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Actually they did. Sorry.

The problem is that they have no legal standing to attack Iran.

Is Climate Change BAD? How can it be bad when climate is ALWAYS changing?

I already gave you an opening.It is plain that you think like a Cauliflower. Just evasive replies. WHEN WILL YOU EVER MAKE A REAL FULL AND FRONTAL REBUTTAL? <snicker>

Why did FEMA say that they could not explain the sulfidization if there is such a simple and likely explanation for it such as this ? I think that FEMA probably considered this and then considered the possibility of losing credibility based on what would be judged as a weak arguement. I'm not a chemist and I know the folks that wrote 911Myths are fools. Why would I want to engage in an arguement based on speculation with fools in an area that I know little or nothing about ? Maybe Jones is right, maybe he is wrong - I don't really care because I know that explosives were used and that the fact that explosives were used proves beyond any reasonable doubt that 911 was an inside job unless you are willing to venture that Al Quaeda somehow sneaked into the building and planted them - which of course would be silly. Gawd you just don't see what you miss. It is so obvious.

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Bla bla bla...... You still have not addressed Professor Jones weak claim at all. Many ingredients found in Thermate can also be found in OTHER materials. Note this section you ignored: He he he......

It seems to me that FEMA would have explained that instead of saying that the source of the sulfidization cannot be explained. Coincidence theorists like to say it came from drywall (or any other number of equally rediculous sources) but I think the FEMA engineers would have considered that. Yes. The pouring molten metal comming from the building is proof of a high explosive. You may choose to believe that the thermate evidence found by Jones must be the result of environmental contamination if you choose. I don't think Jones would make an error like that. You must explain the hot spots still hot days after the collapses and burning fuel cannot do that. Certainly there is an abundance of evidence that shows there were high explosives. The buildings (wtc1 & wtc2) exploding as they collapsed and big hunks of building being blown upward and outward is one indicator. The building collapsing with the physical damage and heat involved in the collision is another. That just wasn't possible from looking at the NIST temperature / area diagrams and from the amount of heat involved. You are not creating useful arguemnt you are taking the role of an apologist and using very weak arguements that require you to enter the domain of unlikelyhood all the time to justify your side. I see you are trying to argue with ME. LOL. I merely posted a credible link with open minded commentary. Why not argue with them instead? Besides that you seems ready to ignore the problems in Professors claims about thermate "fingerprint". The link makes it clear that the samples are not conclusive.

Polynewbie if you want to try your luck. PM me and I will send you to a forum that destroyed K*lltown.

Zzz... This thread is very mild compared to the ones I mentioned concerning K*lltown where many obviously skilled engineers and scientists along with those who are obviously intelligent made fools of the man. They destroyed his stupid replies so convincingly. You have it easy here as compared to what K*lltown faced. He ran to the other forum to try again and it was actually worse since some of the guys there are professionals in the very fields he was bringing up arguments from to bolster his bogus claims. You have no idea how wrong you are.

Meanwhile about Thermate: http://www.911myths.com/html/traces_of_the...at_the_wtc.html Here is the CONCLUSION section: Snip, Conclusion It seems we can’t be completely sure that these samples are from the WTC, and there’s no way to accurately assess whether they might have been contaminated. The elements that Professor Jones reports finding have already been discovered by other WTC dust surveys, who for the most part don’t seem surprised by their presence. It seems likely that, in all cases, there are other WTC sources that can deliver far more of these elements than you would ever see from thermite/ thermate. There’s also no clear evidence that the suspect elements are available in proportions that match what you’d expect from a thermite/ thermate reaction. And some products you might imagine would be produced, aren’t reported at all. Proof of thermite/ thermate, then? No. Just assumptions, and avoidance of alternative explanations for the presence of these elements. That’s just fine when you’re telling an audience what they want to believe, but convincing the rest of the world is going to take considerably more evidence than is displayed here.

I've never seen that happen. That is because you were never at those two forums. He he.....

I think some of them are just plain stupid. I have seen on two other forums with K*lltown posting similar dumb stuff that Polynewbie posts here and the many engineers,scientists and the well read rip him to shreds. K*lltown just continues his absurd parade of stupidity oblivious that he was COMPLETELY DEBUNKED! NOBODY in two large forums agreed with K*lltow on anything. NOBODY!

All of the talk about 'nuclear bomb production' and all that sort of stuff is just a sleight of hand. If everyone is looking at anything that *could* be a nuclear facility (The quality of United States intelligence data...), they won't look any further into other motivations. Think about it - attacking a country because they have an assault weapon - not only is it awfully presumptious, it's asking for trouble. No, Weapons of Mass Destruction is that phrase that everyone loves to hate - it gets the blood boiling while corporations rub their greedy little hands together. The United States is an economic giant, but it is on the decline - it does not posess the resources to sustain itself, and it is expensive to constantly import them at prices set by another country. What, may I ask, are Iran's chief exports? LOL, Thanks for your NON answer. My question was: You did not explain your claim. Here is a link to educate you.Note that America has negligible participation with Iran's exports. SNIP: Exports: $63.18 billion f.o.b. (2006 est.) Exports - commodities: petroleum 80%, chemical and petrochemical products, fruits and nuts, carpets Exports - partners: Japan 16.9%, China 11.2%, Italy 6%, South Korea 5.8%, Turkey 5.7%, Netherlands 4.6%, France 4.4%, South Africa 4.1%, Taiwan 4.1% (2005) Imports: $45.48 billion f.o.b. (2006 est.) Imports - commodities: industrial raw materials and intermediate goods, capital goods, foodstuffs and other consumer goods, technical services, military supplies Imports - partners: Germany 13.9%, UAE 8.4%, China 8.3%, Italy 7.1%, France 6.3%, South Korea 5.4%, Russia 4.9% (2005) https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/ir.html

Stupid. Tell me, will it be colder in January or July? The point of the article was that THEY did not expect it to be so cold. "Then there was the cold — quite a bit colder, Atwood said, then Bancroft and Arnesen had expected. One night they measured the temperature inside their tent at 58 degrees below zero, and outside temperatures were exceeding 100 below zero at times, Atwood said." I then posted those links showing that Alaska and northern canada is colder than usual for this time of year. Admit it that you missed it. He he.....

How about this Newbie? But one of the things we see with global cooling is unpredictability. I read that last line and it is stupid. Another dumb last line.

The State of Alaska is below freezing for the HIGH. http://www.wunderground.com/US/Region/Alas...emperature.html

Try this: http://www.wunderground.com/global/Region/...emperature.html

"Then there was the cold — quite a bit colder, Atwood said, then Bancroft and Arnesen had expected. One night they measured the temperature inside their tent at 58 degrees below zero, and outside temperatures were exceeding 100 below zero at times, Atwood said." BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

Correct. However at least two PEER REVIWED papers recently published show a cooling in the ocean in recent years. So if it is true then more CO2 is now being absorbed back into the ocean waters.

Dude, if English is your first language, that sentence structure qualifies you for a label stamped right on your forehead. Meanwhile you made a cogent point about the topic?

The notion that global warming or kyoto is just some super leftist conspiracy makes no sense at all. You compare it to George Bush hoodwinking the american public, but i would argue that even Bush believes sincerely that he is doing the right and truthful thing. (the fact that he is an idiot aside). Andrew Well gee only lefists such as Gore,Suzuki,Blair,Hansen, and other well known lefists are the ONLY ones peddling the Kyoto B.S. The president is hoodwinking the public you say and yet he is also an idiot you say. LOL. Im sorry, did you actually say anything worth responding to there? Andrew Translation: I can not answer tommy. You called President Bush an idiot.Despite that somehow he is hoodwinking 300,000,000 people while the idiot you label him. What does that make you? Shall I laugh now?

Guthries rants: Post #4 his first one, the right wing morons attempt, yet again, to rewrite history --- no surprise, just more of the same pathetic bullroar. post #6 his second one, as I said - only pathetic moron right wingers think McGovern told Eagleton what to do -- you guys are delusional. post # 16 your last one in reply to me,My reply in blue. and this(?) is your addition to the thread? No I made two postings in replies to you: Try the more difficult method of posting by actually saying a true rebuttal. post #7 Details please. post #8 Thomas Eagleton resigned on his own, the shit they gave McGovern was for accepting it. The insults currently being hurled is a fraud. I pointed out the truth and you snipe from the gutter. This is the first time you pointed out anything in this thread. But you never actually pointed out the truth since you never made any detailed rebuttal to JBG. Now, does everybody have their score cards up to date? Not yours since you have as yet made a rebuttal in any detail the rest of us can consider. Meanwhile you never did answer JBG to this question he asked you: I stand by my statement that you run off at the mouth. All roar and no substance.

The notion that global warming or kyoto is just some super leftist conspiracy makes no sense at all. You compare it to George Bush hoodwinking the american public, but i would argue that even Bush believes sincerely that he is doing the right and truthful thing. (the fact that he is an idiot aside). Andrew Well gee only lefists such as Gore,Suzuki,Blair,Hansen, and other well known lefists are the ONLY ones peddling the Kyoto B.S. The president is hoodwinking the public you say and yet he is also an idiot you say. LOL.