They account for over one-third of all aboriginal deaths, compared with 8% for the general population

charter.rights · January 31, 2008

What about your comments about CF recruits......just projecting I assume?
Okay, fair enough, lets assume you aren't smart enough to figure out why the prisons are over flowing with natives....

The leading causes of death among registered First Nations for the past decade are accidents and violence (motor vehicle accidents, suicides, burns and fire, firearms and drowning.) These rates have decreased by nearly one third since 1978, but are still higher than the national rate. They account for over one-third of all aboriginal deaths, compared with 8% for the general population

My comments are clearly an opinion. Do you have trouble discerning fact from opinion M?

I know why prisons have more natives. That is besides the point. You made a statement and tried to back it. You never intimated it was an opinion, but proposed it as fact. Yet you have no facts, because your statement isn't true.

If you want to admit it is just an opinion, then I would call you on your prejudicial ignorance. You chose.

M.Dancer · February 1, 2008

My comments are clearly an opinion. Do you have trouble discerning fact from opinion M?
I know why prisons have more natives. That is besides the point. You made a statement and tried to back it. You never intimated it was an opinion, but proposed it as fact. Yet you have no facts, because your statement isn't true.

If you want to admit it is just an opinion, then I would call you on your prejudicial ignorance. You chose.

If you know why there are more natives committing more crimes and being convicted then there is no need to go on. The numbers speak for themselves.

I assume though, on the contrary, your opinions are pretty much worthles and baseless. Thanks for the admission.

Army Guy · February 1, 2008

charter.rights:

Pretty easy to paint a whole dept or group, or even a race with one brush stroke. but i guess hate does that clouds ones mind to the facts.......and i will call you on your prejudicial ignorance, in regards to our nations military. You've yet to provide a source that confirms your opinion or alligations....you've provided a source that has proven that a few individuals connected to the military it did the crime....but then again so could anyone find a source for any alligation that i might make in regards to aborginal people....I mean both our cultures have such a clean historical back ground....

charter.rights · February 1, 2008

charter.rights:
Pretty easy to paint a whole dept or group, or even a race with one brush stroke. but i guess hate does that clouds ones mind to the facts.......and i will call you on your prejudicial ignorance, in regards to our nations military. You've yet to provide a source that confirms your opinion or alligations....you've provided a source that has proven that a few individuals connected to the military it did the crime....but then again so could anyone find a source for any alligation that i might make in regards to aborginal people....I mean both our cultures have such a clean historical back ground....

I don't need a source. It is an opinion, nothing more. It has nothing to do with hate either. It has to do with the rampant attacks the CAF has made on innocent people.

At Kahnawake, the army spit, crapped and pissed on food and first aid supplys sent into the camp. They refused to allow the Red Cross access to the medical centre and used warfare tactics against women, children and old people. Only a misfit and their misfit commanders would do such a thing. Only depraved individuals would stick a young girl with a bayonet and throw teen aged girls off the Mercier Bridge.

So it is my opinion. The CAF are a bunch of misfits with rifles. Nothing good at all.

g_bambino · February 1, 2008

I don't need a source. It is an opinion, nothing more. It has nothing to do with hate either. It has to do with the rampant attacks the CAF has made on innocent people.
At Kahnawake, the army spit, crapped and pissed on food and first aid supplys sent into the camp. They refused to allow the Red Cross access to the medical centre and used warfare tactics against women, children and old people. Only a misfit and their misfit commanders would do such a thing. Only depraved individuals would stick a young girl with a bayonet and throw teen aged girls off the Mercier Bridge.

So it is my opinion. The CAF are a bunch of misfits with rifles. Nothing good at all.

Uuuh-huh. Well, that's a pretty poorly formed opinion, then.

charter.rights · February 2, 2008

Uuuh-huh. Well, that's a pretty poorly formed opinion, then.

It comes honestly. When you see guys beating up women and children, torturing little boys for kicks and then lying about it from Command down the ranks then it sure spoils the taste of support, now doesn't it. It is a well formed and rock solid opinion based on some pretty damning evidence.

Show me that they've changed and I might have a change of heart. But sending boys in to kill civilians in Afghanistan in a war we don't belong in certainly doesn't reinforce the opinion that Army = Good. And sending those same misfit boys, who got duped into believing they have a God-driven mission to go out and shoot the enemy and them putting their dead lifeless bodies on display on the Highway of Heroes doesn't detract from the morbidity of senseless media sensationalism either. Both the CAF and the media are scum-sucking flea bags in my opinion.

Edited February 2, 2008 by charter.rights

Frankie · February 2, 2008

The way she's acting has nothing to do with Christianity or her claims of being a Christain. She is what the Abrahamic religions might call demon possesed or demon oppressed. Thats probably what most of those religions would classify her as. Some other people who don't believe in that or in religion, just might call her a crazy person.

Oleg Bach · February 2, 2008

The way she's acting has nothing to do with Christianity or her claims of being a Christain. She is what the Abrahamic religions might call demon possesed or demon oppressed. Thats probably what most of those religions would classify her as. Some other people who don't believe in that or in religion, just might call her a crazy person.

I had a sister in law like that..black cloud hung over her head - and her lawyers head..talk about a darkness emulating from the eyes and an aura that looked like black ink in a swimming pool. Calling the nasty sister in law a crazy person is a misnomer- She knew exactly what she was doing - and she as all evil jerks, don't really have any vision for what the out come of evil deeds will be - evil and stupidity are the same thing in my books. As far as a person being possessed - well - usually it is another human being the possesses them and controls them - call them demonic if you will...but - those in a stupified state of evil always have handlers in the wings.