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Some By Election Quotes John Tory is not a fit for this riding...imho. Turmel has been trying to set a new record for getting removed from debates. I read all the quotes from Johnson and their are many. He sounds like an Ontario Liberal backbencher in waiting. Might even get elected. Too Bad Really.

Progressive Conservatives and Liberals caught stacking By Election poll. John Tory Campaign goes over the top!!! Brilliant!!!! More votes for John Tory, then there are people in the riding. Well done spin meisters and script writers. How do you like this press? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- thepost.ca On Sunday, the vote count had climbed to over 29,000 for Johnson and over 32,000 for Tory. On Monday morning, the number of votes for Tory had skyrocketed to 89,463, giving him 66 per cent of the total and dropping Johnson to 22 per cent. In the provincial election of 2007, the total number of votes for all the candidates was 48,599. The total number of eligible voters in the riding as of 2007 was 81,953. ------------------------------------------------------- You can't track voters by freeping polls.... But it is worse to get caught by the paper!

You need not quote my entire post, as it was the one immediately before yours. That will keep you out of the MLW admins badbooks. Considering that MEDIA invites were sent out to papers as far away as the Dunneville Chronical, and that coverage of this meeting was in the Brantford Expositor, CKPC, and CHCH television in Hamilton tells me TRUE wanted the media there. Considering that TRUE invited EVERY POLITICIAN to Fridays meeting an NONE, ZERO, ZIP, NADA, came out who resided and represented Brantford and Brant riding speaks volumes of their interest in understanding Land Claims or doing their duty on behalf of their constituents. ZERO is a BIG F9038403ing NUMBER when over 13 Politicians from Brantford are invited to one of the most important issues in their riding and they don't show. Compared to the fact that TRUE invited politicians from Caledonia and Haldimand and they came to Brantford says volumes about their interest in dealings with land claims and willingness to participate in a TRUE meeting. I can tell you for certain, you don't invite Politicians and the Media if you DON'T want them to come. I understand that TRUE is an open forum, much like a town hall meeting. There is no doubt that TRUE wanted these people to be in attendance. There is no doubt that politicians in Brantford are afraid to walk into a room full of people whom they represent, for fear they may get asked a question. No matter what work TRUE does, it is undermined by politicians not doing their job. LISTENING is part of their job. By not being at the meeting, the Brantford Mayor, Councillors, Dave Levac MPP and Phil McColeman, heard everything they wanted to hear. Nothing. Haldimand Politicians who came to listen, are taking back something from the meeting. As for the HDI, its legitimacy is yet to be determined. Who on Six Nations has given HDI legitimacy? Perhaps it will become the Legitimate administrator, perhaps it will disapear or perhaps it will morph into something else.

You have issues. I think you could use a "time out".

Whoa there. The fact that Ignatieff has brought back a key player of the sponsership scandal puts it on the front burner not the backburner. BANNED FOR LIFE means two years in Liberal Speak. Ignatieff has been using this Banned for Life individual for his speech writing, consultation..... and I HEAR HE IS A BIG FUNDRAISER for the Liberals in Quebec. Isn't that wonderful. If the sponsership scandal was dealt with Ignatieff just let the Genie out of the bottle.

You make your nickle off the taxpayer. You hang out with the CPC to protect your public nestegg. Hazel McCallion is a lefty? Come on Argus, you can point the finger better than that. You point the finger at waste everywhere. In your department, in government, at city council. Its time to point the finger of waste towards your own nose. Its MY money that pays you.

Why would your doctor tell you he is a doper? You probably don't live a sheltered life, but there is something questionable about someone saying they don't know a soul who smokes pot. Its just about impossible.

I prefer a little more comment and a little less content in a post. A link would be nice too. Just posting an article in its entirey is not a discussion. (My comments below are coming from some 2nd hand sources, so, bear with me as I try to be as accurate as possible, but it is hearsay, mixed with some of what I saw on TV and read in the articles.) CHCH TV covered this meeting. Toby Barrett, Ken Hewitt, and Marie Trainer found their way to this meeting in Brantford. Missing from this meeting was ALL of Brantfords City Councillors and its Mayor. Brants MPP Dave Levac And Brants MP Phil McColeman were also MIA on a Friday Night. Considering Six Nations is in the Brant Riding, and the spokespersons, leaders, mayors and MPPs From Haldimand and Six Nations made the effort to come to Brantford, I can see why the people of Caledonia feel abandoned by the Federal Conservatives and McGuinty Liberals. Toby Barrett is a Conservative MPP. The Riding of Brant is held by a Liberal MPP and thus like the Liberal Government in MIA. Toby Barrett has signed the petition of Ken Hewitts for a public Inquiry. Apparently Diane Finley Conservative MP for Haldimand of which Caledonia is a party of, has signed too, but she doesn't have any interest in doing her part federally, nor in making an appearance. Local BRANT MP Phil McColeman also a Conservative was not there? The Brantford Mayor was not there, but Caledonia Mayor was and she has received negative press, but at least she is willing do travel and do whatever it takes to move the ball an inch forward. Apparently Every Politician in Haldimand and Brant was invited to come to this public forum. Even Ian Nichols, an NDP Candidate from Haldimand travelled to Brantford. It was apparent that those with the power and authority, who should have been there weren't. Hewitt has made progress with his petition and yet Barrett says his Private Members Bill for an inquiry is unlikely to succeed in the Majority Liberal Government. It was interesting to hear that one of the Largest Land Developers in Brantford was at the meeting and totally disgusted that there were no local politicians at this meeting nor anyone from the Government representing the Federal Conservatives or the Ontario Liberals. NOT A HAPPY CAMPER! No wonder the people of Caledonia, and Six Nations feel abandoned by their politicians who are ultimately to answer for the mess. They have gone into hiding. The injunction hasn't worked, as even with Six Nations Mens Fire removed from the Kingspan Site, Kingspan is suing the City of Brantford for failure to disclose documents they had prior to its purchase of the land. ANOTHER UNHAPPY CAMPER! To see a citizen Ken Hewitt, make the trip to Brantford, and speak before a Group of the Mens Fire, and the Mens Fire to Speak with Hewitt and Barrett in the audience shows the progress that grass roots organizing is achieving vs Government Stall tactics and Legal Manuevers. It was clear that the group was diverse and the only common thread was that they ALL wanted to see progress in the midst of Governments that Are not doing their job and appear to be allowing all the victims of this to be ignored, and unheard. To think that Ken actually offered to rewrite his Petition to accomodate a more direct wording for the resolution that came off the floor from a member of Six Nations was truly remarkable. As you may be aware, I harped in another thread that Ken was a lobbyiest of sorts for the Land Developer who walked away with a fistfull of dollars. Clearly he is acting as a concerned citizen caught in the midst of a conflict, and he said his position has been fluid over the past 3 years because of all the facts that he has learned in that time. One of the interesting facts to come out was that a piece of land is in the courts for 14 years and that is was owned/held by the Province and contested by Six Nations, was then sold by the Province to Empire Homes in 2008 who then began building residential housing. A letter from a member from Six Nations to the Liberal Government asks for comment on this activity. The Response is rather short. We cannot comment on this tract of land because it has been in litegation since 1995. Apparently it brought groans from the audience.

The Liberals are going all out to win this riding. It will do two things. Show that the Liberals are made of teflon, when it comes to the economy, lack of direction, and politically expand into new ridings with good news announcements. It could also result in the Liberals getting rid of their biggest asset if John Tory Loses.

Thank you. I appreciate that very much. Turned out he wasn't at Canadian Citizen though. From Wiki

I hear what you are saying. I would like to point out, that there are many companies that have been humming right along, have strong contracts, and their source of capital has vapourized for a variety of reasons, from tight fisted banks, to dramatic stock market collapse. A tightening of the market can take a strong company or a company that is solvent and send it quickly spiralling out of control or into bankruptcy protection, which then means even more people get screwed, (except the banks) who get their money back regardless. Having been in many companies, I can suggest that a company has many competent people but the organizations often appear incompetent, especially the larger they get. That hasn't stopped many an incompetent company from making huge profits. Sometimes it just can't be helped

Its legal in Alaska, and the US hasn't orphaned the state."In Alaska it is legal both to own and grow marijuana. Alaskans can legally carry up to an ounce of marijuana for personal use. Alaskans are also allowed to grow up to 24 plants at home for personal use. If you ask around, most people will say about 80% of Alaskans smoke marijuana. This is a good example of how Alaska can be so conservative that it starts to actually become liberal. You’ve probably heard about Palin’s 90% approval ratings in Alaska. Just realize about 80% of Alaskans were stoned whenever they were polled. And the other 20% were probably drunk, or drunk and stoned."

This case is exactly where it belongs. Even more important is the ruling that comes from it. I do not have a crystal ball to know how it will turn out. If this case bothers you so, perhaps you should get involved in business where litigation is a business tactic. Many cases can crush a business and many with far lesser issues to deal with then one of Human Rights. And the costs can be much higher to a company defending itself.

Maple Leafs problems are not from INTENTIONAL SPIKING OF FOOD for higher protein. And again, Maple Leaf food inspection is higher for EXPORT then Domestic purchase. I have checked a few times, and you can check, but I haven't found links to the recalls of Maple Leaf Meats in the US. These product lines appear to be separate from the lines for export. Who's minding the mint is our own problem and we can do something about it. Not so certain about those chocolate Dollar candies.

John Tory has moved into a commanding lead on MLW or a TIE, which would still be a victory for John Tory. I was curious to see if he would gather support here on MLW.

Are you certain? How did the car get from Brantford to Orillia? I hear that the woman is part of the Unit that investigates the Police. That may have something to do with "why" we see them charging one of their own. Not a common act among forces. I don't know who you can change the Stunting Law. It appears to be popular amongst the public. People tend to believe that those getting charged, really deserve it.

LOL Little hot under the collar today? I would have commented on this, but, Moonbox outdid anything I could have written in reply.

This could have used its own thread. I cannot understand how someone "Banned for Life" from the Liberal Party becomes the backroom boy for the leader of the Liberal Party? It reminds me of Karl Schrieber lurking around......

Apparently so.

Now you got me speechless....

Ok, so my choices are "two bit blogger" vs Anonymous Posters who are Ignatieff apologists. If you don't like the article let the Author know. But one thing is certain, Ignatieff isn't viewed in the same light, around the globe, and in human rights circles as Liberals view him today. Much of Ignatieffs criticisms were written against him 5 years ago. It was important to many people to find someone with the courage to stand up to Bush and not be an apologist for him. The fact that Harper and Ignatieff shared the same position on Iraq isn't lost on anyone who isn't a dyed in the wool Liberal. I can't believe I had to strike that because of Capricorns post The fact that both Harper and Ignatieff have distanced themselves from a catastrophic and career ending position, one that was opposed by the majority of Canadians, isn't lost on me either.

Can I interest you in a home energy audit, courtesy of the Ontario Liberals?

Were you a teacher at one time?

I highly doubt that. I agree with Progressive Torys assessment of Stickings. The part to which you replied or I would quote it again. He made some valid points and there is enough meat to chew on before hitting the bone, for everyone.

I just want to frame that quote Alta4ever . I thought hell would freeze over before reading that . The fact that it would come from you..... I am impressed. Oleg takes his beatings here and has survived, so he must have a much thicker skin the Dion defenders of the past. I also agree with his comment.