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Much of the documentation - the existence of those documents - have been exposed. Many of them have been copied and will be presented as evidence at the upcoming Truth And Reconciliation hearings. But even then you may not see them because, just like in Caledonia you are automatically excluded to the goings on because you are not a party to the commission.

Perception to a schizophrenic doesn't make reality - especially for people who know which of them is the schizophrenic. When people are put under stress, their psychosis also creates a similar detachment from reality and they become highly sensitized to paranoid delusions. But you're not under stress now are you, Bill? So you must be perpetuating a false argument for a specific purpose - perhaps to profit from the fear?????? Another detachment from a real situation. People have to read their leases - that is why they are written down. And the government claims it did warn the cottagers at the very beginning. However I have no doubt that the cottagers felt their sense privilege would carry them through. It was bad enough that people put large investments into their properties and even worse that they would improve the cottages knowing full well (or to ought have known) that their lands were leased and all leases expire ~sometime~. Don't count your chickens. The land is lake shore property and some of the cottages left there and now the property of the band are pretty swank. I see a bunch of week to week cottage rentals or upscale Bed and Breakfasts on the horizon for the band. Both needed economic development and employment opportunities that non-natives looking for a reasonable vacation will flock to. It is foolish for anyone to invest in a scheme or property they know will result in a loss. Improving lease hold property equates to that loss unless a counter benefit, such as "enjoyment" or "ethereal profit" justifies the loss. In the end they lost - something the lease agreement was designed around. I realize that you are out of touch with the on-going advances made on First Nations. Why just this week there was a big conference put on in Winnipeg that brought business, economic councils, investors and band government together to make out an economic strategy and to mark the successes many enjoy. First Nations even have their own Credit Union which takes control of their banking out from under the government's eye and puts it squarely under the control of First Nations. There are hundreds of thousands of opportunities - especially in the north - that provide access to employment and business opportunities exclusively to natives, being that most of the major exploration and mining projects are situated on native territory. This is huge and I think you underestimate it. Taking control of their own governance, and projects is one of the first steps in decolonizing themselves. Again you underestimate the capabilities of First Nation people. Once government dominance is out of the way First Nations people are capable builders and operators of anything. You do realize that Mohawk steel workers (among others) built most of New York City, including the World Trade Buildings...? Today natives occupy and have a greater desire to succeed than mainstream Canadians in every profession, vocation and trade ordinary Canadians do. Once these small success shine through there is no doubt that it will amplify success throughout aboriginal communities. Mostly the result of being forcefully located on a reserve built on infertile rock, with underfunded infrastructure and an undeniably apathetic federal government constantly ignoring their fiduciary duty. ...I really don't think.... an apropos statement built on the premise that you really don't know what is going on behind the scenes. Public support doesn't matter and it is preferred by many nations to remain separate. If Canadians prefer not to buy inexpensive and quality goods from First Nations, there are plenty of markets - especially in South America, the Middle East and Africa who are more than willing to participate in free trade with First Nations. And before you poo poo that idea, it is already in place with places like Brazil, Venezuela, Chile and Mexico. And the Annual Indigenous Peoples Conferences promote and network people from around the world.....but you wouldn't know that because you are interested enough in stepping beyond your limited perceptions....

Ah, but there was. You just weren't party to it.....

Aw come on FTA, you don't honestly believe that hogwash, do you?From the minute a suspect is charged there is a concerted effort by the defendant's counsel to limit, cloud or hide the truth. At the same time the Crown seeks to amplify its case, or knowing it isn't that stable make a deal. There isn't an interest in justice...just an obsession with expediency. Community justice forums has offered to take the majority of minor crimes out of the courtroom and into a community setting where justice is meted out through restorative justice, Yet the biggest opponents of such a successful process (less than 15% recidivism rate) are lawyers, who claim that the defendant's rights are being violated without their presence - even when the defendant willingly agrees to it. The bottom line of their argument is that taking minor crime away from that bloated and ineffective court system threatens the income of lawyers. I've seen far too much in my 1/2 of this century to believe that there are good people doing good things in justice. All that anyone is doing is perpetuating the myth that justice is served while those privileged with money or relatives connected to the system get slapped with minor fines or community service that never gets done, while those of lower caste spend time for the same crimes. IMV, there is no interest in upholding law. Just an interest in serving that money that can be milked from those who find unfortunately find themselves on the wrong side of it.

The key to successful genocide is to hide the paper trail that leads the public to question it. This genocide has been hidden from us for generations. And still....the government neither ackonwledges it or takes responsibility for it....

You got ALL THAT? from a hypothetical question? Ok... Now tell us what you REALLY think.....

Oh Bill give up your sour grapes...... The reality is that the mainstream baby boomers are aging and natives are one of the fastest growing ethnic groups in Canada. People will buy Six nations and use Six Nations' services because there may not be anyone else to do the work...just like they have for a long time. That No tax charged is awfully attractive to a lot of people - especially those people trying to make ends meet on a fixed income. And even IF the mainstream goes against Six Nations, First Nations in Canada are on the upward in economic development opportunities. The courts are supporting aboriginal control of, or benefit from resources extracted from their lands. And First Nations are working with other First Nations to network and supply goods and services. It is a huge untapped market waiting to be harvested. As far as cottagers go, or landowner who find their lands under claim, they really have no one to blame but themselves. A LEASE is not permanent and anyone who misunderstands that deserves absolutely no sympathy. In the case of land purchasers, proper title search is their responsibility. Now that everyone in the Haldimand Tract is on notice, they should be doing due diligence and researching title fully. However, finding your title in abeyance doesn't automatically convert to your ownership. If you are to remain, it must be a matter of negotiation - and whether they trust Six Nations or not they must accept the outcome, or move. In the end, urban sprawl benefits no one but the greedy developers. In environmental and natural terms it is a net loss. Gawd, even the province recognizes that and require urban intensification over sprawl. They made a huge mistake designating Haldimand County as a region for growth and would have been netter to allow Richmond Hill the ability to expand into the Oak Ridges Moraine as they had originally planned. No business deal - especially development of land to which there is an aboriginal right - is protected. Even the so-called SCoC cases ruled before 1982 are open for retrial in the context of the Constitution. So if they want to take their business someplace else it is no hair off the backs or Six Nations OR the farmers and villagers who stand against development. Sure it may change the economic structure, but it will send the people away with them. And with that reduction in human pressures on farmland and the environment in the region, that is net gain.

Sure you can when you don't recognize the lower court's jurisdiction. This isn't a "legal" case. It is a sovereignty dispute. The SCoC has ruled that land claims issues do not belong in the courts and that negotiation is the only way they will be solved. I think you are being delusional. The 1840 surrender that the government claims was valid (and Six Nations has presented their case it wasn't) only deals with the Plank Road claim, not the entire Haldimand. The federal government has already recognized that much of the Haldimand was never surrendered. The extent of the illegal occupations is now being examined at the negotiation table. As well the feds have also acknowledged that there were improprieties with the Welland Canal claim and are set to settle that claim (including offering land in nearby Dunville) before Christmas. And lastly, the feds have also admitted that the Six Nations'trust was terribly mishandled. They were set to mark the value in the lower millions. However, in view of the BC Supreme Court ruling that interest on monies must be fair and reasonable, they will have a hard time getting out of this one under a $billion. While it will take some time to open, examine and agree to many claims before them, Six Nations is not only in a good position but it looks like many of the claims may be settled within 5-10 years - pretty good odds given the average land claim takes 13 years each. Now you don't have to agree with that resolve, but gladly your opinion has no bearing on how these things will be settled or how much we are on the hook for.

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It is impossible to discuss serious issue with insentient people. Perhaps if you speak their kind of jibberish something might get through. Did you know that the army engineer corp has the highest rate of homosexual behavior in their ranks?

So Sanghi starts to use your assistant. You ask your assistant to do something for you and he says that he has deadlines on Sanghi's priorty projects. How does THIS make you feel?

Yes. You ARE new aren't you.... Stick around and you'll see why I asked the question. All of it is purely hypothetical.

I would take then that when a difficult situation comes into your life, you take yourself to fantasy land?

The US has a "Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act" that provides automatic native ownership or anything that was found in the ground, including museum pieces and the vast collection store at Smithsonian (although Smithsonian is arguing they aren't required to comply). When Kennewick Man was discovered natives made an objection on the basis that the dead should remain buried and that the NAGPR Act prevented further study. The off the cuff remark made by a science reporter that the skull look Caucasian made headlines and it took months for legitimate forensic anthropologists to correct the false assumption. However, some scientists went to court over it and were able to convince a judge that since the remains may have been Caucasian and not native, the Repatriation Act didn't apply. In the end it could easily be an anomaly, or an immigrant. However, eastern natives do have Caucasoid features and it is possible Kenniwick is related to them.

And of course the bum buddies- AnnusThermopyles and HimDancer - are derail threads with their anally retentive antics. I don't doubt I know which one is the woman....Yes and he wears army boots! Get on with the show, gay boys.....

Talk about a bogus persona....... However, you don't have to believe me. That is what the internet is all about and it keeps people like you locked in your myths and delusions. Good one on ya, buddy!

I'm an anthropologist and have been known to write a report or two on the history of war and the human response for ~some~ Armed Forces.....if you know what I mean. I don't answer questions about my career in the military other than to say I served in a capacity. If you put your thinking cap on then you might figure out why. Hmmmm.... an anthropologist in the Armed Forces....I wonder how it ties together...... However, what I did find out in my service leaves me with a bitter taste in my mouth about the deliberate recruitment and enlistment of society misfits. They are targeted because the recruiters pretend that the CAF offers them something more than just a body bag. It is disgusting the tactics used to enlist recruits.....really.....

Well, since you're wrong ~again~, I would suggest that you talk to US Special Ops. About 1 in 10 of the trainers are native. As well, in Canada native peoples have enlisted in the Armed Forces in greater proportion than any other ethnic group. And you wonder why our government is so afraid of the Mohawks....?

Ha ha ha ha Good One. The Natives have been training the Americans for war for nearly two hundred years. Perhaps we are lucky to have an Armed Forces. It may be filled with pimply-faced society missfits but they know which end of the gun to point at themselves...ummmm....well they did before they were sent to Afghanistan.....

Ok. So your ex-pat Iraqi boss just passed you over for a promotion and gave the job to some 2nd generation East Indian fella named Sanghi. How does THAT make you FEEL?

What we call morality is nothing but mass conditioning. From the time children are born we remove their ability to be themselves and replace with obligations and responsibilities to please us - first as caregivers and then as bosses - under the threat of God, guilt or some other punishment. There really is no morality in society. It is just compliance with the community norms. If however, morality could be born into a society it would have to come from one policing themselves, and not policing others.

Imply nothing of the sort. The legal aspect of land is held in the Crown - the Sovereign that is above the Corporation of Canada and the Corporation of [name a province]. Canadian citizens only have access to land and title rights at the pleasure of the Crown.

Ah, a grunt eh? You never did know what we were doing up there....

Actually, neither to Canadians. We merely hold a "title" to the land which gives us leasee rights. In that tenure, we can only use the land to a plow's depth and the rights to live on it are only there so long as the public good allows it. However, if the public good demands that it needs your rights removed, it is a simple process of expropriation to remove your and your title and hand it back to the government. On the other hand, natives hold "aboriginal right" over their territories. In some cases that Constitutional right has been defined by a treaty. In other cases it will be open to future interpretation (as was recently made in BC). In any case, their aboriginal right exceeds our simple title right, or the Crown right to minerals and resources.

I'm retired from the Armed Forces and went on to work on my profession in anthropology. While in the CAF I was able to go to many places overseas (at the expense of our so gratious CAF) and participate in middle east excavations, as well as some in South America. I taught for a while but decided to drop out of that scene and write and pursue other interests. However, I still receive a 6 figure income, not including my pension.