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Agent Green is todays problem ,,,just wait for it ,,,orange is childs play

From what I read they are paid 40 -50 dollars a kilo But then that was also on the CBC as they filmed the Taliban /farmers It comes down to realizing the world seems to use a lot more than the Turkish licenses seem to provide , hahhaha I know of growers who get 1600 a lb from biker gangs and yet would take 100 to be able to not be growing in your basement Of course we should just open the doors to Chinese wheat and really put our farmers under based on the type of reasoning we hear here.

Not much if you think all those things will grow there Keep increasing the penalties and people will be growing pot at the space station

Hear !! hear !!! well said No matter how many Internet anonymous profiles you wanted to inject,,,,,,,hahhahahaha People here may not be aware of a couple of things ,,,, the spraying in Colombia for the dreaded coca plant and the unnatural horrible rise in Colombian children born with disfigurement and mutation because of it. Sleep tight in your comfy beds some of you as your attitude helps create horror story lives for some others , enjoy your comfort. What is happening on this planet is wilful negligence plain and simple , wilful neglect we deserve the place where I see us getting to

Sorry but that's called support not rehab. The point being there is no rehab only support. You could call anyone you wanted when I was on the street ,still meant nothing! Some here think they give out magic solutions or other medicine to stop kids from drug abuse like alcohol mostly.

This should be added and this thread kept up to date. Sorry for the duplication. I will keep this one current. Cheers VOTE GREEN FOR YOUR KIDS !! IF YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE PROBLEM WHY NOT BE PART OF THE SOLUTION ???? ************************************** Media Release For Immediate Release October 11, 2007 Harper's "war on drugs" regressive and irresponsible: Green Party OTTAWA – The Green Party today denounced Prime Minister Stephen Harper's proposed drug strategy as an ideologically-driven step in the wrong direction and ignorant of evidence-based research. Last week, Mr. Harper announced his intent to spend $64 million in a war on drugs, focusing on punishment and enforcement – not prevention. "Mr. Harper is far too eager to sign Canada on to a Bush-style war on drugs that has spent billions and achieved nothing," said Green Party leader Elizabeth May. "An overwhelming body of evidence supports the notion that an effective drug strategy would focus on prevention, treatment facilities and harm reduction programs. "Mr. Harper preaches prevention, yet spends many times the funds allocated to prevention on enforcing antiquated drug laws and punishing drug users. This approach is akin to simply burning tax dollars and is severely damaging to society. Instead of listening to the facts, Mr. Harper is trying to appear tough on crime in a desperate attempt to grab votes." Jared Giesbrecht, Justice Critic for the Green Party, added that the 2002 Senate Special Committee on Drugs and examples from European countries have led the Green Party to the conclusion that it is time to legalize the adult use of marijuana, developing a taxation rate for the substance similar to that of tobacco. "Mr. Harper's plan to impose tougher penalties on users of marijuana and other drugs is a misguided approach. Substance abuse is a medical issue, not a criminal issue. Simply spending more tax dollars on drug law enforcement is not the answer. Canadians want to see a comprehensive anti-drug strategy that gets to the root of the problem, not Harper's patch-work agenda that seeks the quick fix." Mr. Giesbrecht added that the Green Party would fund and expand safe injection sites, like the Insite clinic in Vancouver, that are proven to save lives. -30- Contact: Camille Labchuk Press Secretary 613-882-4761 [email protected]

She is at home recovering from hip replacement. Adrianne Carr will be in Ottawa for a press release tomorrow giving you all some thing more to think about. You are free to stand up with a political party and put your money where your mouth is. Lets hope your wallet really is as big as your mouth , then we can really educate the voters cant we? !!!!! THE GREEN IDEA'S ARE BETTER THAN WHAT I SEE OR HEAR !!

Say what? I spoke up because you asked not to sell you.

That and 25 cents and I can almost make a phone call. ha 40% will never vote for us. You are obviously of that group. Thanks for your comments anyway and we do note the seemingly fearful acknowledgement of our work indeed paying off at least with in your group. Layton has already probably read my question,,,, that's all I was after so that when what I personally warned him of ,,happens AND !! he then starts standing back up for Canadians ,,, all Canadians not just the ones who use ATM's We will both be happy. Dont say one thing for our votes than another against us for someone elses vote

Unlike you all of my voters are human hahhaha and obviously not greed possessed mutated DNA like some others roaming free spreading poisons over their poor self esteem Some from those must be who you must hang with as we are for sure not from your group.

*******Which would be forced rehab for addicts******* hahahhahhahahhahahhahahhahhahhahahahhahhahahhahahhahahahhahhahhahahahahhhahahaaa aaaaa ok PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS PROCESS and PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT FORCED REHAB IS ,HOW IT WORKS, AND WHAT ITS SUCCESS RATE IS OR MORE IMPORTANTLY ISN"T? hahhahhahahahahahaha Yes lots are on the street because they wont follow the rules at home ,, Like take your cloths off and come here. Like I will be coming to see you again tonight Like go get the bat I beat you with last night. Some of you live in such fantasy worlds of white bread and sugar crumbs all cosy like,,,,hahhahhaha 8 Americans get off for beating a black boy who dies the next day because they disbelieved he was ill sad part is I like the jury watched it all on the video of it,,some one took,,,,bizarro world we live in when they all got off as my eyes are definitely better than those 12 Americans go ahead and tell us the way it is out there Mr expert

No actually we don't. When we eventually do what I have explained and prefer with the Taliban they will just take off their uniforms and go back to farming. If the RCMP came into the village and bought all the pot at what it is worth and weren't going to kill them any more or even jail them ,, well all would be fine and the bikers would probably take off their uniforms and start farming again Assholes in every bunch so you are right we may need a few cops /army around to still kill a few stragglers. By and large things would settle down quite quickly , I volunteer to make it so. That's just called """a cease fire""",,,,, simple process really senlis will come with me. Maybe we can still give back some of the tanks and trade it in for hospital equipment or school equipment Bottom line is all it takes is to stop trying to stop people from playing with them selves either through drugs ,exercise ,sex what ever imagine or remember when they would bind your hand for masturbating ,give you salt peter and tell you quite seriously that you would go blind ? the law was the law though then and probably is still very much like that now isn't it hahhaha Just takes stopping trying to rule people and stop their choices by fear and punishment.

I was a homeless child at 16. Lived in a 1964 Galaxy 500 Ford behind my high-school. Ate MacDonald's everyday for months so I know its harmless. Over a long stretch of time its very many different people in the homeless scene. They come they go. What we all really all need and deserve ,, seeing as we are the richest on the planet and pay so much tax ,, is 24 hour a day staffed community centers with medical clinics attached to them and themselves attached to old folks homes with palliative care and those again attached to the local day care unit all based on the population size in the surrounding area and then all peoples lives can improve especially for the ones who are only passing through like I was and only needing a telephone Number or fax # or even just computer access to get a job (people have no clue no many cant get a job(a decent job) with out things like we take for granted,,a shower ,clean cloths a resume!!)) and the hard core drug or insane types can still be given blankets and human kindness once in a while as they still stumble through their lives. No one needs to die by themselves any more certainly not in our cities and not with the tax's we pay now. Lets just stop buying guns for a bit.

Thank you for that!! I can tell you that I am no hypocrite not by a long shot. Everyone in the GREENS is from some other party and all tired of the bullshit of party politics. Myself personally look at it as my bi-annual shavluk funded tax payer/citizen public service message and am comforted by the fact that after 40,000 deaths a year just as they were inpaled on their own steering colums and because of that after 59 years since we invented cars ,,sanity was then heard and we got seat belts. I only need to put in 42 more years . I am Canadian but a human rights activist first.

Unless you were one of those Canadians with an actual memory and can see the smoke screen for what it is and see that Harper added 3+ new choices for them to consider when they in fact shouldn't be exploring any thing but the one that is in place. It should be clear to all Canadians that Harper seems to want to keep us there. Good shell game distraction, Yes come over and lets evaluate how we cant end this. Simple question: Do you want us to have our children dying in Afghanistan after 2009 holding the Americans golf bags or don't you?

I think he means well but is trying to please everyone including and especially himself. Self delusion is a weakness here maybe? Follow through is also something maybe lacking unless supervised? Likes the lime light and attention and traveling As I said a basic will to be doing good just lacking the confidence to appoint the proper experts to help grow his network instead of his usual slow sure feel your way approach to growth , needs the first example for any real breakthroughs. Too thin skinned for compromise. What makes the ndp all that different from any of the other parties ? Really. Who is seen as analyzing the data correctly and then taking the risks for Canadians? Are ATM's truly more important than the drug war and people dying on street corners? It takes risks to truly lead and a whole lot of passion and they all say they will lead but rarely do they really make it seem like they do that. Yes the party has drifted from its roots just because of trying to please without taking any actual real risk. This after saying they will be and want to be in fact the party of the people. Vote GREEN because we will lead with a team and have everyone talking already about one of our main issues and wearing GREEN ties yet we don't even hold a seat yet!

I will not be surprised to awake tomorrow and see the press release either ignored or used in the way it was with and against jack layton. The drugs will be there whether we choice to acknowledge that fact or not matters little. Crime will be accidentally killing innocent people over the now more profitable drug dealings and Harpers minimum sentences. Every killing in the country is now seemingly drug related based on the latest RCMP member just gunned down. The RCMP should not be enforcing the racist morality based laws of cowardly politicians long since dead. It is insanity to continue the way we have. Thank you Elizabeth May for having the guts to stand up to the hypocrisy of the other parties !!

Is the sun an American possession? As it travels through their air space ,,still ,,sadly I know of Americans who are as embarrassed as I am with this Bush Regime. Homeland security so far doesn't seem to make any one feel safer , but then that really wasn't its true intention was it?

No matter what the Americans nor the Taliban say the opium trade in Afghanistan has fluctuate very little for going on about a thousand years now. So OK ,,kids can now buy a coca cola in down town any where Afghanistan for a gram of opium but its always been there I agree with senlis and it is going to happen , eventually

yeah if I had a magic wand and could remember the spell for ""TRADING PLACES"" Man oh Man would we have fun!!!! Just kinda of makes me feel sorry for their ,, ehem loved ones!!! owoowowow

As soon as I can stop holding my breath and exhale with justice ,,,in Canada I will learn how to speak academia just like the factory programing some have been burdened with.

For the sake of speed I will plagerize. By the by what is OP? from ,,, http://enmasse.ca/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6965&start=0 Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who cares? Of all the possible injustices to get all excited about this has got to be the dumbest. It is my information that three people are in jail in Kingston on security certificates, and have been held without charge. trial, or even the right to see the information which has resulting in them being held for five years. They are now in the second month of a hunger strike. I hope that puts your complaining about dope in perspective. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That is shocking and terrible that people are held without trial. But Canadian Marc Emery is facing a mandatory minimum 10 years in a US jail for selling marijuana seeds. That's also shocking. Around the world, the global drug war is a major source of war, violence, political instability and loss of civil rights. The global drug war includes herbicide spraying campaigns in South America which poison water and kill livestock. It includes military campaigns which kill thousands. The war on drugs is deeply tied into what is happening now in Afghanistan, and many other global conflicts. The war on drugs has resulted in America becoming the world's #1 jailer. In the US, there's thousands and thousands of cases of people suffering extremely long sentences for minor drug crimes, and Canada is heading in the same direction. The work to end the drug war is not about me wanting to be able to smoke weed. I already smoke lots of marijuana. My efforts are to end the global drug war which results in a great deal of death, destruction, environmental degradation, and is a prime reason why we're seeing the expansion of the prison-industrial complex. The "war on drugs" is a war against all of the world's most sacred and beneficial plants. Virtually all the plants banned by the war on drugs are considered sacred allies by some indigenous people. Coca, poppies, marijuana, psilocybe mushrooms, etc etc, are all wonderful, potent allies to humanity. The war on these plants is also a war to eradicate the cultures of many indigenous peoples, and to replace these medicinal plants (which should be free for anyone) with expensive, patented pharmaceutical medicines. The war on drugs is also very racist and also class based. In the US especially, but in Canada too, the poor and minorities are vastly over-represented in the jails for these "victimless crimes". The war on drugs is also a major cause of urban crimes, including theft when addicts steal to get money for their drugs, and gun crimes as gangs fight for turf. There used to be laws in place which penalized people for having sex with someone of the same gender. Although homosexuals still suffer discrimination, there is no western nation which makes homosexuality illegal. But there are still many laws in place which penalize people for what they choose to grow in their garden, and it is government policy to put those people in jail. Heck, it's even because of the war on drugs that we can't grow hemp in any significant way, which could definitely help us preserve our forests, enrich our diets, provide a great source of bio-fuels and even help us deal with the challenges of climate change. These are just some of the reason why I care about ending the war on drugs. Certainly the war on drugs is not the only issue facing the world. But I don't understand when people say that it is "not important." some of the feed back at other sites in response to this issue,,,,,,, here's a great one ,,,,,,, Viewing this issue as simply about legalizing or decriminalizing marijuana tends to place this issue fairly low (like off the radar) on many people's progressive agenda. Viewing it as putting an end to the war on drugs elevates the issue to a top priority. The war on drugs is the cutting edge of fascism in America. It is absolutely central to the loss of civil liberties, freedom and justice in America, and paved the way for the final removal of civil rights protections under the banner of the war on terror. We in Canada are perpetuating a war on our own citizens under our current marijuana laws. This is unconscionable and obscene and must not be allowed to continue. We have been lied to with our own tax dollars for decades. When I met with my local Conservative MP about this issue, he was more knowledgeable and sympathetic than I expected. He suggested marijuana advocates take out huge newspaper adds destroying the current myths about marijuana which keep us spinning our wheels. The more I think about it, the more I think he was right. The struggle to legalize marijuana is a struggle not only for justice, but for an invaluable and abundant medicine. It is a struggle of truth against lies, and individual and collective will against multinational corporations. It is very difficult to exaggerate the harm that has been caused by the war on drugs. When the dots are all connected, it's not at all hard to argue that legalizing marijuana ought to have the highest priority with all progressive people and parties. again all of you,,, no disrespect but this issue is bigger than most realize and ties to so many wrongs in this and other countries i am ex Canadian military,,an ex revenue Canada legal and licensing officer , an ex banker ,and many more things,,, i am also a father and a grandfather and i am not doing this for any other reasons except for what i have stated and the simple fact that to some one like me,,,, what our inaction is causing ,,well,, IT IS WILLFULL IGNORANCE, and a crime against all of us!!!!

Please ask him why he turned his back on the 6 drug war resolutions I provided to him from around the country for last Septembers national ndp convention just to give the ndp the same cannabis policy as the GREEN PARTY as he asked me to do in 2003 and why did he like all ndp leadership candidates say he would YES legalize cannabis and then sabotage the grassroots support of that issue within his party? IS HE AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT """ NO PENALTY FOR ADULT USE OF CANNABIS"" ??? DOES HE THINK THIS ISSUE IS HELPING TO GROW THE GREENS? IF HE PRETENDS TO BE SUPORTIVE AS HE USUALLY DOES, I WOULD THEN ASK WHY THAN IS eNDProhibition.ca NOT ,,EVEN AFTER 4 YEARS ,,STILL NOT LINKED TO THE NDP.CA WEB SITE?? AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME HE USED CANNABIS OR BEEN AROUND WHEN SOME ONE DID? THANK YOU

Media Release For Immediate Release October 11, 2007 Harper's "war on drugs" regressive and irresponsible: Green Party OTTAWA – The Green Party today denounced Prime Minister Stephen Harper's proposed drug strategy as an ideologically-driven step in the wrong direction and ignorant of evidence-based research. Last week, Mr. Harper announced his intent to spend $64 million in a war on drugs, focusing on punishment and enforcement – not prevention. "Mr. Harper is far too eager to sign Canada on to a Bush-style war on drugs that has spent billions and achieved nothing," said Green Party leader Elizabeth May. "An overwhelming body of evidence supports the notion that an effective drug strategy would focus on prevention, treatment facilities and harm reduction programs. "Mr. Harper preaches prevention, yet spends many times the funds allocated to prevention on enforcing antiquated drug laws and punishing drug users. This approach is akin to simply burning tax dollars and is severely damaging to society. Instead of listening to the facts, Mr. Harper is trying to appear tough on crime in a desperate attempt to grab votes." Jared Giesbrecht, Justice Critic for the Green Party, added that the 2002 Senate Special Committee on Drugs and examples from European countries have led the Green Party to the conclusion that it is time to legalize the adult use of marijuana, developing a taxation rate for the substance similar to that of tobacco. "Mr. Harper's plan to impose tougher penalties on users of marijuana and other drugs is a misguided approach. Substance abuse is a medical issue, not a criminal issue. Simply spending more tax dollars on drug law enforcement is not the answer. Canadians want to see a comprehensive anti-drug strategy that gets to the root of the problem, not Harper's patch-work agenda that seeks the quick fix." Mr. Giesbrecht added that the Green Party would fund and expand safe injection sites, like the Insite clinic in Vancouver, that are proven to save lives. -30- Contact: Camille Labchuk Press Secretary 613-882-4761 [email protected]

All we are going to do is put the poor in jail with these fines. Alcohol is by far safer legal than not , by far! This fine or that fine? No its the wrong way to go and as such I can not continue to comment on these types of views. Mandatory surprise drug testing of all school teachers by next Monday morning will have cannabis legalized pretty quickly. Its not the addicts on the street keeping demand up for drugs.