Soccer riots world-wide

[kuzadd]

Linked inextricably to flawed western society and CHRISTIANITY

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/126546/south...n_soccer_riots/

South America

[kuzadd]

and those christian western Italians, these are seriously flawed societies!

http://www.rediff.com/sports/2004/mar/23rome.htm

Rome soccer riot was planned'

A hardcore of Lazio and AS Roma soccer fans worked together to spark the riot that caused the Rome derby to be abandoned on Sunday, politicians said on Monday.

Police on Monday said they had arrested 13 supporters from both sides, some of them known hooligans, following a six-hour pitched battle between police and fans that left more than 170 people injured.

or Australia, that great western Brit civilization founded on criminal from Britian

http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Off...t/2005/03/13/11

Officers attacked during soccer riot

Five people were arrested over a riot involving about 50 fans of rival soccer clubs in Sydney yesterday.

Two police officers were injured in the violence, between supporters of the Croatian-backed Sydney United and the Serbian-backed Bonnyrigg White Eagles.

Edited November 2, 2007 by kuzadd

[kuzadd]

and JUST 20 hours ago!!! Imagine that just 20 hours ago!!!

http://iccoventry.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news...-name_page.html

Huge soccer brawl in Coventry!!

Riot cops tackle huge soccer brawl in Coventry

Nov 1 2007

FAMILIES have spoken of their terror after masked football fans launched a pitched battle outside their homes.

They say up to 300 Coventry City and West Ham fans were involved in the riot.

The mob violence broke out after the crucial Carling Cup game at the Ricoh Arena on Tuesday night.

Troubled flared at about 10pm in Wheelwright Lane, Holbrooks, half a mile from the ground.

As the rival gangs hurled bricks and stones at each other, frightened residents called police.

Witnesses have told of how riot police tried to keep the fans apart, but were overpowered.

According to two people, a police van was driven into the baying mob but had to retreat when hooligans began to bombard the vehicle with stones.

I simply can't imagine that?

rioting western /christians, who the heck do they think they are?!

So many riots world wide to choose from, I was frightened,at the madness. Yet horrifically drawn to the frightening clothes worn by the rioters, HOODIES, GIANT HATS in garish colours, who forced them to wear these God awful pieces of clothing??

What is wrong with the societies they are raised in?

It must be there religion that causes this outrageous behaviour!!

It just must be, because I was so frightened by it all, I need something simplistic to blame it all on, so then I can demonize and make sure that I feel better and smugly superior.

I saw all that caucasion skin and some caucasion tushie, in some videos, OMG!!!!

Edited November 2, 2007 by kuzadd

[buffycat]

and JUST 20 hours ago!!! Imagine that just 20 hours ago!!!

http://iccoventry.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news...-name_page.html

I simply can't imagine that?

rioting western /christians, who the heck do they think they are?!

So many riots world wide to choose from, I was frightened,at the madness. Yet horrifically drawn to the frightening clothes worn by the rioters, HOODIES, GIANT HATS in garish colours, who forced them to wear these God awful pieces of clothing??

What is wrong with the societies they are raised in?

It must be there religion that causes this outrageous behaviour!!

It just must be, because I was so frightened by it all, I need something simplistic to blame it all on, so then I can demonize and make sure that I feel better and smugly superior.

I saw all that caucasion skin and some caucasion tushie, in some videos, OMG!!!!

LMFAO!!!

You go girl!!!! :lol:

[kuzadd]

more riots, OMG!!!!! I was so frightened, again, Morally where does this leave us??

Where is this heading??

World wide subjugation by these rioters,,,,, aaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_riots

21st century

* 2001 - Seattle Mardi Gras Riots, February 2001, (Seattle, WA, USA)

* 2001 - 2001 Cincinnati Riots, April 2001, (Cincinnati, Ohio, USA)

* 2001 - Quebec City Summit of the Americas, April 2001 (Quebec, Canada)

* 2001 - Banja Luka Riots, May 2001, (Banja Luka, Bosnia and Herzegovina)

* 2001 - Oldham Riots, May 2001, (Oldham, Greater Manchester, England)

* 2001 - Gothenburg Riots, June 2001, (Gothenburg, Sweden)

* 2001 - Bradford Riot, July 2001, (Bradford, West Yorkshire, England)

* 2001 - Genoa Group of Eight Summit protest, July 2001, (Genoa, Italy)

* 2001 - Holy Cross dispute, Summer 2001, (Belfast, Northern Ireland)

* 2001 - December 2001 Riots, (Buenos Aires, Argentina)

* 2002 - San Salvador Atenco Airport Riot, (San Salvador Atenco, Mexico)

* 2002 - Post-Godhra Riots, Feb 2002 (Gujarat, India)

* 2002 - 2002 Urso Branco prison riot,[3] (Rondonia, Brazil)

* 2002 - Chinese textile worker riot, [4] (Shuikou, Guangdong, China)

* 2002 - Ohio State University post Michigan football game riot, November 2002, (Columbus, OH, USA)

* 2003 - Benton Harbor Riot, June 2003, (Benton Harbor, Michigan, USA)

* 2003 - Maldives civil unrest, September 2003, (Malé, Maldives)

* 2003 - Riot over bad policy during a SARS outbreak, [5], (Xiandie, China)

* 2003 - Riot after The Exploited had to cancel a show in Montreal, Canada. [6] October 14, 2003

* 2004 - 2004 Kosovo riots

* 2004 - Palm Island riot, (Palm Island, Queensland, Australia)

* 2004 - Redfern riots, (Sydney, Australia)

* 2004 - Han-Hui riot, [7], (Henan province, China).

* 2004 - VEISHEA riot, drunk Iowa State students riot, cancel 2005 VEISHEA (Ames, Iowa)

* 2004 Urso Branco prison riot,[8] (Rondonia, Brazil)

* 2004 - Chinese riot in response to a beating,[9] (Guangdong, China)

* 2004 - Citizens in Benghu riot in response to inflating prices and poor healthcare, [10], (Anhui, China)

* 2004 - Farmers riot when their land is taken and given to real-estate companies, [11], (Zhengzhou, China)

* 2004 - Chinese soccer fans riot when a Japanese team wins the final, [12], (Beijing, China)

* 2005 - Dongzhou protest, [13] (Guangdong, China)

* 2005 - Belize unrest, January 2005, (Belmopan, Belize)

* 2005 - Macquarie Fields riots, February 2005, southwestern suburb of Sydney, Australia

* 2005 - Cedar Revolution, February 2005, Lebanon

* 2005 - Anti-Japanese riots, April 2005, Beijing, Shenzhen and Guangzhou, China

* 2005 - Riots in response to land taken for a powerplant, [14], (Shenyou, China)

* 2005 - Riots over excessive pollution, [15], (Zhejiang, China)

* 2005 - Perpignan ethnic violence, May 2005, [16], (Perpignan, France)

* 2005 - Maldives civil unrest, August 2005, (Malé, Maldives)

* 2005 - Chinese worker riot, [17] July 2005, (Xizhou, China). In 2005, the government admitted to 87,000 riots across China.[18]

* 2005 - 2005 civil unrest in France, October 2005

* 2005 - 2005 Toledo Riot, October 2005, (Toledo, Ohio, USA)

* 2005 - Anti-Muslim Riots of Mau [19], October 2005, (Mau, UttarPradesh),India

* 2005 - Mar del Plata Summit of the Americas, November 2005, (Mar del Plata, Argentina)

* 2005 - 2005 Cronulla riots, December 2005, (Sydney, Australia)

* 2006 - Cartoon riots

* 2006 - 2006 Dublin riots, Feb. 25, Dublin, Ireland

* 2006 - San Bernardino punk riot, March 4, San Bernardino, California

* 2006 - 2006 labor protests in France, March-April, Paris, France

* 2006 - Burj Dubai riot, (Dubai, UAE)

* 2006 - Hindu/Muslim Aligarh Riots, April 2006, (Aligarh,India)

* 2006 - Rajkumar death riots, April, (India)

* 2006 - April 2006 Venezuela prison riot,[20] April, (Venezuela)

* 2006 - San Salvador Atenco Vendor Permit Riots (San Salvador Atenco, Mexico)[21]

* 2006 - Shengda Economics, Trade and Management College diploma riot [22]

* 2006 - Riot after a hospital doesn't treat a patient, [23], (Sichuan, China)

* 2006 - Download Festival Riots Donnington, UK

* 2006 - Riot over government response to a whistleblower, [24], (Shandong, China)

* 2006 - Riot follows after a traffic accident incites violence, [25], (Chizhou, China)

* 2006 - Riot over a land dispute, [26], (Sanzhou, China)

* 2006 - 2006 Windsor ethnic violence

* 2006 - 2006 protests in Hungary

* 2006 - 2006 Brussels riots

* 2006 - Copenhagen December Riot

* 2007 - Anti-immigrant riots, [27], (Madrid, Spain)

* 2007 - Copenhagen March riots

* 2007 - Chinese immigrants clash with riot police, [28], (Milan, Italy)

* 2007 - Gare du Nord riot in Paris

* 2007 - Riot starts when a company takes over the bus routes and doubles the fares, , (Zhushan, China)

* 2007 - Riot over the relocation of the Bronze Soldier of Tallinn, Estonia

* 2007 - 2007 Karachi Riots, Pakistan

* 2007 - Cigarbox-riot May 14, Freetown Christiania (Copenhagen-Denmark)

* 2007 - G8 Riot Rostock June 3, G8 Conference Rostock, Germany

* 2007 - Undie 500 student Riots in Dunedin, New Zealand

* 2007 - Half year anniversary of ungdomshus eviction.(Copenhagen-Denmark)

* 2007 - Muslim-Tibetan riot, [30], (Qinghai, China)

* 2007 - Muslim-Han riot, [31], (Shandong, China)

* 2007 - Roma riots, [32], Sofia, Bulgaria

Interestingly it looks like most of the riots are western world riots.

corrupt societies and false religion has to be behind these wanton violence and destruction, flawed humanity~

[kuzadd]

LMFAO!!!

You go girl!!!! :lol:

well I think we really need to have a serious discussion on what is inherently wrong, with these groups of Brits, Aussies, Italians etc.,

Is it the inherent fallacy of their religious beliefs?

Is it there wreckless societies?

The failings of the their political leaders?

or is it just their implicit , naturally degenerative behaviour???

Simply put, are they flawed and everything they do just wrong?

Edited November 2, 2007 by kuzadd

[maldon_road]

Soccer has riots - other sports have problems with gambling, drug abuse and basketball's specialty is signing players who beat up women.

Soccer at least is still a legitimate sport, more than you can say about cycling.

[kuzadd]

Soccer has riots - other sports have problems with gambling, drug abuse and basketball's specialty is signing players who beat up women.

Soccer at least is still a legitimate sport, more than you can say about cycling.

I have no issue with soccer, just the "christian" "flawed rioters" that are so lawless, because of who they are.(largely western christians) The game is irrelevant.

Do you think it is because they are lawless, reckless christians that makes them so badly behaved??

Edited November 2, 2007 by kuzadd

[maldon_road]

I have no issue with soccer, just the "christian" "flawed rioters" that are so lawless, because of who they are.(largely western christians) The game is irrelevant.

Do you think it is because they are lawless, reckless christians that makes them so badly behaved??

Somehow I doubt that the people who riot at soccer matches are "Christians".

[kuzadd]

Somehow I doubt that the people who riot at soccer matches are "Christians".

really, but western society is largely christian.

Western society = christian values

Therefore, and I am sure stats would bear that out, the rioters in Britian , the Aussies and especially the Italians are christian!

Therefore

Do you think it is because they are lawless, reckless christians that makes them so badly behaved??

Edited November 2, 2007 by kuzadd

[DogOnPorch]

Stalin had the "Fatherland", Hitler had the "Motherland" and now Bush has the "Homeland"

Stalin = Motherland...as in Mother Russia...Родина-мать

Hitler = Fatherland...as in das Vaterland

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Life is a tragedy when seen in close-up, but a comedy in long-shot.

---Charlie Chaplin

Edited November 2, 2007 by DogOnPorch

[maldon_road]

really, but western society is largely christian.

Western society = christian values

Therefore, and I am sure stats would bear that out, the rioters in Britian , the Aussies and especially the Italians are christian!

Therefore

Do you think it is because they are lawless, reckless christians that makes them so badly behaved??

I think it is the ones that are NOT demonstrating Christian virtues that are rioting.

But given my choice of living in Christian Italy with its occasional soccer riots and Muslim Iraq with its daily terrorist attacks I will take the former.

Edited November 2, 2007 by maldon_road

[AngusThermopyle]

Western society = christian values

Hmmm, I know some would say that, I don't happen to be one of those though. It's true that the Christian beliefs used to be a major factor in western civilization but I dont think that holds true anymore. There are more and more people like myself who just can not accept an ancient tale as the guiding force in our lives.

Personally I believe you'll find thugs in every society. I don't believe this is any reason to attempt to legitimise or excuse thuggery as some would do. All such people should be dealt with harshly, no matter what their race or religious affiliation.

[maldon_road]

Hmmm, I know some would say that, I don't happen to be one of those though. It's true that the Christian beliefs used to be a major factor in western civilization but I dont think that holds true anymore. There are more and more people like myself who just can not accept an ancient tale as the guiding force in our lives.

Personally I believe you'll find thugs in every society. I don't believe this is any reason to attempt to legitimise or excuse thuggery as some would do. All such people should be dealt with harshly, no matter what their race or religious affiliation.

I lived in the UK for many years. Soccer riots represent their "values" about as much as fighting in hockey represents Canadian values.

[kuzadd]

I think it is the ones that are NOT demonstrating Christian virtues that are rioting.

But given my choice of living in Christian Italy with its occasional soccer riots and Muslim Iraq with its daily terrorist attacks I will take the former.

I would hardly compare Italy to occupied Iraq.

That would be unrealistic, an occupied war zone to an unoccupied country.

[kuzadd]

Stalin = Motherland...as in Mother Russia...Родина-мать

Hitler = Fatherland...as in das Vaterland

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Life is a tragedy when seen in close-up, but a comedy in long-shot.

---Charlie Chaplin

Yes, yes some would say that.

I'll let Stalin speak:

In the past we had no fatherland, nor could we have one. But now that we have overthrown capitalism and power is in our hands, in the hands of the people, we have a fatherland, and we will defend its independence. Do you want our socialist fatherland to be beaten and to lose its independence?

"Velikaia Otechestvennaia Voina" Otechestvennaia" is an adjective derived from "otets" (father), through "otechestvo". A more accurate translation would be "the great fatherland war" or "the great war in defense of the fatherland."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/58929

Joseph Stalin and has ruled using many of the communist dictator's most brutal methods. Recall that one of Stalin's most significant achievements was to harness Russian nationalism when Hitler invaded the Soviet Union. By 1941 Stalin had purged the Army, killed millions in forced collectivization and sent hundreds of thousands into labor camps. And yet when Russian soldiers went to the front, they wrote on their tanks for the fatherland and for Stalin. Many were coerced but many fought willingly.

I did not say Russia , I said Stalin and Fatherland.

Now you read up on Hitler, k?

but does it really matter when the US has the HOMELAND.

When the state is using the language of "parental security" it would be advisable to watch out!!!

History demonstrates that clearly.

Edited November 2, 2007 by kuzadd

[maldon_road]

I would hardly compare Italy to occupied Iraq.

That would be unrealistic, an occupied war zone to an unoccupied country.

Okay. I would rather live in Italy to Pakistan, or Saudi Arabia.

[M.Dancer]

Okay. I would rather live in Italy to Pakistan, or Saudi Arabia.

I would rather be in a crowd in a religious procession at St Peters Sq than Mecca....and I bet my Insurance adjuster agrees.....

[Amazing Atheist]

Soccer IMO has the hardest core most violent fans of any sport.

[Wilber]

I would rather be in a crowd in a religious procession at St Peters Sq than Mecca....and I bet my Insurance adjuster agrees.....

Of course he would, infidels are not allowed in Mecca. Your insurance would probably not be valid if you went there.

Would it really matter to you if you were trampled to death in a religious procession or a soccer riot? For some soccer is a religion.

[M.Dancer]

Of course he would, infidels are not allowed in Mecca. Your insurance would probably not be valid if you went there.

Would it really matter to you if you were trampled to death in a religious procession or a soccer riot? For some soccer is a religion.

I would avoid places with a propensity for stampedes....On the otherhand, all it takes is one death in the civilized world and civil engineers and coroner's courts are hard at work making sure it doesn't happen again. Elsewhere though, they seem to leave it to the divinity.

[guyser]

Your insurance would probably not be valid if you went there.

Just an FYI.

Worldwide coverage no exclusions for your own personal scheduled items.

[Wilber]

Just an FYI.

Worldwide coverage no exclusions for your own personal scheduled items.

I'll take your word for it however:

Wikipidea

Non-Muslims are not permitted to enter Mecca per Saudi law. Officials conduct checks to confirm that motorists are either Saudi nationals or in possession of a Hajj Visa. The main airport has a similar security policy. While one of the purposes of these checks is to ensure that the visitor is, in fact, a Muslim, they also serve to deter illegal immigrants including guest workers whose visas have expired or who have not attained the extra permit required to perform the pilgrimage.

[Moxie]

I would rather be in a crowd in a religious procession at St Peters Sq than Mecca....and I bet my Insurance adjuster agrees.....

LOL Wilber beat me to it, but Infidels are not allowed in Mecca.

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't the police intervene regarding the soccer thugs? Now on to Islamic Stampedes crawling over an injured person who's dying on the ground doesn't sound very God like to me. Opps I meant Allah, peace be apon you.

[DogOnPorch]

Yes, yes some would say that.

I'll let Stalin speak...

Easy there, GI Jane. Seems we're both right. After November 1941, Stalin started refering to Russia in his speeches as 'the Motherland' Before that, there are examples of him using 'the Fatherland' in his speeches. This change of gender was apparently due to two reasons:

1) To bring back some of the Tsarist traditions in order to boost moral amoungst the army and civilian population. The term 'Motherland' being one of those traditions. Churches were reopened for example and old religious icons paraded about.

2) To be the opposite of the now hated Germans.

For example: July 1941/ http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/documents/stalin1.htm

Nov 1941/ http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/policy/1941/411107a.html

Now you read up on Hitler, k?

In Mein Kamph, Hitler terms it "The Fatherland"...which is the traditional German terminology. However, some historians claim that Hitler used Germany as an analogy for his mother, Klara, while Austria was his father(land). Thus the few references here and there to Hitlter's 'Germany= Motherland'. This also apparently changed for good when Austria and Germany joined together during Anschluss...his first misson accomplished.

Великая Отечественная война...while it does use отец as the root, it doesn't mean "father", but "domestic". The more common term is родина which means all three: motherland, fatherland, homeland.

As for football riots...the Taliban win hands down.

http://www.rawa.org/zarmeena.htm

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