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Almost a year ago I first came to this forum and posted in response to what I thought was a one-sided portrayal by jbg slamming Arabs as lazy and corrupt while praising Jews as the leaders of innovation. Coincidentally this exactly mirrors the official Israeli Department of Education policy of doing the same thing portraying the Arabs as "refugees, primitive farmers and terrorists. You never see a Palestinian child or doctor or teacher or engineer or modern farmer." I debated with Jbg that Israeli success is a direct result of its free and democratic society which the Arabs have been prevented from having. To which Jbg replied: Others got involved including the an obvious Ann Coulter disciple, DogOnPorch, who aped her line "we should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." Oh what a difference a year makes. Jbg, and even I, could never have predicted that the Arabs would do exactly what jbg said they would never do overthrowing their "corrupt and oppressive garbage". Some peacefully like in Egypt and Tunisia others still bravely paying for their rights in blood in Syria and Libya. Has the Arab Spring changed anyone's opinion that Arabs want corrupt regimes?

Really everyone killed in the WTC attack was Jewish? I did not know that.

Really? It's not there? Well it is now.

The Arab countries' education system is notorious for its anti-Israeli slant, the worst probably being the horrible theocracy of Saudi Arabia. The Saudi education system controlled by the Wahabbism extremist House of Saud teaches that "Jews are descended from 'monkeys and pigs'" something that still is taught today. A brave Israeli academic, Peled-Elhanan, a professor of language and education at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem risked ostracization and being shut out of the rigid Israeli academe to study Israeli textbooks. She found that Israeli schools are doing similar things as the Saudis: And what is probably most surprising is the how the Israeli education system admits the Deir Yassin massacre: So is this indoctrination to demonize the Palestinian population justified because the Saudi's do worse?

Old News - Longest recorded sniper kills What you fail to mention is that the Canadian government totally screwed over these brave men 'We were abandoned'

The new generation of nuclear plants is using something like that: But again its only enough water for three days.

Well now that I think about it. Japan, and any nation with coastal N-Plnats, should have fast portable Diesel generator ships, that have enough power to keep the cooling systems going that can be launched on a few hours notice.

Nothing. If it sinks the water will cool the reactors and put them into cold shut down. Now if for some reason it runs aground and breaks up on the shore then, that's a different problem. But the same thing could be said about any American Aircraft carrier and I don't get the idea that these nuclear power plant ships will be traveling a lot. They seem to be more like barges. Towed to a protective harbor and flick the switch, presto instant emergency power. If only they were launched a year earlier they could have prevented this whole Fukushima disaster.

Russia is going to start building and selling floating nuclear fuel plants that can create enough electricity for 45,000 people and will have the added ability to purify sea water into fresh water. You could take this anywhere in the world and just set up a town with power and fresh water. Already a pioneer of nuclear powered ice breakers Russia has a proven track record with them although their civilian nuclear power industry is questionable and they've had multiple military nuclear disasters. If Japan had one of these when the earthquake struck they could have just floated to the plant and plugged in the cooling systems, problem solved. So a solution to our energy problems or floating Chernobyls?

You do realize that your trolling and attempting to bait me is incredibly ... well it's like a free ride when you've already paid and well just sad.

Jesus, Mosses, Mohamed don't have to be myths. There are plenty of crazy people who think they're talking to a higher being. José Luis de Jesús Miranda thinks he is the messiah, speaks with "God", and has millions of Christian followers.

So the British are bad because they were using collective punishment against a whole population because of the actions of a small violent extremist group. So are the actions of this Jewish terrorist group justified because they were fighting collective punishment?

So an extremist Jewish terrorist group doesn't represent the entire Jewish cause? So extremist Jewish groups' actions shouldn't be used to paint the whole culture?

You honestly don't believe that Muslims are the only ones who believe their religion is the only answer and try and spread their religion? The idiots in the pictures are on the same level as Ann Coulter who said "Bomb their cities, kill their leaders and convert the people to Christianity." The American military was caught trying to smuggle Bibles, that had been translated into Dari and Pashtu, into Afghanistan. Which sounds ridiculous but you know right now someone in Saudi Arabia is using that quote or the American actions as a representative of every Christian's intentions, to kill Islam. Right now there is a Muslim Saipan that is saying Christians want to convert us all and turn the world into a Christian state!

So stateless people killing an occupation force denying them their own state is a "legitimate" force of action? Many innocent people died in the King David hotel, them being killed is OK as long as the acting party is fighting against an occupation force? Killing hostages and bobby trapping their bodies in hopes of maiming their comrades is a "legitimate" force of action as long as they're fighting an occupation force?

No. Putting explosives in a hotel killing almost a hundred people or kidnapping peace keepers, killing them and then bobby trapping their bodies.

No she was only driven to suicide, I hope that makes you feel better.

So a minority of discredited Muslims that espouse an extremist agenda represent the whole of Islam but a minority of extremist Jews that espouse an extremist agenda are just "quirky"?

I'm sorry I didn't know there was a correct term for the killing of ones daughter in Judaism. So if it is not "Jewish honor (sic) killing" as you are the expert on Jewish culture you can tell us the correct term for murdering your child because they might follow a secular lifestyle?

Maybe you are just voicing your views that women can't be educated but the story that was recounted, was told by a WOMAN Sarit Barzilai. "Anthropologist Sarit Barzilai has studied former Haredimm ... she knows of, a father told his daughter he would rather kill her than see her become secular. She eventually committed suicide. "

As the link clearly shows its from the BBC. The quote is from an expert on these Jewish groups, Sarit Barzilai, although the article includes an account of a very brave women who was able to flee the Jewish extremists to freedom. In the same story Rabbi Noson Weisz talks about "he has only known four or five cases of people leaving [the extremist religious sects] in three decades of work, while he has seen thousands of Jews move from secular to religious lifestyles." So in addition to the high birth rate according to this Rabbi Noson Weisz not only are there very little cases of people escaping the Jewish lifestyle in fact there are many who join to live on an religious life where you focus on the religious texts, don't work.

So you're saying that Jewish ultra-religious movements don't reflect on all of Israeli society? Israeli-Arabs don't matter as once the religious parties have gained power they can execute, Foreign Minister Lieberman's present day plan, of stripping them of Israeli citizenship and moving them out of the country so as to maintain the religious purity of the mother state.

Due to these communities being totally cut off from the rest of Israeli society there is no exit for these youth. They are trapped in the lifestyle. They don't read the news, watch TV and refuse to work. Already they are 10% of Israel's population and growing every year. So to Bob's assertion that these communities "opposition to public buses running on Shabbat, or how in certain sections of Jerusalem there is a quasi-official segregation on public buses based on gender" we can add Jewish honour-killing of young females who stray from the path.

So your argument is that the actions of an extremist minority don't reflect on the religion as a whole?

It started with Israeli papers and now even New York papers are removing women from their media. The extremist Jews "simply does not believe that women should have a public life, or even vote." With the population demographics its only a matter of time before the religious parties start eliminating women from public life, disfranchising them, and taking away all their rights.