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what are you trying to get at here american woman? are you against the establishment of a palestinian state? are you saying that the palestinians should pack up and leave and find an arab country to settle in?

shady has unintentionally become the stephen colbert of the forum.

zionism is an ideology. it's true that there are different subcategories, but the main agenda is what i have a problem with. which is accepting and justifying the removal of one group of people in order make room for another. that's fucked up. there is a reason why there are over 1 million stateless people crammed in refugee camps around the world for the past 60+ years. it's because of zionism. however, it is now 2011. there is no question whether israel has a right to exist (at least not by me and most of the world). the country of israel has been established (though under a questionable systematic approach) and it is here to stay. so if you continue to become hysterical, fling shit and cry that i'm against the existence of israel, i will continue to tell you to take your meds. why are you, rue, a self-proclaimed moderate zionist, are not putting your full backing into establishing a palestinian state? why are you not condemning the real extremists like bob and the current israeli government for doing everything in their power to not allow a palestinian state? if you're not able to back the establishment of a real and just palestinian state, you're just another bob. except that bob is a little more honest about who he really is.

zionism enables some jews to turn into the people who persecuted them.

what a stupid comment.

Orchestra suspends four musicians who opposed Israeli musicians' concert London Philharmonic Orchestra punishes cellist and violinists who wanted Proms appearance by Israeli players cancelled The LPO suspended cellist Sue Sutherley and violinists Tom Eisner, Nancy Elan and Sarah Streatfeild until June 2012 after they signed a letter as members of the LPO denouncing the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra (IPO) as an instrument of the country's propaganda. It said: "Denials of human rights and violations of international law are hidden behind a cultural smokescreen. The IPO is perhaps Israel's prime asset in this campaign … Israel's policy towards the Palestinians fits the UN definition of apartheid." Other signatories of the letter, which appeared in the Independent newspaper two days before the concert, included: the composer Raymond Deane; violinists Catherine Ford and Roy Mowatt (of the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment); violinist Susie Meszaros (of the Chilingirian Quartet); and 16 other musicians. link

it's in his profile.

he's a 'Far-Right-Wing Ultra-Nationalist Extremist' jew.

i agree with you.

he wants to end the federal government's role in the above that you've listed and allow the states to adopt their own rules and regulations. it would be a huge change and some would say even impossible to implement such a change and overhaul the system.

the main reason american woman doesn't support ron paul is because of his stance on the unconditional support for israel.

i can remove the (s). your empty accusations against me and rabid rage doesn't change the fact that the pkk is a terrorist organization and lieberman has said he wants to support it as payback against turkey. this information is fact and not an opinion. your drivel will no longer be responded to until you are able to show where i have advocated terrorism against israel or accept that you are repeating bs.

palestinians' bid for a state does not request that israel would be wiped off the map. i'm not sure why you continuously cry about 'israel's right to exist' whenever someone promotes a palestinian state. the palestinian state would be alongside an israeli state. i urge you to read my comments a few times before pressing reply and going into another tantrum and false accusations. good luck.

the title of this thread is 100% true. the israeli foreign minister wants to support PKK, a terrorist group.

curious to know what it is about sharia law that is barbaric towards women. the first source i looked at was from wikipedia and the only difference i see as far as the rules it he amount of inheritance a woman would receive as opposed to her brothers. otherwise, women can do pretty much anything men can do. so tell me what it is about sharia law and its relation to women that disturbs you.

of course i supported the delivery of aid, which was all the flotillas had, to the people of gaza. one good thing came out of the tragic event was that the spotlight on israel's excessive respond and the international community's pressure forced israel to ease the blockade at least a little bit. it also magnified israel's, especially the current government's, character and the level respect it has for international law right before the bid of a palestinian state. nazi germany also claimed to act in its own best interest. i don't care if your ideal is the light version of bob's. israel, just like more other states have an obligation to following international law. they are signatories to and obligated to follow them, including the fourth geneva convention.

why don't you bring in the substance you believe the thread lacks instead of a rue-esque tantrum.

it is ironic that many of you fanatical zionists echo the nazi regime's explanation for their government's acts of injustice. then proclaim that people around the world should look away and keep to themselves and pretend a militarily dominating group is not treating another group as subhumans who do not deserve respect and to live in freedom.

how you feel is irrelevant. israel is a signatory to the geneva convention and is a member of UN. if they don't care to follow international law, then they should get out of the UN. this is the problem with you fanatics. israel is never wrong in your eyes. israel is above all the rules. you sit there and complain about palestinian heritage when israel itself is less than a 100 years old, made up of people who have migrated from around the world to the middle east, with most of them from europe. you set two different rules and standards. the world doesn't care if you think you should be treated differently or if you feel you're above the law. the tragedy of the holocaust has been milked long enough. the time has come for the palestinians to stop being the victims of what the europeans did to the jews and it's time for the palestinians to have the rights every other person deserves. what do you mean it makes no sense? who are you to tell a group of people that they don't have basic rights? all parties are obligated to respect the rights and other nations are obligated to make sure that nations and groups do as well. this is one of the reasons why the UN was created after one of the worst tragedies in the past 200 years. looking at hamas' history, they have slowly improved their tactics. they resemble the jewish terrorist organizations who committed acts of terrorism before israel was created. begin started out as the leader or a terrorist organization and went on to become the prime minister of israel.

west bank, gaza and east jerusalem is not your home.

the area between northwestern iran, northeastern iraq and southern turkey is predominantly kurdish and i am not opposed to kurdish state. turkey has stepped up and has improved its treatment of the minority kurds since the 1990's and well before erdogan came to power. this is mostly due to the pressure from the EU and turkey's turn towards a better and more democratic country. at the same time, what turkey has done in the past including major human rights violations and use of chemical weapons against the kurds, despite pkk's terrorist activities, cannot be excused. so i have no problem condemning turkey for any and all human rights violations. i don't defend terrorism. i can't defend PKK's acts of terrorism just like i can't defend hamas' acts of terrorism. now tell me if you support or condemn the israeli foreign minister's support for this terrorist organization.

so without UN's recognition, there would be no israel. thanks for recognizing that. so how about israel's recognition and ratification of the geneva convention?

Lieberman is also planning to set meetings with the heads of Kurdish rebel group PKK in Europe in order to “cooperate with them and boost them in every possible area.” In these meetings, the Kurds may ask Israel for military aid in the form of training and arms supplies, a move that would constitute a major anti-Turkish position should it materialize. link the self created quicksand israel finds itself in is sinking israel a lot faster with lieberman as its foreign minister. with the current government, israel is unable to do anything right. they've become nothing more than a rogue state.

except that you're wrong and how you feel is irrelevant. israel ratified the geneva convention in 1951. the ICJ re-affirmed that the fourth geneva convention applies in this conflict. also, it was the UN that created israel which israel is a member of.

both you and wild bill need to improve your reading comprehension and do a little more research before pressing reply. there have been 3 reports with the UN on its title: - one from UNHRC that found the blockade illegal - one so-called the palmer report that found the blockade legal - this latest one from an UN independent panel that found the blockade illegal there are other organizations like the international red cross who have also found the blockade to be illegal.