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That will still not change the result Canada wins. It is due to Canada side limit the freedom of the people who want to move to Canada. China did not take away the freedom of the people from moving. How absurd? How do you know? How about the 300000 Canadian now in China? did they come back? If they did not, what make you think all Chinese will come?

They all controlled by media, if not they will not win in election because most voters are brainwashed by mess media daily. Their similarity is larger then their difference. They can all promise something then say no one is possible to do that after elected. Basically, give some lies to people. the several people are a too small group, they are similar, they have their common own interest, that is different with the interest of the most people. If you are in Toronto, the choice is only Ford and Smitherman, all others are just decorate that will not be elected. Just like in China many years before, only 3 people printed in each vote paper. I did not see any difference. Most people have no choice for Harper. Let alone Iggy, who knows how he suddenly become the chief of liberal. And the close door talking between Iggy and Harper, between GG and Harper, is that your choice? Are you able to change that?

Why 300000 Canadian now live in China? That is 1% Canadian population now living in China. If 1% population of China live in Canada, that would be 13,000,000, almost half of Canadian population. Canada win.

If another man do this to you not in airport but in street, or to your wife, or to your gf or other, do you still believe no right has been violated and you will keep silent?

I guess US like another war again. Every US president need a war to help the weapon makers sell the weapons. Obama did not launch a new war yet and his other changes are fail. So he may not be able to change anything at all include the war. So I guess he want keep flirt near NK until NK angry so that he can launch a new war, is this possible?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_ER4t6KTdw Western media is continue losing its credit.

Free multiparty elections in west country is meaningless. All the candidate are same to yield to corporate media. NO free mass media in west country, it is controlled by several powerful people. Democracy is lie. What they want is only robbery from its own people and robbery from the entire whole world. Period.

yes, all of them.

Go to china to find if that is available, just a ticket, I think you can afford that. If you modify your stance, that means, when you see the truth, you have the courage to admit it, at least I can modify mine and think you have honest.

http://blog.tianya.cn/blogger/blog_main.asp?BlogID=752007 All articles from this author are blaming gov in China here. http://www.tianyabook.com/zhexue/lusa/index.html talk about democracy in US http://bbs.news.163.com/bbs/60anni/175383348.html talk about democracy. http://bbs1.people.com.cn/postDetail.do?boardId=2&treeView=1&view=2&id=98375211 talk about relationship of government and people, talk about democracy http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6178d6620100hffl.html Discuss What blocks democracy in China. http://mengtianxia2008.blog.sohu.com/138808565.html There is public interview about one's thinking able democracy and freedom. -------- just too many, you can spend all your life to read those if you like.

google translation. I am busy now. good luck.

Those are bbs that every Chinese who has a computer can access that. The 2nd one is own by offical People's Daily, the 2 others I have no idea, it was there for very long time, I use the 1st one since 1998 long before I came to Canada. If it is not official, at least it has good relationship with the gov. I guess the 3rd website is owned by private, I am not sure. There are often posts that discuss democracy, human right there. You can find a lot that blaming government in each of the web site. And you can find more from other web sites. If China does not have top number of website, it should be at least at the 2nd place. And the internet population is the world's largest. It is just too many. The reason why I said western freedom lie is, that one of the hongkong website (http://blog.ifeng.com, people in China can access it) delete those posts that against democracy and remain only the opposite posts. That is the best example about the truth of so called "freedom", you can only support it, you can not against it, otherwise, your opinion will not appear in the west corporate mainstream media. On the other hand, on Chinese Official People's Daily, there was an artical called "Democracy is a good thing", I did never find any "Communist is a good thing" in western mainstream media China has more freedom.

Give you some Chinese website as examples. You can find plenty of them if you can read Chinese. If you go to China and talk with them, you can find more. http://bbs.news.163.com/list/society.html http://bbs1.people.com.cn/boardList.do?action=postList&boardId=1 http://www.tianya.cn/new/publicforum/articleslist.asp?stritem=free

Lie. You are a brainwashed poor frog in well too. People in public denouncing the government in China is far more common than in Canada.

That means only US and Canada are not freer than China. They are not better in freedom at all. Don't try to teach me about human right, democracy, freedom. I know those lies just to fool people here for votes.

It is not incident, it is army kill students in campus. For the tanks, how about Bonus Army? How about President Hoover ordered the army to clear out the veterans in Washinton DC? The infantry and cavalry were supported by tanks, and commanded by Army Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur? .... that are incident too? all killing in US are incident? all killing in Canada incident? Robert the Polish guy killed incident? Dudley Georgy incident? native kids send to Residential Schools and be killed incident? Colonists kill aboriginal people and rob their land incident? You propaganda can only fool those brainwashed people.

That is really what you want. Guns are everywhere. People are more likely be shoot in your country than in China. Democracy, Human right, Freedom? all are lies.

You brainwashed by western media. You win.

That is the liar from Western media. There protesters run over by US tank in Iraq, aren't you from US? How about protesters shot dead in Kent State massacre by US army?

Liar, those are in jail not for campaigning for democracy, it is for the same reason as here: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=17027&view=findpost&p=577155 Many Canadian sitting in jail stripped for campaigning for democracy such as during recent G20 summit in Toronto.

Chinese read news from Chinese media, from middle east media, from NK/SK media, from Russian media, from Japanese media, from India media, from western media. You read western media only. You win.

Queen is a foreigner. Canada win.

You are able to know a media forgettable without have watch/read/listen that media just like frog in well believes that sky is a small round circle. You win.

What is the relationship between CBC and CNN? Does Canada has its own media? Canada receive news without need its own media, Canada wins.

Most Canadians receives only corporate media information, they don't even know the name of the news agencies in China that have world's largest audience. Almost no one in China who receives information don't know Associated press, Reuters, and others. Canada win.