Ontario Loyalist Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 Donald Rumsfeld number 1. Would you like some more? The Rumsfelds appear to originally be from Germany, and he's now listed as a Protestant. Whether ther family was once Jewish, I can't say... Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
Ontario Loyalist Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) They do eh?You should probably stop posting till you have completed college or something educationally edifying. You're one to talk... So when you go to your synogogue, isn't there usually a sign out front for some sort of organization that is raising money for Israel? You also have to admit that it's a little disconcerting that the PM of this country can get a rousing ovation from an auditorium full of Jews when he makes a pro-Israel speech. Israel is technically a foreign country, and people who claim to be Canadian should not be doing that. Edited November 26, 2008 by Ontario Loyalist Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
M.Dancer Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 The Rumsfelds appear to originally be from Germany, and he's now listed as a Protestant. Whether ther family was once Jewish, I can't say... Mr. Canada always posts facts. Needless to say his facts are almost always wrong. In this thread he says the Jews have dual citizenship, such a blanket statement is nonsense. He also claims that Rumsfeld is Jewish. He can offer no proof of this so it stands it is just another one of his assine statements, wholey without merit. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Ontario Loyalist Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 Mr. Canada always posts facts. Needless to say his facts are almost always wrong. In this thread he says the Jews have dual citizenship, such a blanket statement is nonsense. He also claims that Rumsfeld is Jewish. He can offer no proof of this so it stands it is just another one of his assine statements, wholey without merit. He may be wrong on that point, but the fact remains that there are a disproportionate number of Jews in high ranking positions in the American government, and in general American-Jews tend to be pro-Israel. Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
M.Dancer Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 Your one to talk...So when you go to your synogogue, isn't there usually a sign out front for some sort of organization that is raising money for Israel? You also have to admit that it's a little disconcerting that the PM of this country can get a rousing ovation from an auditorium full of Jews when he makes a pro-Israel speech. Israel is technically a foreign country, and people who claim to be Canadian should not be doing that. And that is apropos to what? My church has a sign too, they're raising money for Africa. By the way, there is a difference between your and you're....meet Mr.Canada at the remedial education centre.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 He may be wrong on that point, but the fact remains that there are a disproportionate number of Jews in high ranking positions in the American government, and in general American-Jews tend to be pro-Israel. What on earth does disproportionate mean? You think there should be some quota? What should that quote be perchance? How about only capable intelligent people need apply? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Ontario Loyalist Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 And that is apropos to what? My church has a sign too, they're raising money for Africa.By the way, there is a difference between your and you're....meet Mr.Canada at the remedial education centre.... Yeah, I figured you'd make an issue about the your/you're... petty, pathetic people tend to resort to making issues about typos when they can't think of anything intelligent to say... Anyway, I did change it before you posted... Well, the next time you pass by a synogogue, go take a closer look at the sign; raising funds for an overseas mission or aid organization is slightly different that raising funds via bonds for a foreign government. I can't think of any church that would do such a thing. Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
M.Dancer Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 Yeah, I figured you'd make an issue about the your/you're... petty, pathetic people tend to resort to making issues about typos when they can't think of anything intelligent to say... Anyway, I did change it before you posted... Nope you didn't....check the time stamp. By the way, you might want to learn how to spell synagogue too Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Ontario Loyalist Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 What on earth does disproportionate mean? You think there should be some quota? What should that quote be perchance?How about only capable intelligent people need apply? Oh, is that how it should work? Are you saying that ethnic minorities and women are not capable and intelligent enough to fill high ranking government positions? Please, even I wouldn't go that far... Who said anything about a quota? I'm simply saying that there is a disproportionate representation of certain ethnic and religious groups in high ranking positions in American politics. Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
Ontario Loyalist Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 Nope you didn't....check the time stamp.By the way, you might want to learn how to spell synagogue too Yeah, my editted post was submitted at 6:05, you posted at 6:07... That's two minutes... roughly equivalent to you mental age... Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
jbg Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 This is exactly my problem with Israel and Jews. Jews have dual citizenship and serve in governments around the world.Interesting. I don't have dual citizenship. I know plenty of other Jews and to my knowledge most are citizens of the United States only. They can say that we should welcome all races and mix with everyone but they would never advocate for that in Israel. So why are we having this thrust on us but back home in Israel they push for exactly the opposite.Israel has plenty of Christians and Muslims who live in peace, and some are even elected to the Knesset.In Canada I'm supposed to be tolerant yet in Israel they can be decidedly not tolerant. They can in fact use military force to keep their lands free from other races and this is acceptable for Jews to do but not for Gentiles.Israel is very intolerant of suicide bombers. In fact many die in the process.EDIT- Im not saying I advocate violence as I certainly do not just pointing out the paradox of our times.Where does violence come in unless you think it is a good idea. Even your bigoted post doesn't mention violence; until now. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
WestViking Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 In Canada I'm supposed to be tolerant yet in Israel they can be decidedly not tolerant. They can in fact use military force to keep their lands free from other races and this is acceptable for Jews to do but not for Gentiles. Canada was founded as an extension of Britain and France. Israel was founded as a homeland for Jews. There is quite a difference between the two. Quote Hall Monitor of the Shadowy Group
M.Dancer Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 Oh, is that how it should work? Are you saying that ethnic minorities and women are not capable and intelligent enough to fill high ranking government positions? Please, even I wouldn't go that far... Who said anything about a quota? I'm simply saying that there is a disproportionate representation of certain ethnic and religious groups in high ranking positions in American politics. Please do try and be coherent....if you suggest they are disproportinate, then it stands to reason you want the opposite...a proportionate number...so what is it? What is the right number of Jews? and as far as saying.... Are you saying that ethnic minorities and women are not capable and intelligent enough to fill high ranking government positions? How on earth do you get that when I said... How about only capable intelligent people need apply? I know I know...reading and comprehension are two diffewrent things... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Oleg Bach Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 You can go on like babies about how the "Jews" control the world and our nation. How they are so "brilliant and shrewd" - How they conspire and control us poor little people....I leaned something and it took a five year concerted effort to come to the realization that this is a crock! Spearheading a law suit against a governmental agent that was supposedly Jewish...First thing I noticed was they did NOT hire the sterotypical "Jewish Lawyer" to protect them. They hired a top of the line Anglo law firm. Not once did I see a Jewish lawyer or judge for that matter during the 5 year period that was the litigation. At best the only Jewish lawyer that I met one was one sent "pro-bono" by the Anglos at Osgoodehall..who was a wimp of a man...who promised a letter of apology but no settlement. That was it - Between the Canadian Jewish Congress and the Defendant - not one brave person stepped forward to defend their position. In fact their primary supervisor took the stand - and he was Catholic by birth - who put himself forward as being an expert on Judism..It was pitiful. So as this adventure went to the court of appeal and then off to the Supreme Court Of Canada - I leaned one thing - It was the old Anglo Christian elite that was in total control...The Jewish community was just as controled and abused as are the blacks at Jane and Finch -so give it up guys - The power exists in your ball park - Israel for instance can not make a move unless it is OKed by the Anglo Christian elite. Some Jews are but well paid henchmen that are highly orgainized in a tribal mafia fashion - they do the dirty work but they do not sign the cheques - Anglos disperse the money - so who do you blame? The funder or the hencheman? Even Allan Greenspan could not please his Anglo masters for ever - as we now see. Quote
Ontario Loyalist Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 and as far as saying....How on earth do you get that when I said... I know I know...reading and comprehension are two diffewrent things... Sorry, I forgot: I have to respond with simple sentences for you to understand... You seem to be suggesting that women and visible minorities are not "capable intelligent people" because they constitute a vast minority of high ranking people in the American government. Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
M.Dancer Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 Sorry, I forgot: I have to respond with simple sentences for you to understand... You seem to be suggesting that women and visible minorities are not "capable intelligent people" because they constitute a vast minority of high ranking people in the American government. No i'm not..in fact other than you, you are the only one who has mentioned them. I'm not sure why you think that any group who constitute high ranking positions would be not capable....I can only assume this is because you are used to talking with yourself. Simple sentences are good...ones that make sense are better...please try. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Oleg Bach Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 All those that disapprove of Jews had better widen their scope and disappove all all jerks and weasils in the world...there are jerks in every group...to centralize on one means you miss the others.....which makes you a fixated fanatic. Quote
Ontario Loyalist Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 All those that disapprove of Jews had better widen their scope and disappove all all jerks and weasils in the world...there are jerks in every group...to centralize on one means you miss the others.....which makes you a fixated fanatic. Of course, but you have to admit that when ou talk about the people in "every [other] group" it doesn't contitute an "anti-" something. Holding Jews to the same standard as everybody else somehow consists of some "hate" motivation. Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
M.Dancer Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 Of course, but you have to admit that when ou talk about the people in "every [other] group" it doesn't contitute an "anti-" something. Holding Jews to the same standard as everybody else somehow consists of some "hate" motivation. Get back to me when some twit says that catholics are disproportionately represented in the White house.....then we will talk about holding Jews to the same standards as everybody else. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Oleg Bach Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 Catholics are horrible anti-Christists...what's with the pope wearing a Yamaka? Quote
Ontario Loyalist Posted November 30, 2008 Report Posted November 30, 2008 Get back to me when some twit says that catholics are disproportionately represented in the White house.....then we will talk about holding Jews to the same standards as everybody else. Try giving a straight and honest answer about who holds high ranking positions in the American government... Is the system that is now in place allow for the most "capable intelligent people" to fill those positions; if not, then why is there a disproportionate number of Jews filling those positions? And is there some connection here with the fact that there are so few women and visibile minorities filling these positions? Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
Ontario Loyalist Posted November 30, 2008 Report Posted November 30, 2008 Catholics are horrible anti-Christists...what's with the pope wearing a Yamaka? I wouldn't go so far as to consider them Christians... Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Posted November 30, 2008 (edited) Try giving a straight and honest answer about who holds high ranking positions in the American government... Is the system that is now in place allow for the most "capable intelligent people" to fill those positions; if not, then why is there a disproportionate number of Jews filling those positions? And is there some connection here with the fact that there are so few women and visibile minorities filling these positions? Simple.....the system is not designed to fill positions with the most "capable intelligent people". That caliber of talent works elsewhere. Edited November 30, 2008 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
M.Dancer Posted November 30, 2008 Report Posted November 30, 2008 Try giving a straight and honest answer about who holds high ranking positions in the American government... Is the system that is now in place allow for the most "capable intelligent people" to fill those positions; if not, then why is there a disproportionate number of Jews filling those positions? And is there some connection here with the fact that there are so few women and visibile minorities filling these positions? Define disproportinate number of jews....you might want to start by: 1) Tabulating the number of managerial positions in the whatehouse administration 2) List every person and cqategorize them by sex, ethnicity and religious affiliation. Once you have done that, then feel free to explain why one group has a disporpotionate number and why that is possibly bad. Until you do that, I really couldn't give a crap. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Oleg Bach Posted November 30, 2008 Report Posted November 30, 2008 If Israel is almost fully secularized then surely Jewish administrators in Washington are almost totally secularized. I could see it being a concern if there was a large group of hat wearing Hassidics over running the place and conspiring and excluding all non-Orthodox non- traditionals and all gentiles. But that is not the case - If because of the past breeding policies of Jews..that they are now not a religion but a race - then race hatred or genetic hate would be what anti-semitizm is about these days - In that case lets hate everyone who is different genetically from our selves - that would mean hating the whole planet. The only quam I have regarding racism practiced by old school Jews is that they refere to non-jews as animals...This is not acceptable. Quote
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