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EVERYBODY knows that, MDancer! Sadam Hussein was going to nationalize the oil fields. Bush attacked to keep the oil fields safe for the private sector megacorps (the old money families, Bush's backers). The plan is to build a pipeline to India through Afghanistan and Pakistan, to corner that market for oil before China does. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan protect and promote this corporate greed plan. This way the taxpayers pay for the protection of the private infrastructure, not the megacorps ... They have to watch their 'bottom line', you know. :angry: Hillier was asked whether Canadian troops would be used to protect the construction of the pipeline. He said "If there's infrastructure there, we'll protect it." So Canadian taxpayers are paying for clearing the path for Bush's pipeline.

U.S. Wiretapping of Limited Value, Officials Report By ERIC LICHTBLAU and JAMES RISEN Published: July 10, 2009 WASHINGTON — While the Bush administration had defended its program of wiretapping without warrants as a vital tool that saved lives, a new government review released Friday said the program’s effectiveness in fighting terrorism was unclear. The report, mandated by Congress last year and produced by the inspectors general of five federal agencies, found that other intelligence tools used in assessing security threats posed by terrorists provided more timely and detailed information. Most intelligence officials interviewed “had difficulty citing specific instances” when the National Security Agency’s wiretapping program contributed to successes against terrorists, the report said. While the program obtained information that “had value in some counterterrorism investigations, it generally played a limited role in the F.B.I.’s overall counterterrorism efforts,” the report concluded. The Central Intelligence Agency and other intelligence branches also viewed the program, which allowed eavesdropping without warrants on the international communications of Americans, as a useful tool but could not link it directly to counterterrorism successes, presumably arrests or thwarted plots. The report also hinted at political pressure in preparing the so-called threat assessments that helped form the legal basis for continuing the classified program, whose disclosure in 2005 provoked fierce debate about its legality. The initial authorization of the wiretapping program came after a senior C.I.A. official took a threat evaluation, prepared by analysts who knew nothing of the program, and inserted a paragraph provided by a senior White House official that spoke of the prospect of future attacks against the United States. These threat assessments, which provided the justification for President George W. Bush’s reauthorization of the wiretapping program every 45 days, became known among intelligence officials as the “scary memos,” the report said. Intelligence analysts involved in the process eventually realized that “if a threat assessment identified a threat against the United States,” the wiretapping and related surveillance programs were “likely to be renewed,” the report added. ... “While former Bush administration officials continue to argue that their policies made the country safer,” said Senator Ron Wyden, Democrat of Oregon, “I believe this report shows that their obsession with secrecy and their refusal to accept oversight was actually harmful to U.S. national security, not to mention the privacy rights of law-abiding Americans.” Waterboarding, now wiretapping, gross violations of rights, now both found to be unnecessary incursions. I hope we all learn something from this, like perhaps Canada's detention without charges of 'terrorism' suspects is also a violation and unnecessary. Safeguards from government incursion on individual freedoms are absolutely necessary.

Making things up doesn't help either. Is it true there is only one member of the 'militia'?

Clyde Powless?? No "Clyde" involved here. Ya, well the senior in question doesn't want anything to do with McHale or Fleming or his militia, that's for damn sure!! Powless indicated to his friend that he was just trying to make a point and that he’d be gone by the end of the week. But all of that changed-when Doug Fleming announced he was forming a Caledonia militia. “Doug asked me to sign a paper allowing him to remove Powless using reasonable force,” says Palmer. “I refused. Two days later Fleming announced he was forming a Caledonia militia (now called the Caledonia Peacekeepers) and Powless proclaimed he would stay and fight. And now Vandermaas is badmouthing the senior. Pretty nasty. More to the point: “This is a land claim,” says Powless. “Three years later there has been no resolution. The federal government has a responsibility to resolve the issue. We’re all victims here.” Make no mistake; Powless and Palmer are still friends. Palmer can’t wait for this to be over so the pair can once again share a coffee at Tim Horton’s. Powless, a self-employed artist, is passionate about his cause. Powless is very clear that he is not threatening but says he “might have to die” before there is a resolution to the present land claim. “The sad reality is that nowhere has there been an oppressed people advanced without violence,” says Powless.

Protesters are not trying to organize a 'militia' in Caledonia. Only McHale and his lackeys are trying to create conflict.

Tensions on the rise again surrounding Six Nations’ land claim in Caledonia Tensions are on the rise again surrounding the three-year standoff over a first nations land dispute in Caledonia, Ontario. Non native residents of Caledonia recently announced the formation of the “Caledonia Militia” in response to the lack of progress in the land dispute with the intent to “follow established procedures on the use of reasonable force to remove illegal trespassers”. The formation of the Caledonia Militia has caused a great deal of concern over the potential for violent escalation in the already tense situation. ... The formation of the Caledonia Militia has been met with strong criticism from the Canadian Union of Public Employees’ (CUPE) First Nations Solidarity Working Group, who argue that the formation of the Caledonia Militia “represents a major escalation in regard to the conflict at Six Nations … [increasing] the possibility of violent conflict between natives and non-natives.” To show their opposition, CUPE’s First Nations Solidarity Group brought busloads of protestors from Toronto, Hamilton, Kitchener-Waterloo, and Guelph to gather outside the Lion’s Club in Cayuga, Ontario, where the first meeting of the militia was being held. more ... good pics ... http://allan.lissner.net/?p=1628 Over this period, the Canadian government has demonstrated that it has no interest in expediting the resolution of its hundreds of outstanding land claims cross the country, and certainly not those of Six Nations, and this has left the people of Six Nations, and the Canadians living alongside them, extremely frustrated. As a result, some non-Native residents of Caledonia have at times over the last three years gravitated towards the calls and rallies of anti-native, white supremacist, and even neo-Nazi forces. And now, some of these forces are calling for the formation of a Caledonia militia to police the natives directly, Doug Fleming, one of the militia’s initiators, wrote on June 14, 2009 that “Due to the ongoing reality that the OPP refuses to enforce the Criminal Code with regards to people’s property rights I am forming the Caledonia Militia to ensure that the criminal code is upheld in Haldimand County.” Fleming conveniently omits the fact that the owners of the land in question in Haldimand County are the people of Six Nations, who are the true title-holders of the 950,000-acre Haldimand tract that runs through southwestern Ontario. Today, the people of Six Nations control only about 5% of that original tract. The conflict between white working-class settlers and natives stems from the fact that the Canadian government permitted the sell-off of land that it had no right to. Such a move by anti-Native forces signals a major escalation in regard to the conflict at Six Nations. On June 23 at 7 p.m., a meeting is being held at the Lion’s Hall in Cayuga to found this militia. There is evidence that Fleming and other anti-native organizers in Caledonia, such as Gary McHale, receive substantial support from local developers and real-estate interests. At a time when workers in Canada are experiencing attacks on their economic and social interests on all fronts, the institutionalization of racism and settler chauvinism in the form of an anti-native militia will be a serious political blow to the interests of working-class people, especially in one of the most rapidly deindustrializing regions of Canada. The way forward must be to unite our class and resist attempts to have us divided through racism. The real enemies of working people are not the native peoples of the land, nor the Canadians who have settled on indigenous territories, but the past colonial landlords and the current capitalists who benefit from the ongoing theft of people’s lands and resources. Let’s stop the formation of this racist militia and start organizing working-class people against our real enemies: the bourgeois class and its repressive arm, the Canadian state. http://basicsnewsletter.blogspot.com/2009/...-formed-in.html

It appears to me that Canada is a trashcan of racists.

Hamas - 13 Israelis killed = .6 pages per person Israel - 1,338 Palestinians killed = .1 pages per person Looks more than fair to me!

It was not natives, but some Caledonians drunk and feuding, and it became very serious. Nothing to do with this thread.

There was no other gun incident to my knowledge, though VanEvery did stop at the reclamation site looking for someone before going to the smoke shop. No of course it makes no mention of white supremacy. We have hate laws in Canada, remember? It's all very sleazy and camouflaged, but the site is clearly anti-native and so are his actions in Caledonia, and so are the people who follow him. The "thousands" of charges to which McHale refers on his website are bs. He thinks every person who ever went on the reclamation site should be charged, including all the non-native supporters, Caledonians, (media too?), etc. That's just ridiculous. It's just a disinformation to mislead people, McHale's specialty. I have never said or implied that about the people of Caledonia, and I never will. I said very clearly (twice now) that Gary McHale, Mark Vandermaas and Jeff Parkinson are outsiders, not from Caledonia, who attempt to incite anti-native feelings and organize Caledonians to oppose the natives, most recently by attempting to recruit a 'militia' of anti-native vigilantes. When McHale & co are in Caledonia for one of their hate 'rallies', Neo Nazis and other white supremacist thinkers join them, like Paul Fromm, Dave Ruud, Melissa Guille, etc. It is clear from the company he attracts, and from his racist website that McHale is a white supremacist thinker, and Vandermaas and Parkinson too. In example, McHale makes a great to-do about the OPP not upholding the 'rule of law' in Caledonia. However, McHale refuses to respect Aboriginal Rights, but Aboriginal Rights are the 'rule of law' in Canada. McHale wants to redefine the law himself ignoring what he doesn't like, and then hold the OPP to his own version of the law. Absolutely ridiculous.

Video: Solidarity with Six Nations and non-native protesters of Gary McHale's attempt to form a militia in Caledonia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qybe6ArbVwk

Reading all those lictor posts is like wading through puke. Here's a few answers to a few items: Shack shooter gets 4 1/2 years Oh ffs, that's idiot Gary McHale's hate site. Get a grip! The Malcolm X House Site ... was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1984 and a historic marker identifies the site because of the importance of Malcolm X to American history and national culture.[224][225] In 1987 the site was added to the Nebraska register of historic sites and marked with a state plaque.[226] Never. I am a white settler. Never. (waa waa waa!) ... um ... because you are saying racist things. Really creepy racist things. Never. I was talking about white supremacists who want to take the law into their own hands. Oh man, this is too ridiculous! Never ... EVER did I say or imply that you or anyone else "needs to be killed". Not about any people of Caledonia. Not at all. Never. I was talking about the white supremacist views of Gary McHale, Mark Vandermaas and Jeff Parkinson, anti-native outsiders who come to Caledonia, and the neo-nazis who come when they're around. -------------------- Not killed. Not my thing. Just go away ... please. Speaking of reality checks, I think you need your meds, man. Nobody here's trying to kill you, angry old white guy that you may be. You deserve to live long in the misery you are creating for yourself. And for your own safety and that of others, don't believe anything Gary McHale says, and for sure not his website. He's already been caught doctoring news articles (notice he never provides links?). He appears to have no morals or limits to his hatred and need to denigrate Six Nations people, but it's just stupid made up crap. Mark Vandermaas and Jeff Parkinson are the other two stooges. It's really too bad these three guys have no sense of humour, because they could be a deadly comic act. We've had a few good laughs at their expense, especially seeing their faces through the grate on the police wagon. Man, they were hilarious! Sigh - if only they didn't take themselves so seriously and keep putting people in danger. If I thought you were going to be one of the 'militia' that McHale is recruiting, I'd warn the cops right now, lictor, because your rants on the last few pages put you in the seriously deranged category, imo. However, I doubt you will be able to join, because it's clear you are not from Caledonia: You don't know the difference between Caledonia and Deseronto, and you have no clue what's really going on anywhere. Just a head full of lies, and a potentially dangerous attitude. You are very scary stuff, lictor. Buzz off, eh.

Do you ever say anything intelligent? Waiting ... waiting ...

You know ... I'm really tired of the self-flagellating Canadian tendency to disrespect ourselves, saying we have no "identity". Who the hell came up with that idea ... Bruce Hutchinson was it? ... and we've been punishing ourselves for it ever since. Stupid, really. I certainly know when I'm home in Canada, because I act, and people react, the way we do in Canada. Can't explain it, but it exists, and it's comforting to me, and that's all I could want. I like skating and toques and Tim's, and clamato Caesars, lineups at the beer store on snow days, everybody on their front porch on the first warm day of spring and loooong summer evenings. So sue me!

I agree with much of what you have said. However, instead of championing nasty sexist cracks (which all boys do but we don't need to hear them), I'd prefer our politicians actually took a stand on some important issues. Bland pap, party line, boring boring boring ... and meant to lull us to sleep so we don't ask the hard questions ... like why hasn't the federal government resolved even the simplest Six Nations land claim in three+ years of negotiating?

Excellent observations Griz and charter.rights: Where are all the anti-native gripers when the corporate bailouts are being handed out! Could it be ... that the anti-natives are just corporate lackeys, infesting the internet and promoting anti-native sentiments, to benefit the corporate bottom line? Could be ... could also be that they are just: Craving attention Editorial Dunnville Chronicle So how much obligation does a newspaper have to provide coverage to someone who admittedly engages in acts simply to garner attention? This is the question facing Haldimand newspapers in the wake of last week's dog and pony show in Cayuga. In the days leading up to last Tuesday evening, Doug Fleming was asking people to come to a meeting where he would form a militia aimed at removing trespassers from properties in Caledonia. Specifically he wanted to target Six Nations residents who have been embroiled in land occupations in the area. And then hours before the meeting Gary McHale distributed a press release saying, "At no time was Doug Fleming's new group going to be called 'Caledonia Militia'. It should be apparent to everyone that the word 'militia' was used to get media attention. It is unfortunate in Canada that media will not cover a story unless you use such a word..." In no uncertain terms he was saying the whole thing was a publicity stunt. McHale signed the release as media relations for the 'Caledonia Peacekeepers' , the new name of the Militia. In light of the confession McHale and the group have lost even more credibility. All along they have claimed they are only trying restore balance to a situation in which they perceive two-tier justice. Yes, newspapers will pay attention when someone comes along and uses a phrase like militia. One of its definitions is "military force." In Canada the use of a private army is going to get you some attention. It sure doesn't mean you're going to get respect. Surely recruitment conducted for a responsible group of citizens who want, and need to band together for the common good wouldn't need a publicity stunt to succeed. So it appears the goal wasn't to actually form a peacekeeping gang but rather simply to provide an opportunity to step once again into the spotlight. We also have to wonder if the roughly 125 protestors outside the meeting compared with the 30 or so inside gave McHale and Fleming a hint that maybe they're not quite as popular as they think they are. We have a democratic system in place designed to represent us and to solve problems such as the myriad of land claims across the country. Indigenous peoples will be the first to tell you our system isn't perfect but they wouldn't be the only ones. Average Canadians are also frustrated at the lack of progress in this arena. But McHale ran in the last federal election. It appeared at the time he understood that in a democracy you can be elected to carry out the wishes of your constituents. But apparently, if you're Gary McHale, losing just means you take matters into your own hands, democratic process be damned. And no matter how you slice it, that makes him a vigilante -"One who advocates taking the law enforcement into one's own hands." And yes in Canada that means getting media attention but in this case McHale is under a spotlight revealing -through his own admission -less than admirable motives. There is no doubt that OPP have handled Six Nations residents differently than other citizens. They have little choice given directives from the Province in the wake of the Ipperwash inquiry. But there is one question that has never been answered and until McHale or his disciples address it they will continue to be viewed as publicity seeking agitators by most citizens. And the question is simple: Just how have your actions helped government negotiators reach a peaceful solution to land claims in Caledonia? http://www.dunnvillechronicle.com/ArticleD....aspx?e=1636746 (emphases added) Once again, the Dunnville Chronicle lends its intelligent voice to the discussion. Well said! However, I would just add ... imo, McHale seeks attention to impress his neo-nazi and white supremacist followers, to increase his standing in that community. He also is incorporating a militia, part of the 'plan' to infest Ontario with such views, no doubt. Note: News report about this meeting and protest here: http://www.dunnvillechronicle.com/ArticleD....aspx?e=1626658

They do make a contribution. But you mean hold down a job, right? That's doubtful. Most of them really can't compete. You can apply ... but you won't get it.

Well, you've just taken the vote away from all of our soldiers overseas, and the diplomatic corps too. I know if I have done so, but I don't give a damn about you, nor is it any of your business if I did. The right to vote includes the right not to vote, and it's none of anybody's business. Stick your own damn finger in the ink, though, if it makes you feel good.

Oh GROSS!! Mr. Whiteman I mean ...

There are some challenges that people face that it is simply not possible for them to rise above. Your ignorance combined with attitude of superiority is quite frightening. You really have no clue. Learning disabilities: * Heredity - Learning disabilities often run in the family. * Problems during pregnancy and birth - Learning disabilities can result from anomalies in the developing brain, illness or injury, fetal exposure to alcohol or drugs, low birth weight, oxygen deprivation, or by premature or prolonged labor. * Accidents after birth - Learning disabilities can also be caused by head injuries, malnutrition, or by toxic exposure (such as heavy metals or pesticides). * Behavioral Factors * Social environment factors * Cognitive Factors About 10% of the population has a learning disability, and many of them either cannot, or have great difficulty holding a job, and they are often among the chronically unemployed. Genetic disabilities: Most common 22q11.2 deletion syndrome D 22q Angelman syndrome DCP 15 Canavan disease 17p Celiac disease Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease Color blindness P X Cri du chat D 5 Cystic fibrosis P 7q Down syndrome C 21 Duchenne muscular dystrophy D Xp Haemophilia P X Klinefelter syndrome C X Neurofibromatosis 17q/22q/? Phenylketonuria P 12q Prader-Willi syndrome DC 15 Sickle-cell disease P 11p Tay-Sachs disease P 15 Turner syndrome C X Psychopathology: * F00-F09 Organic, including symptomatic, mental disorders * F10-F19 Mental and behavioural disorders due to psychoactive substance use * F20-F29 Schizophrenia, schizotypal and delusional disorders * F30-F39 Mood [affective] disorders * F40-F48 Neurotic, stress-related and somatoform disorders * F50-F59 Behavioural syndromes associated with physiological disturbances and physical factors * F60-F69 Disorders of adult personality and behaviour * F70-F79 Mental retardation * F80-F89 Disorders of psychological development * F90-F98 Behavioural and emotional disorders with onset usually occurring in childhood and adolescence * F99 Unspecified mental disorder Physical disabilities... [People] with a physical disability may not be able to... control spontaneous limb movement• control speed of movement• move quickly or have coordination• perform manual tasks such as gripping and turning a handle, keys or knobs, • holding a pen, and typing move arms or legs fully (e.g., negotiate stairs)• move around independently (e.g., walking any distance, standing for extended • periods of time, getting in and out of a vehicle easily) reach, pull, push, manipulate• perform tasks that require endurance and strength The vast majority of these disabilities, you cannot 'see' by looking at the person, or even by talking to them. Multiple sclerosis, for another example, may not be noticeable at all if the person is not under stress. However, their condition may deteriorate rapidly and permanently in the stress of a working environment. This is just a small sample of the invisible challenges some people face. I hope this helps you understand less able people just a little bit more, and count yourself very lucky if you are not among them.

Boy, this description is sure gonna ... travel! Looks like they hurried on out of here!!

You are saying all Six Nations people belong to "an organized crime syndicate"? I am saying you are inciting racial hatred, just like Gary McHale. And none of your trash talk has anything to do with Six Nations land reclamations and assertion of constitutional rights.

Man, reading that - "sedition" - it's just textbook Gary McHale, eh? Banned from Caledonia, but still inciting hatred against Six Nations, insurrection against the OPP, and showing contempt for the constitution ... it's all there!

Link please. I suspect this is not from Canadian law at all. So if one actively incited insurrection and rebellion against ... say ... the OPP and one expresses contempt for the Constitution as you have ... lead ignorant persons ... incite the people ... create public disturbance ... hatred or contempt for the laws or constitution ... Hey! that's describing exactly what Gary McHale is doing in Caledonia! Man, it fits him to a 't'! And it's pretty ugly.

Like I said above. This neo-nazi.white supremacist wannabe oughta be banned. He's disgusting through and through, imo.