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How recent is recent? I went to their website, and couldn't find anything about this. A $13.5m contract for a pidlyassed Canadian company and they aren't trumpeting it. What gives? I still have all kinds of contacts in the Canadian oilpatch, and this news would have been blasted around the insiders. http://www.snclavalin.com/news.php?lang=en

Nice to know you are independently wealthy.

Totally wrong.

I strongly believe that the NDP support will slowly drop while the Liberals slowly rebound. Think of the history of our country. As long as Harper keeps the CPC close to the center, it will still be a tough row to hoe.

Exactly. Mailpersons aren't a trade so don't deserve anywhere near the salary they get.

Rightly or wrongly, a law we have is that an order of a police officer is to be obeyed. We have ample opportunity to challenge that order in a peacefull way through the courts. The "protesters" are just there to make trouble. The biggest question I have always had is what the G-8/G-20 protesters are against, and what do they think they can accomplish? Losers.

Yup. A rich, successful productive guy gets pilloried by your ilk. Send his tax dollars to the US or the UK. Losers. Not a clue among you all. No wonder the economy is floundering.

So you condone criminal activity. Under what circumstances? And when isn't it? They broke the law. Let them rot in jail.

He probably thinks we should have transported them here, given them housing and having you and me support them for the rest of their lives. That's how "they" think.

When do the flying pigs get involved?

+/-2% is small potatoes. I'm talking production now, not potential. And given how fucked up they are, it will be ages before they could reach full potential. Look at Iraq. They are not producing 2/3rds of the oil they were before Desert Storm to this day.

Black mostly renounce the Chretin. Good on him for that.

Actually, Wiki is your friend. Libya is 17th in oil production, producing 2.1% of the world's oil. Small potatoes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production

To lazy to research it right now, but reserves and potential for production in the short to medium term are two very different things.

RO

You and I wouldn't because we are rational and not totally drunk (right now) or under the influence of drugs(right now). But most in jail are either irrational, did stupid things when totally hammered, or higher than a kite. The deterrent factor only works for sober, straight, rational people, which are a grand minority of criminals. So no, deterrence isn't a factor here. Either we want punitive or we want rehabilitation. I choose the latter.

He makes a rational statement and you blather on?

But we can't. All civil service DB pensions are a Ponzi scheme. Come to think about it, so are UAW pensions. Who will pay the grandfathered ones?

Realizing full well that some will argue, bringing up points not related to this, but look at Ireland before they let their banking stupidity ruin them. One of the lowest corporate taxes in the developed world, and they attracted industry and were a booming economy. The fall had nothing to do with corporate tax, it was because of lack of regulation of the finance sector. The thing that gets me the most is most "lefties" to use Derek L.'s term can't seem to understand that corporations, companies, conglomerates, whatever you want to call them get their money from you. If the government takes more of their money, they just take more of yours. You don't win, and sometimes you lose because they move to where the taxes are lower, and you lose jobs and that jurisdiction gains jobs. Think about it.

Whether they were successful or not aside, the concept of the US senate was to take the hard edge off "the tyranny of the majority". Yes, it has some downsides, but so does strict per capital influence.

One-Worlders, the UN, Aliens, the FSM. [/tinfoil hat]

You know, I have always wondered when Harper spouts his stuff, or Layton spouts his stuff, or when Iggy spouted his stuff, do they really believe it or are they pandering to their respective bases and lying to try and get more votes? In this case the whole "tough on crime" schtick prompted my rant.

As anti-socialist as I am, I find it hard to blame a bunch of asshole drunken youths on socialism. That is really a stretch, ES.

I wonder how much money they made.

I find it fascinating that "liberal" used to mean what we now think about non-wingnut libertarians. Small government, self reliance, free enterprise and so on. How that has drifted through the years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal