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nice one. justifying the IDF use of human shield? okay. so all your responses have gone back to the same thing; blaming hamas for using the population as human shield, when such allegations have been proven to be false. to top off your biased approach to this conflict, you even had the nerve to apologize for israel using palestinian civilians as human shields? israel killing 900+ civilians was really hamas' fault because hamas used its people as human shields. not sure how a person can have an honest debate with apologists like you when you keep countering reality with lies. here is what the investigation and report had to say about hamas using the civilians as human shield: ... maybe one day we'll get to the point where you'll stop using baseless allegations and start dealing with proven allegations to talk about this conflict.

if you think the unrest in france has anything to do with islam, then you're clueless about the situation and you need a good slap from reality.

you're a funny guy. looks like you're trying to upstage the holocaust denial funny guys.

yep. it's all made up. dancer has taken a new job.

israel has not been able to disprove the mounting evidence showing that they've committed war crimes. they refuse to participate in or cooperate with in any of the independent investigations. for a country who claims to be 'innocent', they do a miserable job showing that they are. okay. now your turn to make excuses.

no it doesn't. you're being dishonest. my 'endless focus' is on israel's violation of international law. not sure why you have a problem with that or equating that to me, begruding israelis from having anything else. i haven't talked about anything that does not involve breaking international law, so your statement about me 'begrudging israelis from having anything else' is dishonest. i made a false comment about krusty and after he showed that i was wrong, i admitted to it and i apologized. if you are not willing to admit to your false claims, and want to continue to defame me and others, i rather not continue discussions with you.

that's a good war crimes apologist statement you made. it's too bad the investigations and also the IDF soldiers' testimonies have revealed israel has targeted civilian areas, with no or little regard for the civilians being killed. this is why israel is being accused of committing war crimes.

when it comes to this conflict, israel has repeatedly said one thing but has done something else.

so you're saying that you can't find comments to support your claim that 'myself and kuzadd begrudge israelis from having anything else'?

israel does not target civilian areas?

you failed to respond to pretty much all the points. because you're unable to counter reality. i'll repeat: a mistake is a mistake. but when you see these things repeating and you see the number of civilians killed, civilians injured and civilian buildings destroyed, then it's understandable why it's called a war crime. these incidents go beyond F16's dropping bombs. there are also much evidence of soldiers shooting civilains in numerous occasions. proof that has been verified by israeli soldiers. there are also proof of israeli soldiers using civilians as human shields, again, verified by israeli soldiers. over 300 children were killed. not sure what you mean by reducing civilian casualties. the phone calls did nothing to help the civilians as shown by AI. many received the same phone calls. no place was safe to go. even the UN buildings were hit by israel. they have been verified by the people who have been killed and the building that have been bombed. wouldn't you say that's a pretty good evidence? the statements given by the palestinians have all been verified, because the same allegations have been made by several people. the very same type of research and investigation was done for the holocaust victims. unless of course, you mean, that these palestinians got together to make up a story and then demolished their homes and then faked the deaths of their families. hamas was found guilty of committing war crimes by AI. however, in regards to using people as human shields, after their investigation, they verified that the only people using civilians as human shields was the IDF. eh? read above. people being killed either by explosions or by being crushed under their property is a pretty good evidence, don't you think? you're wrong and have no idea what you're talking about. they are a signatory to the geneva conventions. they are obliged to follow the rule of the war. even israel acknowledges this. it might be fun for you to make up rules of war, but i rather not waste my time in responding to them.

so you're saying that europe, canada and US will become target practice just like you've claimed israel has become?

so are you going to find comments made by myself or kuzadd to support your statement: "For the same reason that Kuzadd and Dub begrudge Israelis from having anything else..."

we should judge everyone on the same standard set for everyone. a standard we're all a signatory to. israel is violating international law by having the illegal settlements there and continuing to expand them. not to mention other violations which have already been mentioned.

no. i'm not going to try to debate bullshit. i can't take a person who makes stupid comments, seriously enough to debate them on it. he's turning into another DoP.

i only begrudge israelis from having things that are not theirs, like the arab lands that they continue to steal and taking away the rights of both palestinians in the occupied lands and in israel. if you've seen anything else besides those, quote me on it. otherwise, you'll end up looking like DoP.

i don't think there would be any peace groups (arab or non-arab) who can better understand or is able to justify israel's violations of international law and violation of humanitarian laws. there are, however, many groups who speak out against violence on the part of palestinian militants.

the debate has mutated into this from when krusty claimed that 3 civilians dying is the same as 900+ civilians dying and that they are equal, despite the huge difference in numbers. if you want to know the context, read the thread. frankly, this is another one of krusty's outlandish and ridiculous claims. however, it's nothing compared to him equating the support for gandhi to support for bush.

yes. basically the same.

oh? is that what you said? okay. then it's perfectly understandable. perfectly understandable if you're mentally slow.

you're weird. you know why? because you are saying that supporting gandhi is like supporting bush.

i gave you a wiki link and you didn't read it. here, i'll paste from it: now should the homosexuals and jews should receive the exact same sympathy, krusty?

more babbling and scrambling. why do you think supporting gandhi is the same as supporting bush again? lols.

does this mean that you can't read or understand english? because you just said: and the title says: supporting gandhi vs supporting bush what say you, krusty?