lictor616

howabout, Islam, Christianity and Judaism is the problem? what possible benefit does either of these creeds provide us with?

http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/more.html O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou has paid their cowers; and those whom they right hand possesses out of the captives of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated with thee; and any believing woman who gives herself to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her - this only for thee, and not for the believers [at large]; We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess - in order that there should be no diff~culty for thee. And Allah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful (Surat Al-Ahzab 33:50). http://www.salon.com/mwt/letters/200..._3/index1.html Chapter 33 verse 50 of the Koran: "O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war, and the daughters of thine uncle on the father's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the father's side, and the daughters of thine uncles on the mother's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the mother's side who emigrated with thee, and a believing woman if she give herself unto the Prophet and the Prophet desire to ask her in marriage a privilege for thee only, not for the [rest of] believers. We are aware of that which We enjoined upon them concerning their wives and those whom their right hand possess that thou mayst be free from blame, for Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." Thus, the Prophet is given sexual access to first cousins, captives, and any believing woman whom he desires to wed. In fact, he is given certain liberties denied to all others. Allah is here not only forgiving but also quite liberal, at least on the behalf of his Prophet. The term "whom your right hand possesses" refers to women captured in battle. Captive women were considered legitimate trophies of war and in fact the Prophet marries a Jewess whose husband has been slain. Although we can construe this practice to be "pro-sexuality," it is hard to imagine how this paleolithic approach to romance serves the interests of feminism. ..rules in Chapter 24 of the Koran are revealed in response to an alleged tryst between Aishah, Muhammad's child bride and a young soldier. Afraid of losing his prized pubescent amour, the Prophet was comforted when God revealed to him that she could not be convicted without four eyewitnesses. As the supposed "roll in the sand" between Aishah and her young soldier took place in the wastelands of Arabia, there was little chance of her accusers meeting these high standards of evidence. (Inserted by Simon: The above is an example of how conveniently allah reveals himself to mohammad. Note also the requirement for four eyewitnessses to a rape essentially also condones rape in that it renders it practically impossible to prove it. ) http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/mohwar3.html Mohammed attacked the Banu-L-Mustaliq because of their wealth. In a surprise raid, the Muslims drove them to the Sea. They slaughtered many members of the Banu-N-Mustaliq Tribe and looted away a booty of 2000 Camels, 5000 Sheep and 500 Women! 500 women were captured screaming and crying after they had watched their husbands and sons being slaughtered. The most beautiful captive was Juwayriyya, daughter of the chief of the Banu-L-Mustaliq. Mohammed snatched her to satisfy his own animal lust. The captured women were supposed to be returned by the Muslims upon payment of a ransom. But the night after the battle itself, Mohammed and his army raped each and every one of them. One of the men Abu Sa'id Khudri of Mohammed's army reported : "We were lusting after women and chastity had become too hard for us, but we wanted to get the ransom money for our prisoners. So we wanted to use the "Azl" (Coitus Interruptus- where the man withdraws before ejaculating)...We asked the Prophet about it and he said: "You are not under any obligation to stop yourselves from doing it like that.." Later on the women and children were given for ransom to their envoys. They all went away to their country and not One wanted to stay although they had the choice.." Koran 4:24 "And all married women are forbidden unto you EXCEPT those captives whom your right hand possesses. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that you seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery..." You also glance ove rthe fact that the Muslims here majoritarily want sharia law... It almost passed in Toronto in 2004! and i'm paranoid? you're willfully obtuse.

I believe that a fascist victory would have meant more of peace time Germany, i.e: peaceable intentions with Britain (Hitler believed it was essential for the English to maintain and strengthen their Empire) and America, it would have meant that the Western ideals of science and rationality would have taken precedence over Christianity, Marxism and political correctness... the German view on such things as animal rights, environmental protection and women's rights would have translated easily into modern times. Its also quite reasonable to believe that the third world would have known no population explosion, since the Nazis, would not have committed the liberal folly of sending aid and knowhow to third worlders thus showing them how to maintain much larger populations (which very reasonably would have lead to a great alleviation of environmental destruction). There would, furthermore, not have been the squandering of wealth and general retardation of eastern europe (and Russia too mind you)- there would have been no communist lag. And the world would be Bi-polar with a germano-british and american hegemony, there is no reason to believe that relations would have been amicable (yet competitive) between the two. Cities in Europe and America would have never been occupied by cultural marxists, and so a homogeneity similar to Japan (with a similar orderly and functioning) could have been achieved, so places like detroit, or new orleans, or any other third world jungle- would have been almost unfeasible... there would be no third world immigration problem, no occupational hazard, no prospects for racial tensions. Culturally, rock and rap would doubtless not have emerged... The technological and scientific prowess of Greater Germany would not have been aborted, and with proper funding... who knows what marvels we'd be enjoying right now... As in prewar Germany, unemployment would be drastically reduced, and the economy would doubtless be middle class driven. No cold war, no weapons buildup, no nagasaki, no hiroshima, no EU... the difference would have been profound and I think for the most part: preferable to the outcome that occurred

This again in comparative standards to the methods of the communists, which included far worst methods of coercion doesn't validate the disproportionate and negative attention given to the nazis. Matter of fact, the nazis used these tactics to compete with the guerrilla party politics of the communists in Germany in the weimar republic Read anything about the german red guards and their tactics? summary executions, kidnapping state officials, raping their wives... these where the methods of the commies in their heyday... And the ones who were most hostile to democracy were the communists... they were the first to try to overtake the country: "Inspired by the general strikes, a communist uprising began in the Ruhr region when 50,000 people formed a "Red Army" and took control of the province. The regular army and the Freikorps ended the uprising on their own authority. Other communist rebellions were put down in March 1921 in Saxony and Hamburg." Again, the communist record is in comparative standards WORSE then the nazi one... The real thugs were the commies in Germany. And from all accounts the nazis were determined as a practical matter to pacify the country by using similar methods as the communists (against the communists)... Neglecting to mention that is the height of dishonesty. "The first challenge to the Weimar Republic came when a group of communists and anarchists took over the Bavarian government in Munich and declared the creation of the Bavarian Soviet Republic. The communist rebel state was put down one month later when Freikorps units were brought in to fight the leftist rebels." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Republic yes i'm quoting wikipedia, because anything else you guys automatically denounce as insane hatespeech literature.

Nowhere did I mention the fraudulently contrived treaty of Versailles, nowhere at all.

lol, and you're saying it doesn`t? really?

i'm not sure how that is any victory... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Draw_Mohammed_Day reading the wikipedia breakdown doesn't lead me to think that it was... http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/theampersand/archive/2010/05/20/429529.aspx i'm not sure that it made every muslim "cool"...

I argued that the reason for many of these differences were genetic... dat beez raycissum do...

again not disputing that... that doesn,t change that the US is dominated by Israel.

yes for an article on the topic of racial disparities in specific diseases... the article quoted the CDC at length, i really didn,t understand...

I was banned for 3 months... hard to reply under such circumstances.

wow want a medal? "we americans waste FAR more resources then you in aiding the gangster state of israel... we win" and we don't even flinch when they try to sink our ships as surely as they did when they attacked the USS liberty. in proportion to our GDP and population, its pretty similar. btw...

worked really well? Is geert wilders still living with a 8 detail bodyguard set? while the liberal PC traitors are suing him and trying to jail him for hate speech? yes good job... you can rest now, everything is fine...

Its tolerant neardowell lefties like you that made this sort of alice in wonderland situation possible, where our freedom of speech is attacked by primitive creatures who profess one of the most barbarous religion in the world... We brought them here peacfully... they are the ones who take kindness for weakness... although they may be right in doing that... its working very well for them right now. perhaps we should meet their violence with violence then? Oh of course not, much better to appease them, with perhaps sharia law and yet more cultural sensitivity, as they gnaw our last remaining freedoms away (that we really don't deserve anyway)

the liberals and PC crowd first... then... if it was up to people like me we wouldn't even think that such an issue would be possible here...

tee-hee! dja miss me!? no, I kid though, I do not hate the Jews, in fact I admire them enormously.

do you have reading comprehension problems? I never disputed any of these points... I never brought them up! lol

we were talking about the RELATIONSHIP that we have with Israel... which again is similar to that of the US: being one sided: many casha and benefits flow to israel, and we get crapped on in exchange... yes canada has a minor role... despite a few ships stationned in Iraq and some troops in "the Ghan"... it isn't a major presence, well done bush_cheney!

Can there be anymore doubt that liberal PC orthodoxy has rotted the minds of our people and induced paralysis of our will to live? In more "un-diverse times" such a statement by a muslim would have resulted in such a house cleaning as to guarantee the safety of our people and their freedom to say what EVER THEY LIKE for two generations... we were more virile and self-respecting then... Today we are self loathing egalitarians, that put up with the most outrageous servitude to our third world pests. Do we honestly deserve to live... The Iron Law Of Life that ordains the survival of the fittest certainly would not indicate that we do.

canada has a similar one sided relationship and suffers from its relationship with israel. Its image as a human right respecter and upholder is certainly damaged by this, and we get to pay billion in aid for it... and receive NOTHING in return... since Israel is a dependency, a beggar state that filches dimes off of western tax payers (whom they religiously hate as profane goyim)... and how right they are to look at us with utter contempt. Me and what army.. why Israel uses the US army to do its bidding all the time... maybe we could give it a try... oh right! we don't own the media and key positions in the gov and we don't have an AIPAC... tsk tsk... we'll get it right some day! And then the US will OUR little peon, not Israels! Yes canada is indeed a fading power, as is the US, i wasn,t arguing that point.

hypothetically speaking, as long as it doesn't affect westerners in their homelands... what reason do we have to even care. not our backyard ...

wow touché, can't wait to see what dancer cooks up in defense, oh wait I don't

let me refine that statement. The Israelis will do what they want... Americans only get to watch from the peanut gallery. (and pay for their servitude) can they change the status quo? If we are to judge by your comments: then they will grovel like mangy and famished curs at the feet of their true masters (who aren't american wink, wink).

You're still dodging the obvious answer to my question: judging by the historical record: Germany Peace time vs Communist States Peace time, which were better? which was less conducive to democides, genocides and misery? The answer unambiguously: should be GERMANY. UNDENIABLY SO! Even in war time: in so far as looting and rape and unnecessary brutality was concerned: the best behaved army on the battlefield were again: the Germans. Russians were INSTRUCTED as an ORDER: to rape ANY and EVERY woman on sight, Ilya Ehrenburg (who, for some reason or other managed to be jewish) the top propagandist for Russian troops instructed in one propaganda leaflet headlined "Kill," Ehrenburg incited Soviet soldiers to treat Germans as sub-human. The final paragraph concludes: “The Germans are not human beings. From now on the word German means to use the most terrible oath. From now on the word German strikes us to the quick. We shall not speak any more. We shall not get excited. We shall kill. If you have not killed at least one German a day, you have wasted that day ... If you cannot kill your German with a bullet, kill him with your bayonet. If there is calm on your part of the front, or if you are waiting for the fighting, kill a German in the meantime. If you leave a German alive, the German will hang a Russian and rape a Russian woman. If you kill one German, kill another -- there is nothing more amusing for us than a heap of German corpses. Do not count days, do not count kilometers. Count only the number of Germans killed by you. Kill the German -- that is your grandmother's request. Kill the German -- that is your child's prayer. Kill the German -- that is your motherland's loud request. Do not miss. Do not let through. Kill.” (Alfred de Zayas, Nemesis at Potsdam (London: Roudedge & Kegan Paul, 2nd edition, 1979), pp. 6546, 201; Erich Kern (ed.), Verheimlichte Dokumente (Munich: FZ- Verlag, 1988), pp. 260-61, 353-55.) again... i don't understand how one could see the Communists as being the "lesser evil"... the proof is obviously overwhelming that the Germans were far better behaved, far more rational, far more humane. OH! And by the way: German antipathy towards jews was not (as the history channel loves to tell us) completely nutty and not based in blind hatred. I know TV likes to portray jews as blameless victims who were despised not because of their own actions: but because of insane random unrelated hatred. The fact was that Germans understood that Bernard Baruch and many other jews in the Wilson administration during WW1 were able to influence the US into entering a war with Germany, thus having a hand in their horrible defeat. There were other insults as well, the Balfour declaration is duly noted. There was also the fact that Jews were notorious inciters of revolution and disruptive: the biggest proponents of communism were often Jews, Karl Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, et al. Many high ranking operatives such as the infamous monster: Lazar Moiseyevitch Kaganovich (the butcher of Ukraine: who's policies killed 7 to 10 million ukrainians during the holodomor of 32-33, including 3 million children) were Jews, Then there were niggles; the quite hateful religion who teaches that only jews are humans, the blood libel that Germans suffered in earlier times, the fact that prostitution and drug trafficking was for all practical purposes a Jewish industry: Hitler in Mein Kampf noted for instance that: (while on the subject of social vices including prostitution and white-slave traffic in Vienna): "I recognized the Jew as the cold-hearted, shameless and calculating director of this revolting vice traffic in the scum of the big city, a cold shudder ran down my back..." And looking at our current circumstances, how the porn industry is dominated by Jews, (just as any media) as well as the current sex slave trade that goes son in Israel in complete impunity, we have first hand experience with just what he was on about. I'm not here trying to defend Hitler on all accounts. Nor am I saying that the Germans were angels- of course not, the Germans were at times brutal and were guilty of crimes time and time again. But to be fair, we must be able to compare them to others who we chose as our allies. I think its a legitimate point.

loool!!? Where's your point of reference here?? we already knew about Katyn, Vinitsya, the Holodomor, death camps (GULAG SYSTEM) purges etc. In peace time the communists were murdering MILLIONS in orgies of bestiality too sick to even describe here years BEFORE the war. AND!... here's the scary part: They did this without the benefit of a hot war! The nazi legacy in peace time was one of 0% unemployment, peaceful orderly cities, abundant food, a stupendously productive technological sector (it was the apogee of Europe really, perhaps for all time) and except for the t4 Aktion euthanasia program which (if we're honest here) euthanized the mentally retarded and ill, the diseased and dangerous, there was the expelling of the about 30 000 of Germany's 500 000 jews (jews were encouraged to leave ASAP). So in retrospect: you have Germany: who,s only official extermination program in peace time was the culling of the most wretched portion of Germany: the retarded, the cripple, the degenerate (entartete und erbkrank) while communism was high on the hog killing noble statesmen, scientists, politicians, poets, artists, financial agents, generals... in essence anyone who excelled and showed the lie of human equality... they DECAPITATED the nations they occupied (by destroying the leadership of every nation: thus weakening them irreparably) and on the other hand you have Germany, who killed its useless in as humane a way as was possible at the time. Oh and lets not forget (for all you liberals out there) that Nazi Germany pioneered animal rights laws, environmental protection laws, womens rights and empowerment etc. given these two countries and their records... you still think picking the communists was a better thing to do? i'm stumped.