NDP Obstructing New Daycares...

[M.Dancer]

Legislation from the NDP will attempt to block foreign-owned big-box day care from setting up in Canada, and will push for a nation-wide framework to regulate federal funding for the industry.

The private member's bill will be debated in the House of Commons today.

The opposition parties have united in support of Bill C-303, the Early Learning and Child Care Act, which sets out terms for "accessible, universal and high-quality early-learning and child-care programs and services." However, the Conservatives have vowed not to pass it into law.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...ada&s_name=

I'm sure the real reason is they fear the daycare workers will not be unionized. I have no particular problem with high cost daycare...as the problem now is no daycare no matter what the cost....As we add daycare spaces it will lesson trhe strain and may even force some operators to drop prices to attract parents.

Anyway add children to the list of things Canadian the NDP hates.

[White Doors]

They could give a fig about the children, they just want more members for CUPE.

Such blatent ideology. They should be ashamed of themselves.

[Fortunata]

There is reason for concern. The NDP may have it right.

The largest daycare corporation in the world – often criticized for cutting care to raise profits – is bringing its controversial form of big-box privatized child care to Canada.

In a 2006 report by the Australian Institute, a respected Australian think-tank, researchers said poor food quality and cost-cutting have compromised quality even as ABC has amassed a fortune from public child care subsidies given to parents.

The report was based on a survey of employees at daycares across Australia. The report singled out ABC, saying that despite an estimated $172 million in government subsidies, the daycare giant fell short in most areas of quality care when compared to community based, non-profit centres.

http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/268752

A survey of child-care workers has found that one in five working for centres run by corporate chains would not send their children there.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/thu...3441339454.html

[mikedavid00]

They could give a fig about the children, they just want more members for CUPE.

Such blatent ideology. They should be ashamed of themselves.

I completely agree.

[Keepitsimple]

There is reason for concern. The NDP may have it right.

The Australian Institute is on the left of the political spectrum so they have a natural tendency to lean towards a big government solution.....and although 1 out of 5 ABC workers would not use ABC for their own children, the remaining 4 out of 5 would. That's an excellent ratio.

While there are only a handful of Australian think tanks they have played a significant role in Australian political debate. The most prominent think tanks from the 1970's on have been the conservative think tanks - the Centre for Independent Studies (CIS) and the Institute of Public Affairs (IPA) and its spin-off, the Sydney Institute.

The two long-standing think tanks loosely aligned with the Labor Party are the Australian Fabian Society, and the Evatt Foundation.

Locally based think tanks - such as the Brisbane Institute have emerged over the last decade while The Australia Institute, which could be loosely described as centre-left, has played a significant role in debate over social and environmental policies.

Link: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title...Tanks/Australia

[M.Dancer]

The subtext here is Daycare is a good election issue. Solutions to the daycare shortage removes this issue, and solutions involving the private sector fly in the face of the NDP ethos.

The NDP and Layton would rather have working families travel great distances or place their kids in unregulated unlicensed care than lose their election issue.

In short this socialist clique care more for the Taliban than your kids.

[daniel]

The subtext here is Daycare is a good election issue. Solutions to the daycare shortage removes this issue, and solutions involving the private sector fly in the face of the NDP ethos.

The NDP and Layton would rather have working families travel great distances or place their kids in unregulated unlicensed care than lose their election issue.

In short this socialist clique care more for the Taliban than your kids.

Actually it was Mike Harris and his conservatives that "would rather have working families travel great distances or place their kids in unregulated unlicensed care than lose their election issue." They cancelled the NDP's early childcare education plan that included daycare.

It was also the Federal Conservatives who cancelled the Liberal National Daycare program so please refrain from all your misrepresentations.

[M.Dancer]

Actually it was Mike Harris and his conservatives that "would rather have working families travel great distances or place their kids in unregulated unlicensed care than lose their election issue." They cancelled the NDP's early childcare education plan that included daycare.

It was also the Federal Conservatives who cancelled the Liberal National Daycare program so please refrain from all your misrepresentations.

And that is relavent because Mike Harris is in power....or that the NDP nearly bankrupted Ontario with promises that they either didn't or would not implement.....Not withstanding the NDP's vapour pledges, it is Taliban Jack and his cable of family haters who are not giving Canadians a choice.

[DrGreenthumb]

Oh good God give you right wing whackjob heads a shake. My guess is that cons like you just want some private company to house them for you till they are old enough for you to throw them in the new private prisons you want to make money from. You'd sell your own mothers if you could profit from it. Rather than set up properly run early learning centres you'd rather wait for the kids to fall through the cracks so you'll have some slave labour to hire out from your privately owned human caging facilities.

Stephen Harper is the root of all evil.

[M.Dancer]

Looks like someone fell though the cracks of the english literacy class. Then kept on falling past logic and common sense.....

[Peter F]

M.Dancer:

Anyway add children to the list of things Canadian the NDP hates.

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In short this socialist clique care more for the Taliban than your kids.

lnkplstksbi

[margrace]

Looks like someone fell though the cracks of the english literacy class. Then kept on falling past logic and common sense.....

Remember Harris and his supper jails

[DrGreenthumb]

I'm glad the NDP are blocking foreign owned big box daycares. Probably really pisses off Harper who is trying his best to make Canada evemore the US's bitch. The opposition makes up 2/3 of the representatives Canadians voted in. So 66% of us would rather have the Liberal/ndp version of daycare than the kiddie cattle ranches the republiCons prefer.

Edited November 21, 2007 by DrGreenthumb

[capricorn]

So 66% of us would rather have the Liberal/ndp version of daycare than the kiddie cattle ranches the republiCons prefer.

I've been saying for a long time that the Liberals and NDP should merge.

[M.Dancer]

I'm glad the NDP are blocking foreign owned big box daycares. Probably really pisses off Harper who is trying his best to make Canada evemore the US's bitch. The opposition makes up 2/3 of the representatives Canadians voted in. So 66% of us would rather have the Liberal/ndp version of daycare than the kiddie cattle ranches the republiCons prefer.

I take it the sum total of your debating points are found on bumperstickers?

Well, as long as you're comfortable denying canadian parents daycare choices....

[White Doors]

Oh good God give you right wing whackjob heads a shake. My guess is that cons like you just want some private company to house them for you till they are old enough for you to throw them in the new private prisons you want to make money from. You'd sell your own mothers if you could profit from it. Rather than set up properly run early learning centres you'd rather wait for the kids to fall through the cracks so you'll have some slave labour to hire out from your privately owned human caging facilities.

Stephen Harper is the root of all evil.

hahaha Rhetoric much?

[White Doors]

I'm glad the NDP are blocking foreign owned big box daycares. Probably really pisses off Harper who is trying his best to make Canada evemore the US's bitch. The opposition makes up 2/3 of the representatives Canadians voted in. So 66% of us would rather have the Liberal/ndp version of daycare than the kiddie cattle ranches the republiCons prefer.

Are you at the end of your talking points memo yet? Some people would really like to talk about the issue not just rehash 60's slogans.

[Topaz]

I went 'searching" and found this about the "ABC" or the 123 Busy Beaver Learning Centres which is in Alberta right now and is trying to come to Ontario. The co-founder is a former milkman from Australia, who start this in his country at the age of 22. Last year, the profit from this company was 81. MIL. Now, the only problem that may arise is under the free trade and GAT. Apparently, when foreign childcare centre setup in Canada, the government may not have any say over the licensing requirements over the childcare institutions. Just another 'Loophole" against Canada in the Free Trade!! BTW, the company in Australia makes 40% of its profit from the government hand outs. After reading this I had to wonder if this is the reason Harper decided to give parents $100 per child and not create centres , he knew that this business would be expanding into the rest of Canada.

[mikedavid00]

BTW, the company in Australia makes 40% of its profit from the government hand outs. After reading this I had to wonder if this is the reason Harper decided to give parents $100 per child and not create centres , he knew that this business would be expanding into the rest of Canada.

That's how gov't funds should be spent. It should be handouts to parents to do as they wish only if they need the benefit.

The private sector will be run 3x lower cost, better service, more accountable, and more efficient than the public daycares.

Or we can go the other way and have CUPE civil servants and $60,000/y daycare worker, have 'ethnic daycares' (which is what the current system is talking about doing) and another gov't building in Ottawa goiong up to promise jobs to visible minoroties where everyone is making +$60,000 a year while the system is simply unaccountable with oodles of corruption.

What do you want?

[M.Dancer]

Or we can go the other way and have CUPE civil servants and $60,000/y daycare worker.....

With or without CUPE....there are no $60,000 daycare workers except in the corners of your imagination