B. Max

It's very unlikely that for the coming future they (Chinese officials) would accept a national target, they are very clear about that," said Dion in an interview from Australia, following talks with Chinese officials earlier this week. http://www.recorder.ca/cp/National/050902/n090257A.html This while our collection of clowns in ottawa have declared CO2 a toxic substance. Of course it's not. http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partI/2005/2005...l/regle4-e.html Time to delare the liberals economic traitors.

I guess even liberals can't stand to listen to their own nauseate.

No, what you are describing is capitalism everywhere but North America, Japan and western Europe. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You are the one that connected a keynesian economy and i assume a worker paridise. However the basic premise of the mumbo jumbo of keynesian theories is that government should borrow and spend in times of economic down turn, and tax in economic good times to contol inflation. Both are rediculous and both are what got us into trouble in the 70's

created more wealth and put it hands of more people than any other system ever invented, the only crisis in capitalism depends on the degree to which it is infected by socialism and the laws of plunder. Therefore the two can not be disconnected. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> .No it is not. It is not suppose to do anything else, and no. Yes, lower taxes and smaller government. of keynesian the economy worked better because it was more pro-worker. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is system of low productivity and higher costs, and a lower standard of living.

Capitalism has created more wealth and put it hands of more people than any other system ever invented, the only crisis in capitalism depends on the degree to which it is infected by socialism and the laws of plunder. Therefore the two can not be disconnected.

So which of the laws of plunder do you suggest as the remedy.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly, or did anyone see lower gas prices at petro can. It was rip off of taxpayers and in the end went a long way to reducing competion at the pumps to this day.

No one is going to meet those targets. You can tie production directly to CO2 emissions. In 1990 we were in resession, so essentially we are suppose to create a recession 6% worse. Today our emissions are about 20% higher than they were in 1990. The US may be the largest consumer of energy but they are also the most productive. Since those that do the producing are to be sent into poverty, it begs the question, what government trough are you in.

I think that pretty much describes your contributions here to date. As a response, it's fairly typical for you: no attempt to address any arguments, nothing. Just vaguely condescending dismissals designed to project an air of superiority when, in fact, all it does is betray your own intellectual bankruptcy. Keep it up! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Have you ever made an arguement, certainly not in this thread.

Better get used to it, kyoto is dead as it should be, or he wouldn't even be saying what he did. Blair has realized that the thought of being publicly hanged by a lynch mob isn't his cup of tea. What do you you think would happen with millions out of work and losing everything they have while starving to death at the same time are going to do. Just lie down and die. No sir. The resulting wars and destruction would not even be the slightest bit worth it. While all along being based on a pack of lies.

Most of them are standing there with their hand out. However i'm afraid guys like jack martin are all to willing to fill it. Kyoto was a farce from the beginning. Even russia said so until they realized they could fill their pockets. After a time and they had gotten some loot they would have pulled out too.

Aw, shove it. I didn't bash "Chirstians" (this time): I was specifically bashing the white Taliban assclowns you linked to. Anyone who believes "the state's authority is subservient to the Creator's authority, and when in conflict, government must adjust its position to conform to God's natural law" is pushing for the same kind of society we see in Saudi Arabia, Iran etc. And really, spare me the redbaiting (based on an utterance soemone made in the 1930's and in spite of the simple fact that, in 1940, the ACLU formally barred Communists from leadership or staff positions, and later took the position that it didn't even want them as members). And, above all, spare us all any more NewsMax garabage.I know you work for them and all but come on. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nonsense.

Try these guys: http://www.ucsusa.org or these folks: http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwarming....tent/index.html how about here: http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/default.asp And for us Cannucks: http://www.davidsuzuki.org/climate_change/..._ecosystems.asp I think you might have bought into ExxonMobile myths and disinformation. You can't fight the science though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The fact is those are all treehugger outfits with zero credibility and even the EPA has been caught falsifying data. You have bought into the UN treehugger scam to export jobs and wealth from industrialized countries while destorying their economies. If that's not good enough take it over here http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewforu...c560cb6a92bb066 and they'll will straighten you out. http://www.aim.org/publications/aim_report/2002/15.html http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=291 http://atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/GB25Aa02.html http://mitosyfraudes.8k.com/Calen/UCSscam.html http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/archives/000253.html http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/green.htm http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=11548 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../01/wglob01.xml http://www.canadafreepress.com/2004/caruba092404.htm http://www.john-daly.com/

Bwahahahahahahaha! Now why would you think a link from a Christian Dominionist web site would hold any water with anyone? If they are concerned, they should find outlets other than vigilantism. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You can remove leftwing disciple of tolerance from your resume, and add christian basher. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2.../1/161251.shtml Roger Baldwin, founder and leading force in the ACLU until his death in 1981, asserted the partisan nature of the ACLU agenda. Said Baldwin, "I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property." And he concluded with "COMMUNISM IS THE GOAL."

The truth about the ACLU and the SPLC. http://www.christianexodus.org/modules.php...34a2b7933a2c6bf The real patriots are the minute men.

Kyoto a farce... You side with the brilliant scientist, George Bush on this one... Stuck a knife... really... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes just like senate who voted 100% against it and most likey on the advice of scientists like the organization of state climatologists and the historical weather records. Gee... I wonder what kind of people get senate positions... perhaps the patronage appointments are aren't big business... And maybe they consulted the two scientists that Bush and Exxon found to say that Global warming wasn't real... and somehow missed the other 99% of scientists in the world...The oil companies say that global warming isn't real, exactly the same as the tobacco industry says smoking isn't harmful to your health... You'd have to be a complete moron to ignore the scientific community... but I guess you are.... Without thought ??? Why would we join Bush in Iraq... The reasons for war have been completely discredited, but you choose to ignore that too I suppose.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Of course that's totally wrong. There is no majority of scientists who back global warming because it doesn't exist. There are the ones that clinton paid as long as they came up with the results he wanted and those UN one worlders the least credibale of all. If you have the proof of global warming put it up there. The reasons for war have not been discredited, the leftwing media have tried to cover them up and distort them. All pablum for the sheepeople who lost the ability to think for themselves. For the most part, the free ride entitlement sickle swinging crowd

Kyoto a farce... You side with the brilliant scientist, George Bush on this one... Stuck a knife... really... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes just like senate who voted 100% against it and most likey on the advice of scientists like the organization of state climatologists and the historical weather records. Yes knife, figuratively speaking.

Islamic butchers? Exuse me, but last time I checked, the Israelites had the people of Palestine in prison conditions, didn't allow them to live on THEIR land, and killed them without remorse or reason. So you can kaibosh that idea you ignorant redneck. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok, but what about the those pesky facts.

That doesn't say much for the voters of Ont.

Chretien - Do Nothing PM No he did lots. HRDC scandal Strangled a protester had protesters pepper sprayed Useless gun registry Gomery scandal Tried to shut down gomery Signed the kyoto farce Stuck a knife in the back of our closest ally Stole 48 billion from UIC to balance the budget Was western secessions best salesman. Add on, hoodwinked the voters of Ont.

The US economy is a house of cards, set for a really, really bad fall. If it is, which it isn't, then it will fall right on our head. The economy of state of california for instance is equal to the entire country of france. Just to put things in perspective. Much has been made about the softwood lumber thing, and even that is only 3% of our entire trade with the US yet there are those who what to go off half cocked and risk an even more of that trade. I think we really have them over a barrel on this but everyone has played it the wrong way.

Bush declared a state of emergency before the strom even hit and was the one who told the mayor to evacuate the city. The state and local officials are suppose to have a plan. Which they did but never followed. They delayed evacuating the city they delayed calling in the guard. On top of all that you have all the people who wouldn't leave anyway and some that still won't.

Since a judge no less has now declared atheism as a religion, will the government now ban its cultural marxism tribunals of human wrongs that mascarade under the guise of human rights commissions.

These were probably the first folks to expose the UN for what it was, and for what it was to become. http://www.getusout.org/index.html

Right. Jolly good, then. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> These proceedings are now closed."