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You are a coward and a compulsive liar rue.... You specifically said I hate all saudis and your proof means jack shit...It's like saying zionism is a racist movement doesn't mean I hate jews you shmuck! Hating wahabism and the despicable regime in the SA is different from hating all saudi you muppet. Seriously how much more idiotic can you get....There really is no hope for you.

Go and phack yourself Get your hebrew translator out. You are not making sense...

Complete washed up lies to cover up the involvement of British intelligence and CIA in the coup of prime minister Dr Mossadegh in 1953. But you are so determined to carry on with the propaganda... Imagine all that oil was nationalised by the democratically elected Iranian goverment back then. What would have happened if BP didn't get their oil from Abadan installation at subsidised prices? Those evil Eyeranians were too smart and damn Churchill didn't want to have that....Who cares about democracy flourishing....hmmmmm! You certainly don't...

Rue, rue, rue...Stop it. Seriously! This is beyond ridiculous. I know you enjoy people to look at your writing....There's no hope fior you... I dare you to provide for everyone here that I have stated my hate for all saudis. You cannot. This is the typical behaviour of a zionist thug. Creates lies like a broken record hoping it becomes believable.

You are pathetic old man.I tried to reason with you but you are beyond reasoning....That label smug zionist thugh is very appropriate indeed. Now spend that pathetic time to write another essay of lies and deceits.

How long is a piece of string? For the same reason a jew, budha or atheist try to get to a christian country. Can you answer that?

I merely pointed to DOP that there's no reference to Negro as he has suggested. That was the only thing I disputed...It's all there. Why did you leave out the rest of the article I posted? This is how it continues: Meyer dismisses this as "efforts by propagandists [to] explain the term away [that are] at the least, disingenuous".[1] However, the derogatory abuse of the word does not negate its original meaning or spiritual implications. Linguistically, the word Abid (Abed) is from the Semitic languages. In Hebrew, the name Obed means "servant" or "worshiper," and the Arabic word abd, abid, or abīd(often written without a vowel in translation) means "slave" and has been applied to a Muslim as a "slave or worshiper of God (Allah)." The implication that a Muslim should strive to be a "completely devout servant of God" is based upon Quranic verses that state that Muhammad, even as God's messenger, was simply a Abid (i.e. a slave or servant) of God. This usage of the term was implied from Islam's inception in 600 AD and precedes the derogatory use of the term in the Sudanese conflict of the 20th century.

I am going to play devil's advocate here. Do you really think selling arms to corrupt regimes in the ME is attributing to good intentions from the West or toppling their democratically elected governments? I give you a simple answer for both. It's all about money. Not democracy, poor human rights, etc, etc. For the first part selling arms or aircrafts to these countries not only generates revenue but also creates jobs. But is it really worth it when it backfires? Seems like we never seem to want from failed foreign policies in that region when it backfires....Guess what repeating those policies and expecting a different result is a sign of insanity....

Came across this video which shows the breakdown of Syrian refugees by % of population and GDP. http://www.unhcr.org/uk/news/videos/2017/2/58b3f4714/which-countries-host-the-most-refugeesquest.html

Last time I checked the majority of Syrian refugees are in another part of the world. So your assertion that "we (as western countries) brought over all the Syrians" is false.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War Refugees of the Syrian Civil War Total population: 5,165,502 refugees (registered, August 2017)[1] 6,130,000–6,320,000 refugees (based on UN estimate, March 2016)[2] Regions with important populations (over 1,000 refugees)[a] Turkey 3,079,914 (registered as of July 2017)[3] Lebanon 2.2 million (estimated arrivals as of December 2015) 1,001,051 (registered)[4] Jordan 1,265,000 (census results as of November 2015)[5] 661,114 (registered July 2017)[6] Germany 600,000 (2014 to late 2016)[7] 429,000 (registered by late 2016) 456,023 (applicants by February 2016) Saudi Arabia 500,000 (estimated overstays as of 2016)[8][9] United Arab Emirates 242,000 (estimated overstays as of 2015)[10][11] Iraq (incl. Iraqi Kurdistan) 230,836 (registered)[12] Kuwait 155,000+[8][13] (estimated overstays to June 2015) Egypt 117,702 (registered by March 2016) 122,228 (UNHCR estimate as of July 2017)[14] 500,000 (Egypt MFA estimate as of September 2016) Sweden 110,333 (applicants to December 2015)[15] Hungary 72,505 (applicants to December 2015)[15] Canada 62,000+ (applicants to Feb 2017) 43,000+ (approved as of Feb 2017) 40,081 (resettled as of Feb 2017)[16][17] Croatia 55,000 (estimated as of September 2015)[18] 386 (applicants to December 2015)[15] Greece 54,574 (estimated in country May 2016)[19] 5,615 (applicants to December 2015)[15] Austria 45,827 (applicants to April 2017)[15] Algeria 43,000 (estimated as of November 2015) 5,721 (registered as of November 2015)[20] Qatar 40,000 (estimated overstays 2015)[8] 42 (registered)[8] Netherlands 31,963 (applicants to July 2016)[15] Libya 26,672 (registered as of December 2015)[21] Armenia 20,000 (estimated as of October 2016)[22] Denmark 19,433 (applicants to December 2015)[15] Bulgaria 17,527 (applicants to December 2015)[15] United States 16,218 (resettled by November 2016)[23] Belgium 16,986 (applicants to July 2016)[15] Norway 13,993 (applicants to December 2015)[15] Singapore 13,856 (applicants to December 2015)[15] Switzerland 12,931 (applicants to July 2016)[15] Serbia (incl. Kosovo) 11,831 (applicants to February 2016)[15] France 11,694 (applicants to July 2016)[15] United Kingdom 9,467 (applicants to July 2016)[15] 5,102 (resettled as of August 2015)[24] Brazil 9,000 (approved)[25] 2,097 (as of November 2015)[26] Spain 8,365 (applicants to December 2015)[15] Russia 7,096 (overstays in residence to April 2016)[27] Australia 6,000 (resettled to Jan 2017)[28] Malaysia 5,000 (estimated in August 2015)[citation needed] Tunisia 4,000 (September 2015)[29] Cyprus 3,527 (applicants to December 2015)[15] Bahrain 3,500 (estimated June 2015)[8] Argentina 3,000 (approved)[30] Montenegro 2,975 (applicants to December 2015)[15] Italy 2,538 (applicants to December 2015)[15] Romania 2,525 (applicants to December 2015)[15] Macedonia 2,150 (applicants to December 2015)[15] Malta 1,222 (applicants to December 2015)[15] Somalia 1,312 (as of January 2016) Finland 1,127 (as of December 2015)[15] Language: Arabic, Kurdish, Turkish, Armenian, Aramaic Religion: Sunni Islam, Christianity, Shia Islam, Yazidism, Druze

Exactly right! The average Joe in the West doesn't care how the oil finds its way to their car. They are not interested in who is killing who as long as they get the fuel and keeps it running. But I am sick and tired of listening to these tiresome preachings and soundbites about establishing democracy in the Middle East, human rights, women and gay rights and yet we have hypocrites like POTUS who signs a 110 billion dollar arms contract with Saudi Arabia. Was that because women cannot drive in Saudi Arabia? Noooo. Is that because POTUS is infatuated with the attire of the sheikh or their sword dance? Nooo. It's retro dollar stupid...The hypocrisy stinks and when you state the facts as it is they label you as an anti western. There are so many dictators around the world but hey we are not interested in them because they don't have oil...

That is not true. That is a false statement and your accusations are invalid. I said to lump all muslims as one group like a bunch of herd who look the same is a bigoted and a racist remark and I still maintain that position. You are being manipulative... Total non sense. My point of contention was and has always been with the statement made by Argus and supported by you that claims all muslims look the same and are like a "bunch of herds" Your attempt to divert this to jews and claim it as one of my accusations is a blatant lie. Your statements show that you are either being very ignorant or have selective hearing. It is well known your tendencies to call upon anyone who disagrees with you as 'terrorist', 'Iran agent', 'Muslim supporter', 'Jihadi keyboard warrior', Anti semite, etc, etc, etc. All your comments and accusations are there for everyone to see. I' ironic you accuse me of herding when you have been doing this all along. Practice what you preach and stop being a hypocrite. But on that note you are a typical zionist thug because your mentality way of thinking id to intimidate and silence criticism of Israel by deflecting from the topic and point fingers as others. And last but not least I am not sure whether you are suffering from Alzheimer or being ignorant to make such ill thought judgment about me. Anyone can see that you started the provocation on Islamophobia thread by calling on me and making pathetic references to invite other members to ridicule my comments on this thread. I didn't start it. You did and that's why I call on such a behaviour as a zionist thug... Regarding your statement on Saudi Arabia that is a total lie. I never said I hate Saudi Arabia as you have lied again and again. However, I am against the West selling arms to this despicable regime that has exported ISIS, culprit of 9/11 attackers, hosing Al Qaeda cells and still you will fins your beloved Bibi in bed with the house of said...But obviously you cannot make that distinction... That old same argument is getting tiresome..The fact that you don't understand the composition of Halogroup structure and how it is varied says a lot. For the record again I do find a zionist thug telling us all muslims have herding mentality and the same as racist...Deal with it! I already have called you racist so no need to reiterate that position... You are a zionist thug who also engages in provocative statements and then cries anti semitism. If you cannot handle the heat then don't get involved. Let me shed croccodile tears for you. Bottom line you are full of it. Feel free to call me jihadi warrior and I will quite rightly call on you. You can't handle my balls let alone the truth.... Correction--->Smug zionist thug

That's a rhetorical statement. I just posted ABD, ABID whatever it is does not mean negro as was suggested.

Like I said I don't speak arabic and provided a reference to the meaning of the word. No need to get shirty with me...

Don't shoot the messenger. It came from the article posted earlier. There is no mention of negro...Servant yes but not negro as it was suggested. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abeed Abeed (Arabic: عبد‎‎, plural Abīd عبيد or al-Abīd العبيد) is a derogatory term in Arabic meaning "slave". The name has been explained as an allusion to the submission that Muslims owe to God (Allah). Meyer dismisses this as "efforts by propagandists [to] explain the term away [that are] at the least, disingenuous".[1] However, the derogatory abuse of the word does not negate its original meaning or spiritual implications. Linguistically, the word Abid (Abed) is from the Semitic languages. In Hebrew, the name Obed means "servant" or "worshiper," and the Arabic word abd, abid, or abīd(often written without a vowel in translation) means "slave" and has been applied to a Muslim as a "slave or worshiper of God (Allah)." The implication that a Muslim should strive to be a "completely devout servant of God" is based upon Quranic verses that state that Muhammad, even as God's messenger, was simply a Abid (i.e. a slave or servant) of God. This usage of the term was implied from Islam's inception in 600 AD and precedes the derogatory use of the term in the Sudanese conflict of the 20th century.

I didn't know what that term meant until I looked it up as I cannot speak arabic but there is no reference to the word Negro. As the article suggests it's a made up word for propaganda in that article.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abeed

My response was to bush cheyney not you but you decided to butt in as usual as if you and BC are the same people... You have too much time in your hands to write essays that are not easy to read as they don't makes sense or change the wordings or write pathetic rap songs...Good luck with that. I don't have that time. However, do not be under any illusions. You are on my radar and I will provide you with a response logically and succinctly.

Smug you are sir...Don't even doubt it. You will be provided with the 'appropriate' response in the right time.

Looks like your beloved 'Israel' that you talk so highly of and draw parallel with other countries is not exactly free from crimes against other countries...Maybe rue et al and Cohen & Co can join in and sing along Kumbaya for victim Israel and place the blame on palestinians, arabs, iranians, turks and virtually the entire world.... There is no moral justification to exonerate Israel of its crimes against palestinians when it is compared to Canada...Israel comes nowhere near Canada interms of humanity. Maybe close to the current US admin but not Canada. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ohJkDgAAQBAJ&pg=PT104&lpg=PT104&dq=israel's+collaboration+of+crime+against+other+nations&source=bl&ots=ErhTPgob_7&sig=KyRXQtGgmdINvaScQogvFps8T9c&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjY0dHG2LPWAhVqI8AKHaZeAMMQ6AEIXDAJ#v=onepage&q=israel's collaboration of crime against other nations&f=false http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/01/201311216555732158.html https://972mag.com/investigate-israeli-complicity-with-pinochets-crimes/125566/

Listen Mr Genius....Someone has to knock off that smug look on your face and I guess that will have to be me.... Your selective hearing doesn't let you understand the other points of view and you keep repeating yourself like a typical zionist thug. I repeat zionist thugs who have the tendency to come on these forums and ridicule others that oppose them. Well congratulations for lumping all arabs as a bunch of herds because they have dislike for jews. It's not as if you have any love for muslims and arabs. So instead of preaching how I should speak focus on your own act and tantrums that you are well known for. Now go and throw yourself a party for making such silly accusations. I have no respect for zionist thugs like you who insult others and spew hatred towards another religion. It is exactly this kind of behaviour that doesn't buy you any sympathy and what you stand for from those who know exactly what you are up to. Now....before you go on with your anti semitic rants look at yourself in the mirror and how many people you have offended with your bigotted, racist remarks....

Stick to daytime job...

Wtf are you on about? Speak English. Oh wait it's not just your English...It's your incoherent babble and just making some noise.

You see what I mean. We always deflect the conversation to Canada.... And then there's Australia and it carries on...when are we ever gonna have a constructive objectivism?

Oh please you don't start that jewish state with me. One rue is enough to give me a headache don't need another one. What I sm saying is this: Israel pretends to act like a civilised country but in reality some of their policies vis a vis palestinians like illegal settlements is barbaric. The state of Israel is like what South Africa used to be segregating people in ghettos...Israel is not a democracy by definition but a quasi secretive military complex....