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LOL, In this country, in 2009 and beyond, if we go with online voting we could have 110% voter turnout. Thanks, but when there's no polling station or ballot box, when I can't present my face and backup ID to cast the ballot, the missus and I will go for some fowl at the Chalet instead.

PT, your links are similar to those that dispute his story, who do we believe? Maybe his only failure was his outright stupidy to cross the pond so soon after 9/11. Even for a person like him to do it today, they better have their house in order and absolutely no historic black marks against them. Ah WTH, I'm a Canadian, "my" country will bail me out.

Ah, Molly, but you seem committed to believing the Arar story when there are holes in it big enough to drive a Kenworth. Maybe you should try to jump in and help the four imitators trying to follow the ten million dollar man's lead.

Last two years???, How about ten +. Liars and thieves Liberals are, seems now to my dismay, ingrained in the party. Now, we have Mr. Drop-In, the Canuck by convenience, taking a job that nobody of value wanted. Harper may not be perfect, but he is the lessor of evils.

Mr.? This guy lobbed a grenade at a medic and killed him. He was fighting our allies and should treated accordingly. His family has confirmed ties with the terrorists and he was there, fully involved in their activities. Interogation takes many forms, there are fully grown men who would wet themselves if detained and questioned as a suspect. Are they being tortured? The U.S. can do what they want with him , I join the masses in not wanting him back in our country.

Yep, wishy-washy it is and typical too. I still believe that Harper made a mistake in trying to save the status quo. We are in a financial mess that will take a while to get out of. Whoever is in power will be branded as doing nothing right. Better it be the three stooges whining and sniping at each other. Then an election with a majority gubment, LOL, economist Stevie saves the day.

LOL, someone fixed my double post and got a link to work. Thank you. This old computer dummy couldn't figure it out, a delete button would be nice for mistakes, double posts and , on second thoughts. Back on topic. I've never believed Arar's story. Back then there were rumblings about his terrorists ties and his desertion from his countrys military. And the stupidity of someone with his name/looks/background going back across the pond just after 9/11 is monumental. He shouldn't have been paid for it. I'd have bought him lunch in a very public place and told him to smarten up. Heh. but then he has our millions, maybe we need to smarten up. BTW, there are four more poor mistreated wannabe millionaires in negotions with the gubment, we are going to get hosed again

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...ernational/home Did Arar pull the wool over our eyes or what? Will we ever know the truth?

Hey Chuck, I,m with you on both counts. Not a Canadian citizen, no vote. Cancel all dual-citizenships. Further. if you want to hold an elected office you have to have uninterupted residence here for say, a minimum of 10 years. You're either a Canadian or not, I have no time for Canadians of Convenience.

I didn't say they work 4.5hrs a day, I said class time. And actually I think now, with a sprout in gr8, that it's somewhat less. I believe classes start at 8:20 and I know they end at 2:10, don't forget to minus out recesses and lunch. And they want to cut that back. The preset curriculum is unreachable and ends in a homework overload. We're not getting value for our money. That said, thare are a few teachers that will go the extra mile to help the kids, they are the exception, not the rule. And smart?. There are sub-performing people in all professions and lines of work. Your generalization is far too grand.

PT, you're in love with the opportunistic drop-in, I will continually answer that I can't stand the sight or sound of him. LOL, so there

True enough. The education system is a bloody mess. I'd tell them that we're clawing back 20% of their income and that's for starters. Can't remember the exact #'s but say 6 periods per day at 45 minutes each. That's 4.5 hours of class time our kids get. And where else do you get nearly 3 months off per year. If your sprout is slow or has an interest problem, we're told to get a tutor. Whoa, we pay over 80 Large for the teacher to teach, why do I who makes 1/4, 1/3, 1/2 of their salary have to pay someone else to do their job? Grrrrrrr

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How does one delete multi-posts?

What a mess. I would be thoroughly pi$$ed to find out that he kids were't mine. But, assuming a normal parent-child relationship, I wouldn't walk away. I would however fight the increases and decreases. And a question, a guy is part of the conception process and a baby is born. The guy walks after less than a year. Refuses to ever pay support, and has no contact with the child who is brought up by a single mom and grandparents. Does the conception guy, I can't call him a father, have any rights to the child or is the mom/GP combo the rightfull parent? In this day and age I have a sense that a fair bit of this is going on.

After the school fiasco and remembering the negative option blunder at Rogers I've never been a big fan of the guy. That said, he could possibly be head and shoulders above the lying @#$%& we have in there now. I for one would give him a shot at it.

uote name='Moonbox' date='Jan 8 2009, 06:21 AM' post='380488'] I still think Harper should have let the coalition take over. History shows that governments leading during a recession generally don't fare well in the next election. Harper should have stepped aside, let the Liberals take the blame for massive deficits, and then come back like a saviour. This is what the Liberals should and probably will do. I don't understand why anyone would want to be in charge right now. Yep, I was kind of hoping that myself. Iggy has a "Canadian of convenience" ball and chain around his neck that helped him parachute into a job that nobody worth anything wanted. It would have been awesome to see the three stooges barking and whining at each other on the road to self -destruction.

No, I was qouting Mr (Iggy) Canada, he sure is a winner. I'm an old Liberal, for what seemed a lifetime. Finally couldn't take anymore and will never support them again. Not a huge fan of Harper, but when I look at the choices, including Ignatief, he is the lessor of evils.

"It was ever so"? Huh? I've been retired for a while but previously spent over twenty years in the mortgage biz. You had to have 25% down to have a conventional mortgage. Think about it you buy a house for say $200K, put 5% 0r $10 K down. Now add the ins premium and the costs to close. How many years do we really have to go back to show that someone has built equity in the home? I said 3-4 yrs, just a guess but there's a lot of folks right now and more to come that are upside down on their mortgages. The 11% drop in values(in this area) is just a start. Then there's the folks who've bought today with occupancy 10-12 months from now.

Wonderfull, all led by an intellect elitist who has spent the last thirty years offshore. "I'm so proud to be a Canadian". BS

LOL, Baloney! The mortgages at risk are the fools who have bought houses in the past 3-4 yrs. The ones with the CMHC/GE insured hi-ratio mortgages. Property values here have justdropped 11%, dosen't take much imagination to see that these folks are upside down on their mortgages. Then there is job loss, and the increased costs of consumables brought on by increased transportation costs, in turn brought on by the high cost of fuel. There are dark clouds brewing.

That was then, this is now. The Cons have ammended the act and are supposedly looking at only people of "quality" As I said, if we accept all their doctors and engineers, we are stealing from their countrys. The matter of verifying qualifications is another matter, scary stuff indeed. Oh, and it appears we have had another "honour" killing in these parts, nice.

New here, seems like a great forum. As to immigration, do we "hate" immigrants? I think not, but, we have been struggling with health and education systems that are in the dumpster. Does it make any sense to add more people to them? We seem to want to cherry pick the cream of the immigrant crop. Their home countries probably need them more than we do. Then there's the Convenient Canadian, the one who's pasport is now a Get Out Of Jail Free card. You know, they head back across the pond into the chaos from where they came. Get their butts in trouble, they run up the Maple Leaf and expect us to bail them out. And someday we will have our own 9/11, it's a matter of time, LOL, mark my words.