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Yes THOSE planes are all very agile, but the AVRO's airframe was not. They don't have the same sort of fat, swept wing that the AVRO did and they are also all canard-designed. Avro would have had lousy flight performance at lower speeds which dogfighting usually required.

This, I believe, will be the end of probably 4 different leader's careers. Harper will be out without a majority and it couldn't come sooner considering how far he's abandoned his principles. Layton will be out because he's nothing but hot air and bluster and he's done nothing in several election attempts. Elizabeth May will be done because she's just a rude slob and Ignatieff will be out because he's a total lame duck.

Thank you guyser. I'm glad I'm not the only one rolling my eyes at this.

Thanks for fueling the fire! Your clever wit is really shining through!

They are bad arguments. They show an inability to logically elaborate your argument from point A to point B and instead reduce/simplify it through comparison to a largely unrelated concept. It is, however, highly successful against people who cannot detect flawed reasoning. If you could pinpoint the argument I was trying to make here you might have a point. If you read through the thread however, absolutely nothing of consequence was mentioned (OP included). I wasn't making any argument. I never said that analogy was evil and that you should never use it. I said it's weak argument that's easy to disassemble. I'm sorry. What's really sad is that you took my disdain for weakly formed arguments and concluded from it that any form of metaphor or comparison in regular discussion (or mocking banter) was taboo. That's the same sort of lame duck logic that leads to bad analogies!

You're right! Making 'sense' of your ridiculous ramblings and bumblings is about as futile as digging a hole to China. Making 'fun' of you is much more productive!

I've been suspended too many times for making fun of you and chartered.rights to ever be considered for such a role.

Topaz. We can read the news ourselves. You don't have to link every article you read here. Seriously.

Found anything worthwhile to do with your time GWiz? 1500 posts and counting since the end of january. Almost 30 posts a day! I think you're our most avid (and at the same time hilariously poorly spoken) poster on this forum! Congratulations!

/yawn. Keep it up Topaz. You've posted on average about 20-25% of the threads on this forum lately. All of them have been VERY interesting and extremely though-provoking. You don't seem obsessed with Harper at all....

Your posts are so full of BS you don't need to follow the party hype. The opening post of this thread was by far and away the dumbest part of it.

The prisons are something that are easier to justify and explain. The 'tough on crime' stance is something that wins a lot of politicians elections. That's the last issue you'd want to make a campaign about. The aircraft...yeah you could spin it...but the fact is that the CF-18's need to be replaced and the fact that there wasn't a bidding process isn't going to win over a lot of minds. The corporate tax cuts, however, that IS something that every Canadian really understands and can relate to. With the largest deficits in history, what possible justification is there for corporate tax reductions when our rates are already considered pretty low?? I'm sure you can come up with BS reasons, but are there any that actually make sense? The income disparity in Canada is higher than ever. The middle and upper middle class are vanishing and we're considering corporate tax cuts? Wtf are they thinking?

lol I don't know if voting is what I'd do for her...

It is really hard to watch/support Harper lately. I can't really find a lot of good to say about him. We have a long list of him borking things up and I can't say he's done a lot of good. Starting with Maxime Bernier, we've seen a long list of crooks and snakes slinking around in shame after they've been discovered. We've seen him blow his load on anything and everything people beg for (particularly Quebec). With all of his spending increases and his total lack of fiscal restraint, the nail in the coffin for him as far as I'm concerned is his corporate tax cuts. I have no idea why the opposition isn't coalescing behind this because if presented properly he could literally be crucified for it. There is no reason for corporate tax cuts right now whatsoever. I wish there was someone with a shred of political sense that could oppose him.

Why you're resurrecting this thread...I don't know. The Avro was designed to fly very fast and very straight at very high altitudes, and it was designed to quickly catch up to and shoot down high-altitude and super sonic bombers. It was meant to protect Canada from nuclear armed Soviet bombers. By the late 1950's the Soviets had already built the first ICBM's. Nuclear weapons from thereon would delivered by missiles launched from thousands of miles and would fall down from the stratosphere. The Avro Arrow could not shoot down ICBM's. It was largely obsolete before it came off the line. The threat it was designed to defeat, mainly long range strategic bombers, became a secondary threat overnight. As for the rest of the crap you spouted, you're so wrong it hurts. The Arrow design could not be adopted to a fighter role. The delta wing design would have made it impossible to manoeuver at slower speeds and dogfight because of the drag it would have encountered against its flat bottomed surface. You don't need to be an aeronautical engineer to see that. It was designed to fly high, straight and far. That was it.

If the amount of posts is indicative of how scared you are of an election, you must be TERRIFIED GWIZ. You've posted over 1400 times in less than 2 months. You're averaging 27 posts a day. You seem to be fussing, thrashing and wetting your pants over the idea! LoL! Nice thread topic! Keep it up you're making yourself look smrt!

Riiiight. Canada's going to lead the way in that fight....

Aecon is one of Canada's biggest construction/development firms. It would make even less sense if they DIDN'T receive a lot of the stimulus funds. Your conspiracy theories would have more traction at rabble I think.

Oh I see. The classic "I know you are but what am I?" argument. Let me adjust my tactics in this thread to reflect the grade 3 mentality you're using here. You have cooties.

I can't remember where I said that. Are you making things up again, like you do for all of your arguments?

With jokes like that, I'm not sure you could fill a bathroom stall. Keep your day job...if you have on.

You second that emotion? Oh man you're priceless.....

Again, your numbers are complete bulls***. Show us the numbers GWiz. That's where you really seem to flop.

What does that have to do with ANYTHING? My post was about dollars and budgets and PMs' records in respect to that, and you come back with an outdated 20+ year old essay written by a trade protectionist?? What the hell?? You might as well have posted a link to a Hanna Montana website. Not only was it completely unrelated to my post or really the thread in general, it was also a totally balogna essay and has almost been entirely proven WRONG on all counts. Go back to my post and the numbers etc I went over and counter that or admit you can't please. I'd appreciate it.

I agree with that, but Chretien and Martin axed expenses (granted a lot of it was dumped on the provinces) but it can be done if you stick to your guns.