lictor616

Well, okay you've already said twice that I'm illiterate... i'm sure you can move on to newer and fresher ad hominem abusives... or else its crambe repitita. My fiction? Did and HRC intervene in the private affairs of a club or didn't it? Answer: it did. I'll try scanning the net for the particular bit on hip hop clothes... but lets be reasonable here.

Dancer, could you tone down the vehemence a bit... you sound pretty irrationally frustrated, calm down or for your own sake stay silent. I was talking about some anecdotal evidence. I'm trying to track down the story, and in the mean time fed you a story which is essentially the same: A HRC deciding it can override the law to placate some minorities... The bottom line is that private clubs are revenue generating places of business... Owners give themsleves the right to gain admission to WHOEVER THEY DESIRE ... FOR WHAT EVER REASON. They can shut you out for being too fat if your a girl (i've seen it happen recently in montreal)... but the bottom line is the doormen will scan the line and make their decisions on 3 things: 1/will they spend money 2/ will they be violent 3/ will they bring drugs. unfortunately (as much as you will deny this as crazed KKK conspiracy- as disconnected from the real *non-liberal* world you seem to be) but minorities, in particular blacks, are pretty much disasters for a club for all those reasons... anyone who is a regular in clubs will tell you the same.

already Dancer? ad hominem number 1... ...Our friend made it appear as if this was a recent phenomenon... alas its been nearly 100 years... 3 generations ago. And in hindsight, i'm not so sure how not restricting the right to vote to persons actually capable of reading and speaking coherent discourse is such a "crime" and affront to democracy... I suppose you agree with the current state of affairs now, where even the mentally ill and retarded are permitted the vote... Yes, in the States, if you're suffering from some form of mental insanity, you can be unstrapped from your straight jacket long enough to strike a check on a presidential candiadate... And people with downs are "undiscriminated" against... anyways I fail to see the relevance still between US electoral policies of the 1910's and the so called "racism" of letting private club owners open their doors TO WHO EVER THEY WANT AS THE LAW SHOULD PERMIT THEM.

there you go dancer: http://gauntlet.ucalgary.ca/story/2613

I fail to see the relationship... but i'd love for you to provide me with link or sources about this "voter system".... I've actually never heard of a such a scheme.

Notice of course that the article said nothing of weapons one way or the other... And to begrudge a few "rocket part" smuggling hardly compares to the entirely illegal nuclear/bio/chem arsenal Israel illegally assembled in its short existence (against international law of course as we have come to expect of the gangster state). 17 years ago an Israeli 747 cargo jet on its way from New York to Tel Aviv crashed into an Amsterdam neighborhood, killing 40 people on the ground. It was the worst air disaster the Netherlands has experienced. If you don't remember reading about it, it's because news agancies in Canada and the US decided that it was a piece of news you really didn't need to know. Ordinarily such things are kept hushed up permanently, but what has caused this story to flare up recently is that a lot of people in the Amsterdam neighborhood where the crash occurred have been coming down with strange and serious ailments. The Israeli aircraft had among its cargo 50 gallons of dimethyl methylphosphonate -- DMMP for short -- which is a chemical for which the only known manufacturing use is the production of the nerve agent: sarin gas. Also on board were quantities of the other chemicals which are required, along with DMMP, to produce sarin. The Jews, of course, angrily insisted that their aircraft was carrying no "dangerous goods" over the Netherlands, that the DMMP on board was intended only for testing and research purposes, and that they aren't responsible for the sickness of the people who live near the crash site. I mean pick one of 1000 outrages and barefaced smuggling of REALLY dangerous weapons... When are we canadians simply going to integrally pull out of that squalid and crazed part of the globe? What possible advantage can we gain from involving ourselves there?

I have a few buddies who I know hit the club scene in Cowtown, and they've told me how this one club got shut down once because it wouldn't tolerate "hip hop" regalia: i.e. oversized T-shirts and basketball jerseys, baggy shorts and jeans, caps etc... some Alberta Human Rights commission had a fit and said that such dress codes were put up ONLY to keep blacks out... The victim mentality is so deep and inveterate in some of our minorities that they inevitably see demons where there are none...

lol, well we know why don't we Mr. Whiteman... because they only care about WHITE racism... haven't you noticed "THE" double standard before? We're the new second class citizen in this accursed country...

Because on many key issues... Political Correctness, tolerance of homosexuality, beliefs in equality (gender, racial and otherwise) muslims are at odds with the orthodoxy of this country. Far more infact then simple racists... One can be "racist" (ie beleive that races are not to the tenth decimal equal in every aspect) and still hold PC views on homosexuals and Gender... Muslims are more often then not on the "wrong" side of every aspect of PC issues... yet they get a free ride because their skins aren't white... What he's saying is that if we were fair (which we aren't) we'd be be seizing the kids of muslims at a very high rate...

!? Evangelicals are staunch Israel supporters... Actually many evangelical sects accept the covenant status of Jews as living gods on earth... They see Jews as "god's own" and venerate them as superhumans on earth.. sample this: http://www.ifcj.org/site/PageNavigator/eng...ians_of_israel/ The so called Guardians of Israel- which is an organization who specializes in relieving the evangelical boobs in the US of their pocket money in order to make profits for a few zionists.. Then there's the annual mutton giveaway in Texas... yes, in San Angelo, Texas, evangelicals full of Christian luff for God's People, select 27 choice sheep and ship them, at "enormous cost," by chartered airplane as a gift to a small agricultural commune, or KIBBUTZ. San Angelo is a town of about 100 000 in west central Texas, about 150 miles north of the Rio Grande. Evangelical leaders usually whoop it up for the great airlift, and funds are usually collected from local GOYIM. The sheep are of a special breed, called Rambouillet, produced by the ordinary techniques of genetics to yield superior wool and mutton. The sheep are not bred for intelligence however. Ohg and neither are the evangelical mutton-heads who ship them.

I smell a lie.... we have no way to ascertain this anecdotal nonsense.

Japan did however colonize and virtually enslave Manchuria, Sinkiang, and much of south east asia more then once in its history..... they weren't in the western hemisphere... but how is that relevant? Funny you should say that, actually Japan has been called the "Britain of East" by The newsletter of United Nations University, Noam Chomsky, John J. Mearsheimer and many others. Far from being the opposite of Japan, you can barely put a cigarette paper between the two countries... both are even constitutional monarchies! Uk is open how? there has only been 3rd world immigration there for a few decades...

since when is food not tied in to culture? and no, what you were saying- you were saying if people were like me (which i don,t know what that is... and you didnt bother to specify) .. the world would'nt have basketball... or something or other..

LOL! I guess you,ve completely destroyed your own point... Without the authentic people "races" you can't have the authentic cultural aspects... that's funny ... I was'nt expecting that from a rabid egalitarian... So it follows that western culture is better the more WESTERNERS we have... so we really aren't all the same are we?

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Do you need a Jamaican friend to enjoy rum? Do you need to pall around indian people to like butter chicken?! dude give it a rest...

not at all of course... japanese are capable of having (and do) all these things on their lonesome.. they don,t have a colony of 15 000 scotts living there to show them how to fill a hoggshead cask full of whiskey.... sorry. why would they "recreate it"? what are you talking about? The japanese did also CONTRIBUTE to western science and technology more then any other non western ethnicity...

oh that's grand coming from you... "we are all humans?" okay, take me down that road please: what does that EVEN mean? "equal under the law" what law? did you know that countries have different sets of them? but wait a minute hmmmm lets see how equal we are under the law HERE IN CANADA: "Equality Rights" 15. (1) Every individual is equal before the and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age, or mental or physical disability. (2) Subsection (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because or race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age, or mental or physical disability.(5) hahaha in other words we're all equal... except of course if your skin is a certain color, if you swing a certain way and if you have some sort of deficiency ... then ... you're slightly MORE equal and not really subject to "equal rights" ouch right? doesn't that hurt canadian... now let me see your next bit of ad hominem nonsense...

!? Why do you mock my position: of praising homogeneity and "diversity" at the same time? Do you think a country cannot be diverse without different races living in it? How do you keep avoiding my point that we can be homogeneous and still be able to seek out what we consider are the best foreign influences? Furthermore... I wonder.. do you think that a country cannot have a Chinese restaurant without chinese living in it? Do you believe that a colony of Italians are necessary to have an opera house? and hear the glorious anti-racist speak: "I'll take Canada as a societal model over Japan any day... and note because of their skin colour." that's right BECAUSE of their skin color..... wow... thank you for suiciding your argument... (although to be frank it was already dead to begin with)

You seem quite xenophobic yourself... i don't know that your liberalism would be capable of enjoying the rest of the world... that is for the most part: VERY ANTI- EGALITARIAN and a rebuke to everything you stand for. And to clear the cobwebs from your confused mind... JAPAN IS RACIALLY HOMOGENOUS... YET IT IS STILL CAPABLE OF ENJOYING WHAT IT FEELS ARE THE BEST FOREIGN INFLUENCES... Hence they have shawarma's without Muslims and sharia law, they have basketball without blacks, they have baseball without americans, they have mexican food without mexicans, they have western technology without westerners, they have Scotch without scotts, they have opera's without Italians... does that register better? no right? then don't bother...

lol one minute your agreeing with the statement that Japanese society is "isolationist, xenophobic, oppressive and racist"... now you're saying "they're not afraid of what is different"? which is it canadien? no wonder you can't make sense of anything... scrambled eggs all the way for you eh? I happen to think Canada should base its immigration policies on the Japanese model... that would be "different" wouldn't it?

no talk about any silly "RACIAL EQUALITY EITHER" genius... back to your cave now..

again... ad hominem abusive... why even make such a pronouncment? Are you too confused in your temper tantrums to notice that I HAVE BEEN TO JAPAN? I was also an exchange student in Venezuela through A.F.S. for a year. And notice of course that i'm am PRAISING JAPANESE CULTURE.. and still... after all of that... you call MOI close minded and xenophobic? keep deferring attention away from the argument, the most minimally discerning amongst us know that you can't refute what I say.

okay okay canadien, tone down the ad hominems... you seem pretty convinced of your point of view and then should have no problem in focusing on the actual topic at hand instead of me personally... Ad hominems are the hallmark of sore looser.

argh god her's the link again canadian... http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/001951.html Ernst Mayr, "perhaps the greatest evolutionary scientist of the twentieth century", might be called the Linnaeus of the Modern Synthesis {neo-Darwinism}, his Systematics and the Origin of Species set forth the biological species concept still in use today, with large utility for explaining speciation. Recently, while thumbing through some archived issues of the AAAS' Daedalus I found this amazing essay of his {Winter 2002. Vol. 131, pg. 89}, The Biology of Race and the Concept of Equality. Ernst Mayr "There are words in our language that seem to lead inevitably to controversy. This is surely true for the words "equality" and "race." And yet among well informed people, there is little disagreement as to what these words should mean, in part because various advances in biological science have produced a better understanding of the human condition. Let me begin with race. There is a widespread feeling that the word "race" indicates something undesirable and that it should be left out of all discussions. This leads to such statements as "there are no human races." Those who subscribe to this opinion are obviously ignorant of modern biology. Races are not something specifically human; races occur in a large percentage of species of animals. You can read in every textbook on evolution that geographic races of animals, when isolated from other races of their species, may in due time become new species. The terms 11 subspecies" and "geographic race" are used interchangeably in this taxonomic literature. This at once raises a question: are there races in the human species? After all, the characteristics of most animal races are strictly genetic, while human races have been marked by nongenetic, cultural attributes that have very much affected their overt characteristics. Performance in human activities is influenced not only by the genotype but also by culturally acquired attitudes. What would be ideal, therefore, would be to partition the phenotype of every human individual into genetic and cultural components. Alas, so far we have not yet found any reliable technique to do this. What we can do is acknowledge that any recorded differences between human races are probably composed of cultural as well as genetic elements. Indeed, the cause of many important group differences may turn out to be entirely cultural, without any genetic component at all. Still, if I introduce you to an Eskimo and a Kalahari Bushman I won't have much trouble convincing you that they belong to different races. In a recent textbook of taxonomy, I defined a "geographic race" or subspecies as "an aggregate of phenotypically similar populations of a species inhabiting a geographic subdivision of the range of that species and differing taxonomically from other populations of that species." A subspecies is a geographic race that is sufficiently different taxonomically to be worthy of a separate name. What is characteristic of a geographic race is, first, that it is restricted to a geographic subdivision of the range of a species, and second, that in spite of certain diagnostic differences, it is part of a larger species. No matter what the cause of the racial difference might be, the fact that species of organisms may have geographic races has been demonstrated so frequently that it can no longer be denied. And the geographic races of the human races established before the voyages of European discovery and subsequent rise of a global economy - agree in most characteristics with the geographic races of animals. Recognizing races is only recognizing a biological fact. "

Are you serious in claiming that the Japanese doesn't have an NAACP chapter because "it doesn't want to" address the problem of black inequality? NONE LIVE THERE GENIUS! Yes Koreans and Chinese are the minorities... how's that for Diversity in Japan... their only minority groups are CLOSELY related and often INDISTINGUISHABLE. Japan an small Isolationist culture!?!?!?! Have you ever even been there? of course not! Japan is actually a devastating refutation of the ignorant view that homogeneity means dull uniformity. (This is the implication, of course, of the common assertion that immigrants have livened up Canada, saving it, presumably, from the suffocating sameness of "whiteness"). Japan has as much variety—cultural, esthetic, culinary—as we have here in our befouled diverse country. Whether it is clothing styles, amateur orchestras, motorcycle clubs, art exhibits, restaurants or museums, Japan is fully diverse, there are countless ways to be japanese, countless outlets of japanese lifestyle. Traditional Japanese instruments like the koto and shamisen have never been more popular, but Japan also produces internationally-known classical musicians (Seizi Ozawa to name one of them) ... here sample this bit of western musical mastery championed here by Ozawa) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzMGzBKRttU In addition to its own sports like sumo or judo, Japan has mastered baseball to the point that it sends Japanese stars to the major leagues... So clearly you entire argument of "isolationist" close minded dumb Japanese collapses with a pinprick... I could also go on and comment on how marvelously well run and progressive Japan is... it is MILES ahead of the US and canada in science and technology... their cities (despite the overpopulation) are spotlessly clean, their streets have no pot holes, their crime rate is a slither of ours, their average IQ higher then our own, their economy much more solid (despite their few resources). so please, go to Japan, I have been... and it will perhaps (if you are not immune to logic) open your eyes to the wonder of a society not at grips with the "multicultural squalor" and "racial problems" we have in north america...