DogOnPorch Posted November 22, 2007 Report Posted November 22, 2007 Abu Nawall, a captured al-Qaeda in Iraq leader, said he didn't join the Sunni insurgent group here to kill Americans or to form a Muslim caliphate. He signed up for the cash. "I was out of work and needed the money," said Abu Nawall, the nom de guerre of an unemployed metal worker who was paid as much as $1,300 a month as an insurgent. He spoke in a phone interview from an Iraqi military base where he is being detained. "How else could I support my family?" http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...1902022_pf.html I found this to be rather interesting...much like many wars and many armies...one must use mercenaries when the 'rah-rah' patriotism wears-off. Combined with bin Laden's recent plea for unity in the ranks of the insurgents makes me think that perhaps the war is a huge strain on al-Qaeda as well as the US/UK. Now...who will blink first? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Among the things which sadden the Muslims and delight the unbelievers, is the hindering of some combat operations against the enemy due to, among other things, treachery. ---Osama bin Laden Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
M.Dancer Posted November 22, 2007 Report Posted November 22, 2007 I believe that aspect of the insurgency has been on going from the get go. Thousands or professional soldiers suddenly unemployed and looking for work. Well, they has a marketable skill of sorts. One sure weapon to defeat the insurgency is to create jobs. Which is probably why they target just about anything that brings the potential for rebuiding to Iraq. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
DogOnPorch Posted November 22, 2007 Author Report Posted November 22, 2007 One sure weapon to defeat the insurgency is to create jobs. That's for sure...all that would be left would be the real hardcore terrorists. ------------------------------------------------------------- I was participating in my own lynching, but the problem was I didn't know what I was being lynched for. ---General William Westmoreland Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
M.Dancer Posted November 22, 2007 Report Posted November 22, 2007 That's for sure...all that would be left would be the real hardcore terrorists. Of course though, the catch 22 is the hard corfe terrorists target iraqis working on rebuilding and pay the ones who couold use the jobs to do the attacks...... ...who said getting out of a quagmire is easy? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
jbg Posted November 23, 2007 Report Posted November 23, 2007 Of course though, the catch 22 is the hard corfe terrorists target iraqis working on rebuilding and pay the ones who couold use the jobs to do the attacks.........who said getting out of a quagmire is easy? And what kind of "real jobs" would interest the kinds of people that insurgencies recruit? I suspect, not very many. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Drea Posted November 23, 2007 Report Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) ANY job, jbg. These people have nothing, no food, no shelter, no future. The terrorist groups offer them food, shelter etc. If they had jobs, housing, food and a future they would not want to join an organization where they could possibly get killed. As it stands they have nothing to live for. If they had something to live for (a future for themselves and their children) recruitment would drop off. Yes, of course some crazies will still join, but the moderates at least would have an opportunity not to. As it stands now, they really have no other choice but to join. Like gangs, one joins because they have nothing else. Edited November 23, 2007 by Drea Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
myata Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 Another interesting aspect to discuss would be the motivations of people who believe that their superiority entitles them to barge into other countries, destroy, kill, then rebuild them accoriding to their bizzare ideas, and call it salvation. In my understanding, they're as good (or bad, depending on the perspective) as their counterparts. Except, theirs was the first hand. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
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