I miss Reagan

Now I see where you are coming from, way out in left field. The key word there is 'fair'. I think we probably differ quite a bit on what you and I consider 'fair share' and how that 'fair share' is aquired and handled. I guess that would make 'fair' subjective. I am personally in favour of the school of thought that promotes a hand up not a hand out. But that gets us into philosophy...

Merci!

What I get sick of is people like you who have this sense of entitlement. Some sort of Robinhood ideology that it's alright to steal as long as it's from someone who's rich right?

Oh I think whining and threats ARE the answer. Look at how well it has served Quebec. I think it is the only way to get any recognition in a country full of appeasers. Besides, I don't consider it threats, I am fully in favour of cutting all ties with Canada and not looking back. I am a proud Albertan and an embarassed Canadian. And it's that kind of comment that I like to hear from Canadians, it just strengthens my cause. A liberal win in the last election was the best scenario for separatists like me. It just proved the utter stupidity we are surrounded by in this country. Ah an Alberta traitor eh, you must have high self esteem.

Appalling? for someone who doesn't seem to like hyperbole you sure use it quite a bit to get your points across. You find a pictures of a few naked terrorists appalling yet don't mention a word about US soldiers being dragged around the streets and burned alive. Typical leftist.

"I love President Bush and what he has done for this country... he knows what it means to be a proud American" -Michael Moore Amazing what you can do when you cut and paste snippets of film and quotes. I just cut and pasted that comment from Moores' own website. All factual comments that he wrote...

I'm not so sure. I think there is more of a commonality between North-South regions than East-West. I think we share similar beliefs for example with those from Idaho who are mad that some beaurocrats from New York decided to introduce a non-native species of Wolf onto their ranchlands destroying their livestock so that tourists will be able to see a wolf on their drive through Yellowstone. That was a little bit of a tangent but I'm not sure the CPC will win an election. I'm not sure it'll be able to stay together. As tolerant as Canadians seem to think they are, they are some of the most intolerant people around. Because a couple of MPs are strongly against abortion they throw the baby out with the bath water. Why does a party have to be so monochromatic? In the US you have moderates and staunch members of each party. I don't think the red-tories and the "former alliance" members will tolerate each others' views.

How so, what advantage do we have? The thing is we don't even want an advantage. We just want a seat at the table. We want to share our wealth with those people who need it. We just want a little bit of a say as to how it is used. We don't want it put towards legislation designed to screw us. Nor do we want it wasted on sponsorship scandals and government museums. I can see how you'd consider our outrage at the election outcome being spoiled, but I don't think you understand what the outrage was about. It wasn't about us not getting our way. It was about the incomprehensiblity that people would believe that the CPC is so radical that they'd rather vote in liberal corruption again. It was a kick in the stomach, to us it felt like a vote against us rather than a vote for the liberals. I don't know what your point is there. But I think many Albertans remember quite well what the NEP did to our province. Well where are you from so I can insult that place.... Jk

It's tough to ignore the media. It's my belief that this is why Canada is so anti-American (and socialist). Nevertheless on a national political scale it appears to me that the only people that seem important are Ontario and Quebec. I guess it's a number of factors that lead me to believe that Ontario considers itself the center of the universe.

Oh thankyou! What would us battered wives do without the east. Give me a break. Do realize how much oil and is in Saskatchewan. It's still a have not province. It has to do with its NDP minded system of doing things. How is it that businesses, like West Jet, in Alberta do so well? It's not because we sit on our a$$es out here. How is it that our provincial government manages such fiscal prudence as opposed to other provinces? Ya right which teat is that? Our own Alberta government? Or the federal government which managed to be so undiplomatic with our southern neighbours that we'll never get the border open to beef again. Sounds bitter, yikes

No you're right there. I think that's a great comment. I know people from Ontario who are great. But that's just the overall feeling I get from personal experience as well as the media.

I don't know. I hate to generalize but.... actually nevermind I love to generalize, In my personal experience in travelling throughout the world is the most "arrogant americans" I've met are canadians from Ontario. They seem to think the world loves Canadians more than anyone else and they act like it. I hear comments from people like Justin Trudeau like "Alberta is Canada's backyard". I'm just going from personal experience.

Caesar are you Michael Moores alter ego?

Good call Kimmy. I think Ontarians are the epitome of what they say they hate about Americans. They think they are the center of the universe and everyone in the world loves them. There is a good book called "Why I Hate Canadians".

There's nothing so dangerous as a fool with a thesaurus. First: where did you get that 20 per cent figure? Canada doesn't even rank in the top ten of oil producing nations and estimates of capacity tend to vary. However, my main point was that Alberta is an economic one-trick pony and therefore vulnerable to the instabilities inherent in a resource-based economy. Bullshit. Battered wife syndrome indeed implies a power imbalance. But to say that Alberta, one of the only "have" provinces with its high average standard of living (due at least in part to the hated federalist system) is beaten down by the east is an offensive hyperbole that both overstates Alberta's case and trivializes real instances of abuse. No wonder separatists have such trouble being taken seriously: they're too prone to such rhetorical leaps to be considered anything but the fringe element they are. So have more Albertans in turn been moving to Ontario to boost the Tory vote there? No, I credit the drop in Con support to the fact that fewer people are buying what the Cons are selling. No need to get offended, come admit it you are supercilious. Anyway I got the 20% number from the Calgary Herald a few months ago. I think it came from a statistical analysis from the US DOE. Choose to be offended all you like but the abusive treatment we get from the east is neither overstated nor hyperbole (now who's playing with a thesaurus?). Throwing farmers in jail for selling their own wheat, throwing hunters in jail for not registering their shotguns, kyoto, NEP. All legislation which directly punishes a distinct region. I call that abuse. But hey if you believe you should go to jail for selling wheat and not weed I can see why you BCer's want to stay a part of Federation.

Well I find you quite arrogant and supercilious. Anyway you seem to be quite ignorant on the oil reserve facts. Including heavy oil we have 20% of the worlds oil. Technology is improving daily making it cheaper and cheaper to extract oil from the sands. BTW everyones oil supplies are dwindling. Battered wife syndrome implies you are abused by a more powerful individual. Psychological barriers prevent you from escaping to a better life. Fear that you can't live without the hand that both feeds you and beats you down. No I think that analogy definitely applies. About more people voting liberal in the west, there certainly has been a large influx of easterners in Alberta since 2000 taking advantage of our more capitalist way of life. I credit the rise in liberal votes to them

There are BC and Saskatchewan separatists though not as many as the 14% in Alberta. An entire separate west would be good because we would be more balanced with the libs in Van and the NDP's from Regina. Not just a right wing entity. Separation should be thought of as a good thing not a negative. We're different from eastern canada. We have our own needs, that they seem to ignore. Unfortunatly we suffer from battered wife syndrome and can't seem to cut the ties.

Come on guys, these parents are the victims. They are the victims of our society. It is our responsibility to rehabilitate them. Robert Pickton is a victim of society. He also deserves a long and prosperous life like the rest of us. He should be able to vote and live in a comfortable Canadian prison for a "life" sentence of 20 years and then be free.

I'm just glad that Canada and Canadians have no say in the world, or power.

You lie.... you must be a liberal

I am an Alberta separatist and have been somewhat involved with the separation parties. Unfortunately the separation movement attracts a lot of radicals. The people with the most passion are keeping the movement going but they lack the charisma that it needs to enter mainstream Alberta. While only about 14% of the Province usually favours separation, I get the feeling that it is a lot higher after now after the results of the election. A good party to look at is the Alberta Alliance Party which isn't extreme. They are not a separatist party but are not opposed to it. They are strong proponents of the Alberta Agenda and have the second largest membership in the province next to the PC's. www.albertaalliance.ca

The problem is Canada has no tolerance for differing views within one party. There really is no point of haveing 308 elected representatives. They all must toe the party line anyway. If we're going to be the dictatorship that the east wants us to be why don't we quit pretending to be democratic and just elect one man and save the money?

I don't think I am. Easterners obviously buy into this thinking like we have some hidden racist agenda. That is the only reason I can think of that they'd vote back in a bunch of theives. I should have been more specific but the film I saw was a lazer projected show on Parliament Hill. It was a scripted dialogue which had the voices of two young girls having a telephone conversation. One was in Alberta the other Ontario. The girl in Alberta was saying to the girl in Ontario that she wished her father was more accepting of different cultures such as Natives. The Ontario girl said that someday he'll change. It was an obvious portrayal of Albertans as racist.

You have a mistaken impression. No-one in eastern Canada sees 'Westerners' in general as racists and rednecks. What has likely happened is that YOU personally or people you associate have been seen as racists or rednecks and you perceive that incorrectly as being related to being from the west. The truth is, the vast majority of Easterners think of the vast majority of Westerners as just like us, our Fellow Canadians. I know for a fact that isn't true. When I watch a CBC special on interracial marriage and Ian Henamansing says to a couple from Calgary "growing up in Calgary, I imagine there was a lot of pressure to marry within your own race" As if we are some backwoods Arakansas town. Or when I go to Ottawa on Canada day in 1998 and they have a film show where they portray Albertans as racially intolerant. Give me a break, the east loves to think of us as rednecks.

I love all these easterners telling us to just bend over and take it up the a$$. Although separation is not likely you will see the fire wall go up. You'll see us opt out of the Canada Health Act. You'll see us start to collect our own federal taxes, form our own provincial police force, and militia. When you start shoving things like gay marriage down our throats you'll be seeing the notwithstanding clause used quite a bit. We may nominally still be part of Canada but will do things on our own even more. That diplomatic office Alberta set up in D.C. wasn't just for weekend get aways.