B. Max

The right wing should blame Bush. He approved this. So you admit the whole thing is a scam.

Every company gets tax deductions. What ever loans or grants they get would have to be evaluated on an individual bases.

CO2 is one of the "green house" gases. It causes the atmosphere to retain more heat. The warmer the planet gets the more polar and glacial ice is melted. This newly freed water once it makes its way to the ocean causes the sea level to rise. There's your connection. However that's simply not true. http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.ph...scare/#more-200 Figure 1 below shows that sea level has undoubtedly been rising for 6,000 years, and the rates seem rather monotonic. Quotes from throughout the Larsen and Clark paper are priceless. They state “the earlier part of the Dennis Creek reconstruction shows general agreement with the long-term rate of RSL rise at 2.0 mm/y until about AD 1750. The RSL trend then rapidly rises until the early 20th century, when it slows and tends to parallel the historic tide gauge record of 2.6 mm/y.” The Dennis Creek reconstruction had accelerated sea-level rise alright, but it occurred from AD 1750 to the early 1900s!

Oops on the thread title. Quite a turn around on policy here. What a load of nonsense. The polar bear is not endangered. Environmentalists hope that the move will therefore compel the Administration to force US industries into cutting greenhouse gas emissions. Exactly how will they cut their emissions. What do you do take your employees out and shoot them so they don't come back to work.

The latest is planting trees in the northern hemisphere causes global warming. We need to cut down more, especially if they are hurting and killing skiers. The Trees are warning Arnie to not listen. I did my duty and cut a few down around here this year.

And Calcutta's Jadavpur University says the islands have sunk because of rising sea levels. So what is causing the rising sea levels? Who knows. But at a couple of MM a year it's no big deal.

I read an article some where the other day and I didn't keep it, that stated 2002 has now been adjusted temperature wise so that it is now equal to 1998. If they are making adjustments or using better measurements then all should be adjusted likewise. No matter, I hope they get this thing working right. http://www.junkscience.com/GMT/index.htm

What are the subsidizes. If the oil companies turn off the tap, the government will pay the last dollar it has to get it turned back on. The oil companies spend billions of dollars every year to keep it all going.

The anti-climate change people have not been able to say for certain why the island has sunk and why the other Indians are headed that way. What has been ruled out is tectonic activity and anything that islanders were doing. One thing is certain, there are several more studies on sea levels being done now. I have not heard of tectonic activity and anything that islanders were doing being ruled out. As my post says, there is no connection between C02 and sea level rise.

The loser of course will be the average joe when political hacks who most likely couldn't even get a job in the real world get elected and think they can run the oil companies. I like the one about stopping some oil companies from bidding on oil leases. Don't they know that the fewer the bidders the cheaper the leases will go for. Or that the lower the reserves the more pressure it can put on supply and demand further driving up prices at the pump. In the war against the oil campanies the government really has no big guns. If the oil companies decide they've had enough they'll just turn off the switch and pull out. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/12...2636.shtml?s=ic

The local conditions is what the debate is all about. For the Indian island, it doesn't seem to be a localized incident. They can make all the claims they want. Proof is something else. http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.ph...scare/#more-200

This is where it comes from. I have no problem seeing it. Go to the graph I posted and at the bottom it says Sources, cites and data. then go to the bottom and click on Land Mean. Remeber the numbers about are the averages for a given year. Not peak anomalies. http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/NCDCabsLand.csv This is a good one. I read that some where else. It would seem as if you don't get the desired number you are looking for, just change the rules. Global Temperatures The 2005 global temperature was statistically indistinguishable from the standing record set in 1998. One data set, in use at NCDC since the late 1990s, produced a global annual temperature for 2005 that was slightly below 1998 (below left). An improved data set, which incorporates innovative algorithms that better account for factors such as changes in spatial coverage and evolving observing methods, results in 2005 being slightly warmer than 1998. (below right)

Congress was controlled in both houses by the Republicans. That's right, and because they didn't do everything that's right, they are no longer in control.

So move people. They are local events from local conditions.

Like I said, they must have the place well bugged. The America people don't have a lot of use for the UN. and as more Canadians are realizing what a corrupt outfit it is, they also want nothing to do with it. Well congress controls the purse strings. If they had of been any good they would have tossed it, assuming they had a chance.

Well not every one is convinced, or even that the artic or ant artic is warming unusally. Im sure we'll get the real story before long after all the hipe and scare mongering milage has been rung out of it. http://www.junkscience.com/mar02/AFP-Tuvalu.htm http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,172188,00.html

No, it's like everything else they try to fool the public. Blame it on global warming. They'll really be cranking this up. Plate tectonics at work: "The last tide could come at any time. Then these islands at the end of the Earth will simply vanish." - "Blame it on global warming or a submerged volcano. Either way, the low-lying atoll seems doomed - and it is not the only one." (London Times) True, the islands are subsiding. It's also true that they would be subsiding whether there had been an industrial revolution or whether humans had never discovered fire. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2513189,00.html

I didn't know that. However, other than the Bolton appointment and even that didn't turn out as I would have hoped, Bush has been a failure with the UN. I had hoped he would have had the place dismantled by now. Maybe it's case of keeping your enemies close and they have the place well bugged.

That's to bad. One Response to “Wikipedia Class Action Lawsuit?” Ron S. Says: June 23rd, 2006 at 8:28 am I don’t know about the law suit, but I am positive that it will happen again and again. Wikipedia is a clear case of the inmates talking over the asylum! It is run by organized volunteer super-nerds as though they were feudal lords! Just go on the site and see the nasty goings on for yourself. And they are at it twenty-four hours a day with a passion! Hansen and his no work computer models are mentioned by many others. They are always mentioned by those that are trotted out to promote the global warming scam. It always goes like this : our models show, or the models show. It is never explained that they are talking about computer models that don't match real time observations.

I thought you were a card carrying disciple. There is no consensus of scientific study as you would have it. There is Hansen and his computer models. A man who should be on trial for scientific fraud. http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.ph...itive/#more-107 How is the Wikipedia law suit for libel coming along.

The roof leaks on the palace. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/12...0336.shtml?s=lh

Yeah here we go with the smear tactics again, but the facts and the reality are to well known. Gorbachev, Strong, Gore the useful idiot all part of the cesspool of corruption and evil. They are the new Gnostic's. http://www.canadafreepress.com/2002/ed72202.htm http://www.earthcharter.org/files/charter/charter.pdf http://www.contenderministries.org/articles/earthcharter.php http://www.seanscreenplays.com/BeteNoireCD...ereligion1.html http://www.ucmpage.org/articles/mgonzalez3.html

Now that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. A cult? I'm now less intelligent having read that. If they were talking about the green energy industry that heavily sponsors studies into damning fossil fuels, then sure, I'll bite. But a secret cult because Ted Turner has a Captain planet cartoon on his channel that he's probably never seen and likely never approved??? Wow. Time for another Bailey's. Obviously you are not a UN watcher. Or a student of history. It has been well documented in numerous articles as to what they have been doing. This is one of the better ones. These people are like the early Christian Gnostic's who wrote their own gospels and professed that God was part of nature rather than set apart. Which are the beliefs of the founders of the Catholic church and is also protestant belief.

A majority of people have still not even seen the movie in North America. I'd say that most people have simply watched or read the news. Maybe, but they have certainly heard about it. I have seen bits and pieces of it. So lets take a look at what Al is really up to. He should be called the big Al Capone of the global warming scam. http://www.usasurvival.org/cultofgaia.html