I have been looking at the ongoing thread conversations. Everybody on this site might want to look up the definition of a charity or non-profit or not-for-profit organization. If they did I think it might clarify some peoples positon. Not-for-profits do have some of the powers of people even though they are classified as an entity as we recently found out with the Canadian Blood Services fiasco. Another little known example of a not-for-profit is, believe it or not, NAV Canada the N-F-P organization that runs the Canadian air traffic control system. Both of these organizations do have fairly expansive independent powers and can exert influence. Now I am aware that neither of these organizations have exerted any political influence, however they would have the capacity to do so. Everybody watch your definitions.