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Black Dog i don't think its our duty as individuals to enforce Gods Laws . as you know fornication is a sin punishable by death also and if Gods laws was enforced now we would have almost nobody left . I must warn though that Jesus Christ when king of planet earth will rule with a rod of Iron . Rod of Iron i assume does mean capital punishment for these transgressions . I really don't Beleave the jesus i see in the bible is going to run around and hug every body regardless of what they want to through in his face . I'll Bet you there will be no gay pride paraides in The Kindom of God . Maybe in Paul Martins Kingdom , but in Jesus Christ Kingdom things will be different. Apparently Paul Martin don't Beleave in God. Augest why do i think these quotes are Gods opinions ? read lev 1:1 and as far as pauls writings read Gal: 1:11-12

99% of christianity has left its roots .and they wasn't european find a christmas celebration in the bible ? Oh YA JERM: 10 find any part of most modern christian beleafs and you will surprise me. Does make you wonder if you think about it , why is there such an effort to hide whats really in the bible? Why would you need to twist and distort an old book of fables ? You wouldn't the reason for all the twisting has got to be they are hideing something.

I have seen no reason to beleave thats not God inspired Writings . The more I look it over I know it is!

Thou shalt not lie with mankind ,as with woman kind :It is an abomination! Lev11:22 If a man also lie with mankind,as he liet with a woman ,both of them have commited an abomination ;they shall surely be put to death :their blood shall be upon them lev:20 13 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lust of their own hearts ,to dishonour their own bodies between themselfs: Who changed the truth of God into a lie ,and worshipped and served the creature more then the creator ,who is blessed forever AMEN : For this cause God gave them up to vile affections for even their women did change the naturaul use into that which is againnst nature : And like wise also the men leaveing the natural use of the woman ,burned in their lust one toward an other :men with men working that which is unseemly ,and recieving in themselfs that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge ,God gave them over to reprobate mind ,to do those things which are not convenient. Being filled with all unrightousness ,fornication wickedness ,covetness maliciousness ,deciet malignity ,whisperers. Backbiters ,HAters ofGOD ,despitefull .proud ,boasters ,inventers of evil things ,disobediant to parents , without understanding ,covenant breakers ,without natural affection ,implacable ,unmerciful . WHO KNOWING THE JUDGEMENT OF GOD ,that they which commit such things are worthy of DEATH ,not only do the same ,but have pleasure in them that do them. rom1:24-32 I think alot of us know Gods opinion.

Im not racist in any way . im friendly with any friendly person regardless of colour or even sexual orintation. The reason im against gay marriage is simple , I fear God ! I beleave he exist and I beleave certain things make him angry .Not only Gay Marriage mind you , but it does seem to be the last thing a society will accept as normal before they go to the point of no return. The people that wrote our constution i suspect feared God too , and i truely beleave a judge to rule in favour of gay marriage knows they are distorting what the original writers beleaved in . Godlessness has set in and we are watching the results . All is well if God does not Exist , but What if He does ? Did not Paul in Romans 1 predict the times we are in ? Did not most of the Prophets of old time predict the times we are in ?Ever look at the final results? According to the bible in Isaiah 3 Gods wrath is poored out on the earth by taking our wise men ,our captains of 50, the honourable man ,the judge , ect . When i look at our goverment today and our judges i beleave we have reached that point. Any judge in my opinion should know that treatys between Whites and first nations was to gareentee equal rights . Yes let us be Equal ! But Now days our foolish judges have ruled something else . We the whites are a actually becoming second class citazens or in some cases nothing but peasants with no hope of anything else . Paul Martin i think is a fool , but then i guess i know according to Isaiah 3 these times would come.

If i was an Albertan id support the local seperation party . But im on the east coast so not much can be done except grin and take it. This country needs to take a turn to the right its been left too long but we can't get it because ontario don't want a albertan taking the lead. So Canada now leads the world in a decay of moral principles and on we go.

Jonathan loved David as he loved his own soul take the word loved to hebrew and you get (to have affection for) (sexual OR OTHERWISE) remember or otherwise it could mean just good friends . I think most know David was very much a hetrosexual . So much so that when he seen belsheba ,he wanted her so bad that he plotted to kill her husband so he could have this very attractive woman. When david was old they had a beauty contest and the winner a young lady was put in bed with him. Seems nobody that knew him figgured he was lusting for a man ,they picked a woman. Calling David a homosexual is adding alot to scriptures that is not there ! Davids big sin was lusting for a woman so bad he killed her husband.

Makes you wonder who we aborted ! I don't know figgures on Canada , but i heard America has aborted 33,000,000 babies . My guess would be 33,000,000 faithfull flag waveing americans . To make up the gap so they can keep their economy going with the baby bomers heading into old age they open their door 's . But they got liberals too , and they say only open our doors to minorities . So next thing you know america needs a department of homeland security to protect it from Americans that would burn their own flag . I was in LA a while ago and a old black guy came up too me and said YOU SPEAK ENGLISH? was not many of us there . Our sins will catch up to us some day , when we have to protect our selfs from our selfs . I don't care who comes , but try to get the ones who like us. Them aborted Babies i suspect would of stood with us , then you have to ask who did we abort ? Our Wiseman? Our men of Honour ? time will tell !

well im a white hetrosexual male and i been getting the feeling lately that we been desinated sub humans . alot of goverment positions now they don't want us . And one time a few years ago I :angry: called the department of human rights about being discriminated against . the answer was . yes sir you are being discriminated against BUT . Your not native nor Black and your not a woman and we are only here to serve minioritys . Can a white hetrosexual male be discriminated against or are we always just the guilty party?

Isn't that adding alot too it daniel? wanting it to be there when its not!

the will of God ? yes he has one as Jesus said he came to do his Fathers will and not his own will . What is it? In my opinion its to teach man not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil ,and to instead beleave on the tree of life . he gave us 6 days to do our work , 6000 years he is letting man govern this old rock . hes kind of setting back letting us do our work . (law making) remember Christ never came to bring peace regardless of all the peace on earth songs we sing .(he will in the future read micah4) God said the day we eat of that tree we shall surely die , to prove his point hes letting man govern this earth (with the help of the spirit world) he lets us go to the point if he did not stop it we all would die . But then comes the day of rest . 1000 years of God ruling the earth with the evil spirit world locked up .(he could of locked the evil spirits up in the beginning) (he wanted this earth decieved)(to show where it leads without his goverment) we distroy the earth with our knowledge , he makes the earth a perfect place with his knowledge . then it will be easy to beleave in him. People don't understand the will of God ,because they don't understand THY KINGDOM COME . they don't understand because most churches are there to keep you from understanding . Go read rev 5 ; 9-10 think about it , the kings and priest of the earth? read rev 11 , behold the kingdoms of this world are the kingdoms of our lord. Most Christian churches are here to confuse you ,so you will not know the will of God , as you might beleave it . MYSTERY BABALON(confusion) THE GREAT = modern christianity ,its here just like fortold THY KINGDOM COME <THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN .......................its not here yet daniel 2 :44 is not here yet , we are suppose to pray for it to come and fix this old world .with all its evils . we had to see this world ,or we would never have beleaved in the world of tommorow!

Ishmael shall be a wild man .............................................................................!

What would you do if you was running Isreal? Surrounded by millions that want you gone (drive them in the ocean) , liveing with people that strap bombs on and target whom ever they can get (children,ladys ,what ever ). Knowing that the forces of evil in history wanted to erase you from the earth. How would you run things? wonder what it would be like if Isreal only had sticks to fight with? Good post Scotty!

Well i guess i always thought the global warming thing was a bunch of bull as im on the east coast and winters do seem to be getting worse . But then the other day i read an article claiming that global warming would actually make the east coast colder by affecting the gulf streams flow with fresh water from ice melting running into the ocean.I think they predicted in 5 years or more N.S . would have weather like siberia . Now after this weeks snow storm , and watching our bay freeze over last year for the first time any body could remember im starting to wonder if Global warming isn't for real. They was predicting that we would be fighting for food in like 5 years so maybe i better start listening to the global warming stories.

Most in this society now days have given up looking to the bible as a source of picking right from wrong. But if one did they could find way better arguements for allowing polygamy then for allowing gay marriage . I don't know of a case in the bible of homosexual union being ok with men of God . But you do see many cases of polgamy with men who was friends of God involved . Isreal had 4 wives , Abraham had 2 , solomon had 700 and on the list goes . But where did homosexuality ever bring anything but Gods wrath ? When we see Hindue India actually haveing to remind Canada of what is morally right you wonder how close we are getting to the haircut of ezekiel 5 . I guess what it comes down too is does the great barber in the sky exist ? And if he does how much is he going to take before he gives us a haircut. Sounds like we have got to the point spoken of in ezekiel 5:6

Well in evolution their is so many things you just have to ignore. Is there a spirit world ? don't sooth sayers sometimes get hired with tax payers money ? don't we have people with multiple personalities just like found in the bible? Is there not evedence of unexplained dreams fortelling the future ? my own mother seen her brother die in a car accident before it happened when they came to tell her she knew what they was to tell her . In my small circle of life ive met many who tell simular storys ,all unexplained by our science comunity all ignored . GO TO A UNITED penticostal church some night if you don't beleave in a spirit world and watch the show put on . I think you will be watching a pack of demons , but i doubt if you would come out of there thinking you saw nothing . When i was searching the religous world i use to visit such places just to see if there was something there , ya there was !!!!!! But it was not God , their voices even changed to deep horse voices . some was vibrating in the floor in unhuman ways . Try one of these side shows put on by the spirit world , try one of the ministers knocking people on their backs ,see if they can do you ? In the bible in Gods presence you fell on your face , but these ones fall on their backs , its not God . but go see if there is something there you might get a surprise . evolution might have numbers way bigger then 1/100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 but with a real search of the religous world i think you come home with 100% yes there is something there .

The Real biblical holy days , the ones kept by the real church of the bible have hidden meanings . They Shadow Gods plans for this earth . Its taught clearly in Scripture . Paul told the real church in Col 2 their Holy days and sabbaths shadowed or fortold things to Come . He warned the real Christians in Col 2 not to Accept traditions or Doctrines of Men or they would parish (lose eternal life). He was implying that these True Holy(God Made) Days was very important . With a study of the Old testament you will find The God of this universe found these days and sabbaths he created as very important stuff , so important it was one of the main ways to raise him up in anger .He never wanted them forgoten as they had hidden meanings for mankind. Today 99% of so called christian ministers teach we should forget These God Ordained Holy days that had hidden meanings and accept their version of Holy days or ones with out God involved in the Creation of . Forget Gods Days with the hidden meanings Accept some we borrowed from Godless men and put christ name too . Even Sunday keeping has no orgins in Scripture , its all a man made perversion of a commandment of God . God wrote 10 commands in Stone ,and according to Scripture men only have to lead you to break one and you might as well break them all . One of them is the Sabbath . So modern ministers will teach 9 of these 10 commands in most cases but subtly decieve you into breaking this one command of God almighty . Man has no right to make Days holy or to Chose Sabbaths as they are Road maps to truth . Any Christian minister leading you to forget Gods Holy days and Sabbaths is Not lead by the spirit of TRUTH. I don't even Cosider Churches That follow Rome instead of God as being in the slightest from God . Their here to discorage this world and lead folks astray .

Which day Did Jesus Christ Keep? ever read 1st peter 2;21

Just got back from the sea ,4 days , so my mind is not working the best to address this topic .Ill try to do better someday soon when im not over tired. What proof could we ever find to beleave in a God ? Well i think we all got to admit the mathmatical chances of evolution are not even sensible for a beleaf system , that this road can only be taken serious by someone who don't want a God ,would rather have freedom from all lawmakers . Or who just plain would beleave any thing others come up with . Ive heard that even Darwin could not beleave so many accepted his far out theories as facts , It was Just like They would accept any thing so as to shed an obligation to a higher power. I think there is proof of a God i think we all got to admit with a close look at nature that it was designed and could not of come by time and chance , things like the bee helping the plants ,the migration of birds , and many other things surely look like a perfect design .I know even in my own life as a fishing captain and watching the eco systems of our oceans i beleave its got to be created , it surely could not of come from nowhere with no design. But to me there is even more proof then that of there really being a God , i would say the bible itself is the biggest proof of there being a God , and this God is the one known by abraham ,isac ,and jacob. To start with if you look close at the bible nothing on this planet is out of place from what the bible predicts its hitting every thing right on . Even the attitudes of some on this forum have been fortold by scripture (romans 1) . with close study of the bible you will see the bible is hitting right on in fortelling the worlds conditions thousands of years in advance of when it happens . For a Little Exsample just look at Rev 11 :9 .remember that was wrote 2000 years ago and it is fortelling mass media . its telling you there would be a time that all the earths peoples could see one event take place at one time in one place no matter where they are . TV or CNN fortold 2000 years ago , back when it was wrote most would never dream john was putting truth to paper to fortell mass media . Nothing is out of place , every thing is happening as the bible fortells . one other point if the bible is just a foolish old book with nothing but fairy tales like some beleave ,then why is there so much effort put into people twisting its message or hideing its message . if its all lies why not just all agree on what it says ? In our modern world we probly got like 1000 doctrines of christianity all useing the same book , all with their own twist . even this is fortold in the bible in rev 17 , MYSTERY BABALON THE GREAT = confusion the great or modern christianity , the mother lives in 7 hills (ROME HAS SEVEN HILLS) . The merchants of the earth wax rich with her delicacies , CHRISTMAS ,EASTER , HALOWEEN make our merchants rich and none of them have their orgins in the pages of our bibles ,they are all creations of the mother church forcing herself on pagan s . and instead of stopping their unchristian rituals she christianised them . Shes a Whore , its all in the bible . Before people throw their bibles out as a foolish old book i just wish they would for themselfs look at the promises of the bible , WHO WOULD WANT THEM NOT TO BE TRUE . Go look at chapters like micah 4 , isaiah 11 , zech 14 , the last 2 chapters of rev . don't pay know attention to all the fools who carry bibles . READ ONE FOR YOURSELF . The fools who carry bibles are there to discorage you from reading one ,don't let it happen. REmember Christ Gospel , Was thy Kingdom Come . Today most ministers don't even know this . The problem with most beleaveing the bible .I think its ment to be that way ,go read rev 5 ; 9-10 thats the song the real overcoming saints sing in the future . Is it possible that this whole world as we know it is only for the spring harvest (the Kings And Priest) the great fall harvest is later . most christian churches will hide this from you . They don't want the bible to start making sence . REMEMBER here a little ,there a little ,line upon line prciept upon preciept . some of these lines was wrote 100s of years apart but yet you get the whole story only when reading both writers . Daniel and Rev fit together wrote hundreds of years apart , but one needing the other to be unlocked . I beleave the Bible is not here for all to understand now , its only for those of you out there thats got the eyes and ears , those of you chosen By our heavenly FATHER to set on the thrones of this earth for eternity. WHY Is gOD JUST SETTING BACK and not fixing the earths problems ,,,,,,,,,IT IS WRITTIAN , its fortold that way . Hes letting us do some governing this world before he forces his goverment on us , thats the best way for us to learn to beleave in him . for him to let us see a world with out him taking control first . This earth now is being controled by the Father of lies ,now lets just see where it will lead . In the Future that old Serpent is Locked up ,and the earth will be full of the knowledge of the Lord ,,,, THY KINGDOM COME Most christian churches are there to hide this clear biblical message from us .Proof God Exist !

http://www.cemnetwork.com/essay/essay.php?eid=54 A GOOD ESSAY on hell fire , for all those wondering what the bible does teach on the subject

a man named Ron Dart has a set of tapes out called who owns palistine? it goes through every fact like a court case , i think it does a good job at telling both sides of the arguement . you should be able to order these tapes on this web site http://www.cemnetwork.com

Islam= Arabs religion Arab= Ishmael ,or the son Abraham had by hagar or the maid Islam claims she was a queen but truth is she was Sarahs Maid , Sarah was getting old and God had promised her children but she was still baren . So her and Abraham took matters into their own hands ,or should i say there faith wavered. So Abraham went in Hagar and brought us Ishmael Ishmaels blessing in the bible = Ishmael shall be a wild man ,his hand against every man and every mans hand against him. So because Sarah and Abraham Doubted God we get the trouble maker of the earth .

Ive heard that if you loaded a truck with all the materials in a house and backed up slamming the breaks on till you built a house ,you would have better chances then a human body evolveing . don't sound sensible to me . even after billions of trys i doubt you could get a house by just dumping the materials . then when you start looking at how nature fits together a rational thinker would have to conclude it was designed. then when you study the bible and relise the bible is hitting right on when fortelling the future . nothing is out of place . who ever wrote the bible had to either be able to see the future or in the least control the future . it all makes sence if you hear the whole story .

I think the reason alot are so quick to throw out God beleaf And buy into the evolving explanation is most cannot understand why God allows so much wrongs on this earth . Why Does he allow Disease ? Why War? Why Children being Murdered ? and so on ,so at that point instead of searching to find an answer that makes sence they just throw out God and accept evolution and all its missing facts ? Also they go and look into the religous world and in most cases????????? .

What it Comes Down too, is there a God ? Or is there not a God ? Should we make up our own God to suit our lust and desires ? Or Should we accept the God of the Old and new testament of our bibles ,The one who is suppose to be the same yesterday ,today and forever ? I think we all know the God of the Bible was against Homosexuality as well as many other things . So are we just going to get rid of him and the bible ?Or will we make up our own God to suit what ever life styles we chose to live ? What ever you want to do is ok if there is no God , Or if The god that exist is a very easy going type Guy that just loves every body regardless of what they want to throw in his face . BUT WHAT IF THE GOD OF OUR BIBLES DOES EXIST ? Whats gone out of this society , is FEAR OF GOD . Thats ok if hes all just a myth , but i in my beleafs Think he does exist , and that he changes not . I can't like some make up a God to fit what ever society calls for , I fear the One of our old testaments is coming to this earth someday , and he will have it done his way !