Digby

I guess i should Explain a little more the reasons why millions of lbs of fish get discarded in canadian waters every year , its only one reason fish being worth less then greedy liberals charge for the quota .Not the main Reason . ITQ = Individual Transverable Quota an individual actually owns a share of the tac (total alowable catch) . they own the fish swiming in our waters before they are caught . This is a system based on the New Zealand system ,which like ours has been a complete disaster for fisheries resources , i heard ornge roughy is almost extint in new zealand because of this very corupt way of governing fishing resources. The Americans i beleave have outlawed this system . The Canadian system used the years 1987 -1991 as the years for decideing who would own Canadas fish for eternity , your best 2 years out of these four was used to decide you would forever own these fish resources . Most fishing licences in them years where not owned by fishermen but where owned by processing plants in reality ,sometimes with fishermen only being figgure heads with agreements with processing plants in lawyers offices . Whats wrong with this System ? 1) the team of men that went to new zealand to study their system , after seeing the results of ITQ came back to Canada and secretly started prepareing for the future , they went to the rich and powerfull told them what the future held and even recieved secret ownership in some of the companies in return . These companies with this knowledge of the future , set out scareing fishermen away from their licences , telling them the future would be very bleak they started offering good money for the pieces of paper . In a short while a handfull of men held almost all paper . They would buy a boat and paper , insure the boat for value of paper and boat ,then the boat would go up in smoke ,and insurance compaies would buy these people free paper . Also Some of these Men Ran into Rich Powerfull Men in Boston Mass (mofia) who had much laudered money that needed to be used , this was a perfect place for laudered money as this paper even though worth millions had no traceable value , one of these papers was way better then haveing cold cash as they was for eternity . Very Shortly The Boston Mofia secretly owned a good share of Canadas Fish , they did this through Canadian Figure Heads . Almost all fish rights was scarred out of fishermen by these men that knew this papers real value . There was storys of Fishermen being offered 750,000 Cash in the night on the end of Warfes in a brief case for their paper . the problem with all this ,is it lead to a complete uncareing attitude by most fishermen , the young men would think ,well if our fish are going to be owned by the american mob for eternity who cares , Who Cares if its all distroyed . 2) the catch history data of the years 1987 -1991 was all lies , I was a trawler captain in them years , beleave me I LIE NOT , it was all lies . Fishermen presured in most cases by land loveing business men who owned their boats would steal boat loads of cod , and pollack . there was very little enforcement in them days ,and the ones stealing alot became very rich and made others beleave in dishonestly . so it was 4 years of much lieing and cheating . But the fish was not sold for cash , so fishermen had to explain where this money was coming from . they would mark a boat load of cod as blackback flounder , or maybe red fish as no quota on these spieces in them years . lie after lie in the log books , hardly any thing was true in these log books . Along comes the goverment and issues historical quotas on these books of lies , Guys who never caught any Black backsor red fish got huge blackback and red fish quotas .once on paper it was very valueable. A itq holder sells the quotas to working fishermen for 1/2 the value of the fish in most cases . most of them have not owned a boat in over ten years they draw 100,000 to 500,000 dollars a year off these pieces of paper , some i suspect can draw 2-3 million a year without leaveing their house . The fishermenmostly can't make a cent . the end result though was boats being ordered to catch these large red fish and blackback flounder quotas that now exist from our lies , these fish never existed . So now fishing boats fish harder then ever before , they have no cod quota much ,so are made to fish for blackbacks or redfish . Blackbacks live on Cod bottom , so a boat may be ordered to fish in cod to bring in a trip of blackbacks . instead of putting 20,000-30,000 lb of cod aboard and calling it aweek , he now stays4-5 days pitching the cod over board dead scraping for these blackbacks his owners are forceing him to find in the ocean . When i was a trawler Captain , there was no way out of discarding ,i would set in the wheel house with tears in my eyes watching as we cut our own throat . watching corrupt goverment blame the seals and foriegn boats . The ITQ QUOTA system is a night mare we can't stop , these men drawing the 200,000 to 1,000,000 with no boats will not let it stop , they send lieing lobiest to evry fishery meating and deny the discarding , they lie and say this system is working ,when truth is it is a night mare! I got out of the trawling as i never had the morals for discarding , but i know them trawler captains are not the guilty , its goverment and itq owners . most fishermen have become littlemore then modern day slaves to ITQ holders .

Had a guy fishing with me last year who told me the best time he ever had was the few months he spent in jail ,told me he liked it in there . Said the first night there they had a big party said him and a other guy smoked like 17 joints the first night in . Thatswhat he told me honest! Also a few years ago a local Drug dealer was hauled off to prison or so we all thought . I landed in St. John New brunswick one trip fishing ,and this local drug dealer who we all thought was in prison came down aboard my boat , he was selling stolen footwear , seems he and some friends was breaking in shoe stores while he was suppose to be in prison . Reality was they had him in a halfway house where he met many fellow crooks to run around with . Also a few weeks ago i met another who was hauled off for drug trafficing . He said the best thing ever happend to him was getting sent to prison , while in prison he met up with other crooks who had lots of money ,when he got out of prison they set him up in crooked business and gave him lots of funds for capital , prison took him from rags to riches .

A friend of Mine a few years ago put in for a goverment Job a few years ago , it was for a trafic controller in the bay of fundy ,the job was located in st John .New Brunswick . He got called infor an Interveiw , Or should i say an Apology . He was Told that he was the Highest Qualified person to have ever applied for this job , he had been a captain working the bay , he had large tickets , university degrees ect . The Guy Handing out the Job Told Him I can not beleave this but i can't hire you even though you are the most highly qualified to have ever applied , you can't speak french , so to tell you the truth i got to hire an idiot from quebec with no qualifacations im truely sorry . I been fishing the Bay of fundy all my life and ive never heard ships who could only speak french or even useing french . So thats the country we live in , if it comes down to an idiot that can speak french ,or a highly qulified english only person competeing for goverment jobs , the french will win over the brains !

Im actually Voteing NDP this election got their signs on my lawn . Why ? Its only because of the local canidate , im finding it hard to vote ndp as im more of a right wing christian value type person . The Local canidate Arthur Bull was the president of our bay of fundy inshore fishermans association , he has been to meeting representing smaller fishermen for years . I beleave he is anti trawler , anti ITQ quotas(the worse system ever came up with by mankind) i beleave he would be our areas best voice in ottawa so hes getting my support . But i must admit i like some of the things i hear coming from the conservative camp and i almost feel guilty for voteing ndp , as im pro american , anti abortion , against gay marriage . I don't agree with the loseing of the laws of pot (I Work withPot Heads in the FisherY ,we don't need more of them) . Im against most goverment jobs being handed ot to french speaking people . Im scarred what ndp immigration laws would be like . I truely am haveing second thoughts about my decision to vote NDP .. But is Harper and that Gang really different then the conservetives of old , Brian maronies Goverment was just as corrupt as these liberals , this system called ITQ quota was actually thought up by Conservetives like John Crosby . who was only serving big fishing companies desires . Ive actually thought about going conservitive and not supporting this local NDP canidate who i know would support small business fishermen . I truely would rather Have some westerners with some power , its got to be better then many many quebecers haveing the powerfull seats of our land . If I was an Albertan instead of A Nova Scotian , id truely be tired of all the quebec bullshitt , and all the goverments just thinking about quebec and ontarios problems . If i knew Harper and his Gang was really into Honesty , Id have no choice but to Take down my NDP signs ,and go conservative . When you see NDP signs on my lawn you know im desperatly wanting Change . Im Voteing Against alot of My morals , because i don't trust anybody any more , im only voteing for this local ndp canadate who lives close by, and has set with small fishermen before .Ill Admit i feel guilty for voteing NDP , as I know i could never agree with alot of their policies . id like to see this local ndp canidate win , but im hopeing its a conservative minority goverment ,with a strong NDP Influence , And a bunch of Liberal Losers , the liberals got to go ,they been there too long too much corruption .

that only works Blair if there is no God , If there is one we better buy his Book

Nobody Corrupt west of Quebec? well thats good to hear i guess there is hope . I know most things in our world are now corrupt and moralless ,the problem in a democracy is that when a good part of the population becomes corrupt ,they will stand and allow corrupt goverment . I think history would reveal that corrupt goverment leads to a collapse of society . And i Know Changeing our goverment may not be the answers to all of our problems . I only think it would slow it down , as with 10 -12 years of liberal goverment , liberal crooks have built nice nests , liberal companies have done very well , its time fore change and to let a different bunch of crooks take the helm ,or the strong liberals will own canada and the rest of us will be their monkeys . I guess I know its a down hill slide from here . I kind of got an anger in me against the liberal goverment ,because of Robert Thebeau, as you know he was minister of fisheries before Reagan , Being our MP in this rideing most of us small fishermen thought he would be an answer to our problems , we thought with a minister of fisheries right here in our rideing he would see the wrongs in our area and fix some of them, he would actually be a saviour for us small business fishermen . Unlike other minister of Fisheries he was close enough to know the truth of our rideing , I myself as well as other fishermen went to his office many times , He was told about the massive Dumping of Cod , He was told by many witnesses , Hes not blind . To our Surprise things got worse , He sided with the rich that was causeing the distruction , even though he knew reality , my conclusion was he had to be on the take ,and very corrupt . He allowed our Fishery to be distroyed in his rideing , when he was Minister of fisheries , by a few that was finaceing his Campains , DISCUSTING!

The Maritime Elite Was Bought off , the wise men of our last generation beleaved in the liberal goverment of old times . And the first thing done was to buy off last generations wise men . One of these older maritime wise men approached me one day , seems hes getting older and preparing for death is becoming almost as important as bank account balances . His Statement Was : I never Knew it was eternity ,meaning back when they decided he would be a itq holder , and he started drawing 200,000 dollars a year while rocking in his rocking chair drawing the old age pension , he never dreamed they was giving him eternity , he could draw 200,000 a year off young mens labour for the rest of his life , the rest of his childrens life , and so on for eternity . all because of a 2 year catch history , it was nice but with death approaching and the possibility of a day of judgement in his future , he was haveing second thoughts on if he had been living his best exsample with taking the 200,000 a year and shutting his mouth to the wrongs he was seeing happen to his communities next generation. He Knew Liberal Goverment was Wrong and years of Supporting it and recieving its modern day rewards was bothering him as death was starting to look like reality in his life . Are you really ticked off About EI ? Or is it your way of detering attention from this goverments corrupt deeds , to keep people from looking to the east for even greater exsamples of Liberal corruption then they found in Quebec . Are you only interested in changeing our topic?

Maybe Blair The bible just needs to be unlocked , maybe then it would surprise you.

Im new to this forum ,today is actually my first day . So how good is the Bible as a future telling Crystal ball , is it good enough to tell Canadas Future ? I have strong conviction that we can know Canadas Future with a Bible , but ill hold off until i see what others think first . Is our Nations Future told in the bible?

Takeanumber : EI is not as big a part of life in this part of the world as you are educated to beleave ,if the wealth was aloud to be evenly distributed im sure most EI would be of little use to most as incomes would be too high . But the liberal way is to make a few men worth 20 -100 million ,and all their neighbours being forced to fill their bank acounts a little fuller. I As you probly have already guessed have been a fishing Captain all my life , My poor Grammer can be explained as you guessed by lack of education . At 17 years of Age i Was a Trawler Captain faceing the north atlantic with 3 other mens lives under my responsibility .It was not seasonal work like you are educated to beleave it was year around ,i spent blizzards 100 miles from land ,half the time half seasick i spent 1/3 of my life on the water in them years.(But now i Have no Historical rights 90% of all historical rights are held by men who was never to sea) I could not Make Beleave I had Wisdom , In my life the rocks and the storms was real .I had to Grow up quick . I spent 12 years as a trawler Captain untill the distruction i could no longer bare , I presently Own and Captain a Longliner and i do see the day coming when comercial fishing will be nothing but memory . Fishermans Greed is somewhat to blame but their only human . What I see as the real problem is mismanagement . Two forms of Mismanagement i see around me , one goverment corruption , putting conservation second to putting the wealth into the hands of liberal supporters has taken a terrible toll on our oceans. This Goverment we now have is truely a Moralless corrupt Goverment in my judgement from what i see they need to go . The other form of mismangement comes from our education systems , now maybe im being a little jelous here but this is what i see happening . They take some of us away to university , they take your money and supposedly make you wise , but i think wisedom is a gift some have it some don't . Alot of our university educated may have been taught with text books full of untruths ,and some never had the ability to relise all was not true . So they put one of these persons in an office who may of never seen a fishing boat in opperation in their lives , they give them great power for law making . They never check the results . these people was told they was wise ,reality is they have no idea what their powerfull pens is doing in reality , The scary thing is alot of them don't even care , they never admit to making mistakes and even when we are on a wrong road ,because it may cause political embarresment our wrongs can only be hid and not fixed . Our Canadian oceans are headed for trouble in a big way , Our present liberal Goverment don't care about conservation ,thats only a lie they tell the gullible . Their only agenda has been Making rich friends Richer , i see it happening i find it discusting.

There will be more to talk about the EI if the liberals could get an other term with a majority . My prediction would be a complete loss of fishing resources ,its not about EI its about men who was not man enough to face the sea wanting most of the wealth brought back from the sea by the men that did face our oceans . Most of our fishery resources are now privately owned all handed out by this liberal goverment to rich liberal friends . One man owns 67 percent of all offshore scallop quota . Most the ground fish quota i beleave now is owned by 10-15 men . Some of this men are now making hundreds of thousands of dollars a week and most do it with no labour . You probly could keep the majority of the EI ,if this goverment of ours was into conservation and making all mens rights to our oceans equal . It seems the only thing they are interested in useing the power of the crown for is to make their wealthy friends have it all . The men that worked the ocean now have no historical rights to the ocean , All historical rights are now held by this goverments powerfull rich friends , we are starting to look like africa ,where the wealth is governed into the hands of 1% of the population . IF your not in that 1% why would you vote Liberal ? Ever take a walk into reality? Reality Is the Fish in Canadas oceans are now all owned bye the Liberals powerfull friends , and users have to buy them before catching them . the one captain i told you about paid 300,000 to liberals in 50 days fishing .Don't you think he could of took a few years off with no EI if he never had to pay golfing liberals all the money from his labour .

So how much will i have to pay one of the liberals crooked friends before i could have one of these beautiful bananas ? For cod fish we have to pay .60 a lb for fish still swimming to crooked liberals . for Pollack one captain told me they charged him .50 a lb for the quota then forced him to sell the fish to them after he caught them for .35 so to bring the fish to the warfe he had to take a .15 cent a lb loss ,so he ended up throwing over a 100,000 lb back over board dead to save money and the crooked greedy liberals ended up leaveing their pollack quota in the water . NICE GOVERMENT ! I hope your banana business is going better under liberal corruption, they sure mismanaged the fishery . I figgure in the bay of fundy alone fishermen are forced to throw back 3,000,000 lb of cod a year dead , they got the cod stocks almost wiped out ,and are blaming the seals . The Poor Seals will be the victims of liberal Lies , our countries idiots will soon be trying to save the Cod with a death to the seals campaign. OH WEll i see they went off to bust a portugeese trawler to help make a smooth election . You know I figgure if some Canadians was a little less worried about perfect grammer ,and a little more wiser to truth . Maybe smooth talking liberals would not be so successful . It appears you can sell any amount of lies as long as the grammer is perfect! Stay in Grammer School my problem is i have to live reality . THE LIBERAL PARTY OF CANADA is full of Corruption and mismanagement but they probly do have good grammer !

The Spirit of whoreing have caused them to err . Mystery Babalon the Great the Mother of Harlots and abominations of the earth seven hills = rome the merchants of the earth are waxed rich with her delicacies , Christmas Easter , Halloween ect /. Its The Mother church setting in Rome , Her Protesting Daughters are are running lose every where else . Modern Christianity is the problem , its a Satanic counterfiet , its there to drive the sensible people away from seeking God and his morals , and thus its the disease that makes our society fall . Hosea 4 will tell you how it makes us sick . We all need to look harder for the needle in the haystack , if we don't ezekiel 5 will be our reality . Narrow is the Way , How to find? I am the same yesterday today and forever ,Don't buy a Changeing God Also Here is the patience of the saints , here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus . Don't settle for less ,,,,,,,,,,,,,no lie is from the truth , NO LIE . not even a little one ,.

You one of the liberals? Who beleave the rest of the country is nothing but a bunch of monkeys , seems to be a comman attitude in that party

I don't know what they look like from your part of our Country ,but from here in South west nova ,they look right down discusting . A few of the Things happening in our part of the Country sence Liberals took the helm. Our town warfe here in Digby ,where all the fishing boats lay they gave away to some friends , also gave them 3,000,000 in tax dollars to help with warfe upkeep . Nothing was spent on Warfe repairs ,the warfe is now literally falling down and hardly fit to lay too in wind . Warfeage has gone through the roof , even repair trucks and fuel trucks have to pay to drive on the warfe to service fishing vessels . Some fishermen have had to make morns to lay too as warfage is so high , and nobody can even ask where the 3,000,000 dollars of tax dollars went . The fish (whats left of Them ) in our oceans are now owned bye landloveing business men , for a fisherman to catch fish now under this liberal corruption , they have to buy the fish from the liberal goverments friends before they go fishing . Some of these friends draw hundreds of Thousands of dollars while walking our nations golf cources while the working fisherman can't make a cent . 1 captain told me in 50 days fishing he put 1,100,000 dollars worth of fish on his deck . He had to throw the first 600,000 dollars worth back over board dead , he paid 300,000 dollars out to fees to the liberals friends . He only got to keep 200,000 . Out of the 200,000 he had to pay vessel upkeep , insurances , licence fees , crews wages , gear upkeep ,WARFAGE , fuel ,groceries , boat payments . at the end of the year they cut his cell phone off for lack of funds to pay the bill with , and he had just put 1,100,000 dollars worth of fish on his deck in 50 days fishing . The liberal friend s that he was made to pay 300,000 too had to pay nothing but maybe some golf cource dues . and the lobsters and crabs got lots of free meals of cod fish for nothing . One of the liberals friends just sold his fishing licence back to the queen for 12,000,000 . He has not fished sence the early 80s but they give him 12,000,000 of your hard earned tax dollars for his piece of paper , then give the piece of Paper to a native band , the native band buys his boat for an other 2,000,000 then gives it all back to him to manage . ] I suspect the real owners of Canadas Fish in alot of cases is now the american mofia . Just some of the things happening around here , Please folks open your eyes see how crooked these so called liberals are , get rid of them!

I don't think there is much hope of getting good goverment it will most likely keep getting worse and worse ,as the godlessness in our society grows . I probly should be voteing For the Conservitive party as im probly more like what they claim in morals . But history proves none of them are what they claim ,and corruption is rampet . Im voteing NDP for one reason only , the local cadidate is a friend and good person and the setting LIberal former Fisheries minister Robert Theabeau ,I suspect is maybe the most corrupt of all liberals . The fishery has been completly distroyed by corporate greed in his Rideing while he was minister of fisheries he he turns his eyes away because of their large checkbooks i suspect. I fear he will be reelected . Im only hoping he will never see alot of power again . Im certainly not for all NDP policies , Same sex marrages ,Abortion , Its very hard for me to vote in this direction , Only the Local canidate is appealing to me ,not left wing veiws .......... This liberal goverment has got to Go folks I hope the majority of you agree , Not only are they very corrupt ,they hardly even hide it . The Quebec Sponser ship Scandel i think is nothing to some of the stuff they are doing with tax dollars around here . They give one liberal friendly guy 12,000 ,000 for his fishing licence , then after allow him to get his brother to fish it . 12,000, 000 for a piece of paper , he never even went fishing ..... Discusting misuse of tax dollars . Get rid of these LIBERALS PLEASE! Not much hope of Good goverment , But lets throw out the obvious crooks !

One more thing i want to comment on , Which Sabbath? Which one Did God Make Holy ? The Seventh Day ? The First Day ? I think it was the Seventh , Maybe some man somewhere made the first day holy , maybe that mans hands was dirty . Sunday keeping is a Satanic Trick to keep sincere people from really obeying God on all points . Many places in New testament prove Saturday Sabbath is still expected . 1) Hebrews 4 verses 9-10 , take the word rest in verse 9 to Greek , then ask yourself how God rested from his? 2) Mathew 24; 20 why would Christ say this talking about just before the end if the Sabbath was done away like sunday keepers claim . 3) COL 2;16 ,17 ........YOU GOT TO THINK ABOUT THIS ONE, the real church knew the real sabbaths and holy days they wasn't just picking just any old day ,Paul knew they was keeping the right days , this wasn't the point . but think about next verse Which are a shadow of things to come , so holy days and sabbaths (real ones) shadow Gods plan or have a hidden meaning . 1st day could not shadow the future it would shadow the days of Noah ,or rebellion . 6 days you work , one day you rest = 6000 years God allows man to govern this earth or prove our knowledge then comes the day you rest or the 1000 years Christ rules this earth with a rod of Iron . So the seventh days hidden meaning is a shadow of the kingdom of God or the 1000 year perriod this world gets rest from our works of distroying it . while in col 2 make sure you read verses 21-23 , does anybody really beleave this , THAT ALL ARE TO PARISH with the useing after the commandments and doctrines of men ? So what if Sunday keeping is nothing but a commandment or doctrine of man? Could the majority be wrong? Was they in Noahs Day? or the first day of the weeK ? I don't even consider a Sunday keeping church as being God lead ! Sincere they could be though .

But of the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil ,thou shalt not eat of it :for in the day that thou eatest thereoff thou shalt surely Die . The one Thing the God of the bible did not want man doing was decideing Good from Evil , He wanted to be the one we looked too for law making , If we looked to him for our laws we would greatly prosper . If we looked elsewhere we would be headed the path to distruction . I am covenced he knew we would eat of that tree , He knew we wanted to see what it tasted like . For all of eternity we would of wanted to know what that tree tasted like. So God being a wise God never stopped us from eating off that tree ,instead he put it right in front of us , and also put a lieing whispering enchanter here with us knowing this creature could outsmart little old mankind . Thank God , We can look forward to a day when God will lock up that old hissing Enchanter , and will stop us from eating of that tree of the knowledge of good and evil . Seems For us to Beleave in God (Agreeing with his Wisdom) God was wise enough to know it would take governing ourselfs to incredible messes first before we would beleave in thy Kingdom Come ,when it will be done on earth as it is in heaven. We have only one hope , The day when God will keep this tree of the knowledge of good and evil from us and give us the tree of life instead , His Son . Who always respected his fathers wisdom . Thy Kingdom Come ! Is our hope And the seventh Angel sounded : and there were great voices in heaven ,saying ,The kingdoms of this world are become the Kingdoms of Our Lord and of his Christ ,and he shall reign for ever and ever . Some day we will know not to eat of that tree , as some day its going to be easy to Beleave in God when he is on a throne as king of Planet Earth . Won't be a democracy in them days , bad news for all you who want to remain as fruit pickers . I Think God does Exist .