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Despite data showing that COVID-19 vaccines are effective at preventing serious illness from the Delta variant, some Florida hospitals are still being overwhelmed by virus patients who are mostly unvaccinated. The New York Times found two University of Florida hospitals in Jacksonville that are grappling with the highest number of COVID-19 patients they’ve had since the start of the pandemic, with growing fear over when it may actually end. https://www.thedailybeast.com/some-florida-hospitals-seeing-record-number-of-covid-cases

Florida reported 26,203 more COVID-19 cases to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday, according to Herald calculations of CDC data. The state also reported nine new deaths the day before. In all, Florida has recorded at least 3,130,144 confirmed COVID cases statewide and 42,731 deaths. Wednesday’s new cases broke the state’s current single-day case total record. Aug. 12 last held that title with 25,957 cases on a single day, according to Herald calculations of data provided by the CDC. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253735048.html

A few months ago, Gov. Ron DeSantis, Republican of Florida, declared his hands-off approach to COVID-19 “a tremendous success.” Politico announced that he had “won the pandemic.” But then came the hypercontagious Delta variant, which continues to hit Florida harder than anywhere else in the country. The result? DeSantis just added another, less flattering distinction to his résumé. When COVID first surged across the Sun Belt last summer, the average number of Floridians dying of the disease every 24 hours peaked at 185, according to the New York Times’s state-by-state COVID database. The same was true over the winter. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/florida-is-the-only-state-where-more-people-are-dying-of-covid-now-than-ever-before-what-went-wrong-090001893.html

You're saying healthy people aren't dying of covid?

That rambling, incoherent nonsense does not even remotely suggest what advantage or benefit there is for politicians in Canada and other western countries to make people wear masks and stay home.

Either the government is responsible - and you shouldn't have responsibility without power, or the morons who refuse to get vaccinated are responsible.

Weren't you aware that the ambition of every world dictator is to force people to wear masks and stay at home where they aren't productive while the government bankrupts itself paying them to drink beer, play video games and watch TV?

So you're saying the government should force people to be vaccinated?

Of course there have been, but mostly among those who were frail and sick to begin with. They're not jamming the hospitals like the otherwise healthy are in bubbaland. Cletus and Goober are dying in large numbers while they rant and rave about fake diseases and vow to not be vaccinated.

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2021/08/anti-vaxxer-demands-you-produce-a-single-study-showing-mrna-vaccines-are-safe-no-not-that-one/

mRNA vaccines do not and can not change your genetic code.

No, not for English speakers. I used to pay the language schools and tutors for the federal government and I saw how much time and effort public servants often went through trying to learn French to a level which would satisfy language requirements. I myself tried to learn French before I went to work for the feds. I paid out of my own pocket for French lessons at a community college, five days a week, 3hrs a day in class plus homework and practice. I got through the first two basic courses okay. I ran into trouble in the intermediate courses. Got the first one done okay, and the second, but that was it. My teacher sat me down and said that I just don't have the ear for it. The liaison is what kills me. The way French speakers join two words together so they sound like a different word entirely. I was at a point where I could understand every word I read, but not when it was spoken aloud by a French speaker. Plus the strong impact of gender on words, and the multiple tenses are killers as they completely change the sound and spelling of the word.

Canada has the longest wait times for ER visits, doctors appointments access to specialists and specialized treatments in the OECD because of a shortage of doctors which has existed for decades. What are you going to do to bring Canada's current number of 19 doctors per 1000 people up to the level of 30 or 40 which most of our peer countries have?

The system we have is not the one Tommie Douglas came up with. Pierre Trudeau was in love with Cuba and he adapted our system to be like theirs. But in an open society you can't control costs the way they do. That's why we have 19 doctors per 1000 people while Cuba has 67. Cuban doctors don't make hundreds of thousands a year so the government doesn't need to limit their numbers to save money.

You are misreading the chart. Of the vaccinated 0.36% are hospitalized and 0.07% are in intensive care. Of the unvaccinated 4.19% are in hospital and 1.53% in icu New case rate for the vaccinated is 1.25 per 1000 For the unvaccinated it's 8.7

There are a surprising number of Tory signs in my neighbourhood. Last election I didn't see any.

So build more. Why do we have 19 doctors per 1000 when Australia has 33???? Are we a third world country?! The UK has 28, France 37, Norway 42 and Austria 48. Germany and the Netherlands have 39. Greece and Spain have 50! Mexico has 21! We're down there with Libya and Venezuela and Tajikistan

Blow, fly, and take the rest of your crazy desperate-to-be-American friends with you.

Why would we dare to question the brilliant science of the great Doctor... McDowell, from Trinidad. Clearly he knows far more than all the rest of the medical establishment, western doctors and scientists and governments combined.

Oh for Gods sakes. Just get the shot and stop whining like a little bitch. I have a feeling that if some screwball Trumptard type told you to pour lighter fluid into your veins and set it on fire you'd do that rather than just get a simple shot hundreds of millions of people have already had.

Yeah, you keep providing these 'stunning' insights from the alt-right networks you spend your time on and I'll keep ignoring them.

Phht. As if any of you Trumptards had even the most basic understanding of what the word even means.

True. That's why by every definition of conservatism the Republican Party you support is no longer conservative. BTW, Canadians don't fear the government. That's an American thing.

LOL I haven't seen Charles take part in a discussion in years. He's the moderator and apparently feels he shouldn't. On the other hand he doesn't moderate this group or any of the clubs. So it makes sense he should feel free to comment here.