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Democratic Lies 2001-2003
nova_satori replied to Derek's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
"Rightwingnews" Do you see any problems with that phrase? Let's simply forget about Haiti as well Craig? Because US troops just went their without Clinton ordering it right? At least he doesn't pretened that he served some time. Bush on the other hand.....He'll admit that he dodged it, can Bush say that he faked his years in the air national guard? Because a education in England is useless and only teaches you leftist ideas! Thus ALL people educated in England are leftists! Thus, HUGO is a leftist! Biggest lair? Regean deserves that by far. Then Bush. Then Clinton. At least Gore didn't have to pull thousands of string to get into Yale, and then get C+s. Many of the smartest people in the US and the world get Cs and Bs in Highschool. Unless you'd like to make another idiotic sweeping generalization that all people who get Cs and Bs in HS are idiots! Harvard's motton is NOT pay us stupid money and we give you all As. The best students are getting free rides. Your distan for higher level college is completey disgusting. Do you not want people to better themselves by going to the most prestegious colleges in the world? That internet comment is still funny. You need to show a comparison in how you reach your conclusions. Grant was a huge liar as well. Not only was he a liar but his admisntraion was a den of theives. But of course he's perfectly acceptable to you eh Craig? Um, the right does this as well. Instead of saying Bush is stupid, you say "we are always right, we are always right." How about you get around to fabricating WMD and stamping "Made in Iraq" seals on them, There's no other way you're going to prove they had/have WMD. -
According to the new Time, the "Regan Letters" edition, "He [clark] fought to have ground troops to force Slobodan Misolsevic to halt the killing of thousands of Albanian Kosovars in the province of Kosovo, which might have made military sense, but would have shattered Nato Unity. But the Clinton Administration took ground troops off the table early..." HMMMM. Yes Clark did push for ground troops. That contridicts what you've said before. But then again, Time is just like BBC right?
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Worth about 5-8 minutes of your time Take it and see where you are!
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Um, you do know that Iraq has become the greatest terror magnet on the face of the planet right? Notice it doesn't say they were there before the invasion..... If some special opps found them long before the invasion, before plans of the invasion, you might have some credible evidence...but seriously, this is after the US created the largest magnet for terroristsic in the world.
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Right, like they did in Tanzania? 1.3 million people are dying from Aids TODAY. Do you know how the IMF cured aids there? They MANDATED that the government charge for previously free treatment. Volia! A 53% drop in aids occured. Did the people get cured? No, they couldn't afford it, and subesequently, many died. Also, the IMF and it';s crony the World Bank, forced the governemtn tp charge fees for school, the enrollement dropped from 80% to 66%. Now, why did they do this? Unless they did the above, any loans requested would be rejected. Sign or starve. In 15 years, the GDP dropped from $309 to $210. Literally fewll and poverty jumped 51%. IMF needs to die. Horribly. In former USSR states, IMF and World bank plans have shoved life expentency, off a cliff. 1.4 million are added to the death rate every year. I know you know what happened to IMF and the World's bank plan when it was enforced in Argentina. But here's some stats: 16% unempolyment 50-70% industrial production Interests rates of up to 90% A drop of 2.1$ in GDP Great eh?
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Democratic Lies 2001-2003
nova_satori replied to Derek's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
And that was a LONG, LONG time ago. Neither did alot of other lies, but he said it, and must be held accountable. With all these lies and no one being fired...one must wonder. Do you really think that Iraq hasn't created thousands of more terrorists that were formerly moderates or even pro-us? Na, it's the right-wing notion that killing someone's father won't make they want to come after you! Contained better then the Mullahs in Iran. It's actually 22 million, but who's counting? Are we going to simply ignore the fact that US sponsored terrorists attacks on unarmed civilians as well? They can't do it, but we can? Point A: The Iranian youth want a western culture, they like the US. Point B: Iran has less oil. You condone the removal of 70,000+ black voters from the election results in Florida? Because I'm a right-winger, black votes don't count! -
This would be alot more interesting if someone brought some credible proof with links to a long term study to this debate. The point is, no one will prove anything of relevance at our current level and understanding of genetics and gene manipulation. We have just begun to unravel the secrets of our genes and how they affect us. To declare that there is or is not a homosexual gene is ludacrious! Give it at least another 5-10 years before anyone starts making claims that there is or there isn't. Do not be so arrogant into thinking that our current scientific level will provide all the answers. Humans thought like that before, and everyone knows how many scientific theories that were accepted at those times were disproven by simple innovations. This is the trend, and will be for a long time, if not eternity. So unless you can bring a alien culture 5,000 years ahead of ours and prove whether there is or is not, this argument will go on and on and on, with no one proving anything beyond their own irrationality. Wow, I'm the voice of reason, that's hilarious.
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Notorious Liberal Thomas Friedman On Terror
nova_satori replied to Black Dog's topic in The Rest of the World
All bow down to the all knowing, always right, omiscient craig! lol -
undeinable proof and nothing has found even remotely suggests solid evidence. However, we shouldn't be suprised. George-evidence-is-for-sissys-Bush lied so badly that the US has a sole ally left in this world, Israel.
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Bush's Address To The Un General Assembly
nova_satori replied to tec21's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
that's a rather arrogant claim. it has been argued that the USSR could have won the war on its own. -
Clark, Can He Win?
nova_satori replied to nova_satori's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
The right will attempt to discredit anything. Even if what they say is ridiculous. However, the left will do the same. Except recently, the right has been sounding a bit more ridiculous. By badly you mean less than 5% of the voting population? Have you noticed that Bush's populatrity is 50% of the population? As more lies are exposed, more americans die, and more problems of Bush's adminstration come to life, the popularity of Walker will fall tremendoulsy. The campign in Iraq has probably killed more civilians than Iraqi personnel. Your point? And you think that cutting revenue and spending $87 billion at the same time is a logical economic practice? so you would prefer childish idiots who call french fries and french toast freedom fries and toast when both products were not french in orgin? You prefer idiots who change their food names because they screwed up and cannot fix their problems? Clark is a anti-patriot because he wishes the best for America's long term future and Bush is simply looking for a quick relection scheme. -
Bush's Address To The Un General Assembly
nova_satori replied to tec21's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
That's the funniest thing i've heard all week. How true. Nuclear is a TRUE american. Not only does the US look out for her best interest, but when other countries look out for their best interest, and when those interests conflict, the average American condemns the other nations for not looking out for the US's best interest. you love to disagree with your governmnet, but no one else can? How can you be angry with another country for looking out for its best interest when your own country does the same? Since when did the world become "America's Bitch?" -
Bush=miserable Failure
nova_satori replied to Black Dog's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Bush will win this election. He will be forced to pay millions of dollars to do so though. This will most likely be the most expensive campagain the US has ever seen. To buy this election, Bush will be forced to pay through the nose. Don't you love sham representative plutocracies? -
Democratic Lies 2001-2003
nova_satori replied to Derek's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Bush said, as craig quoted, that ALL it would take to find 6 months to find WMD in Iraq. Let's do the math. March, April, May, June, July, August, Sept.......Do I count 7 months? Na, let's just do some fuzzy math. Like Bush's Enron supporter! Another Bush lie! Wait, they've proven that Saddam had a extensive infrastrucure to produce enriched Uranium and produce nuclearwar heads? Thus, under this logic, the US can now attack anyone it wishes under pre-emptive warfare! Want cheap eletronics? Attack Japan. Gold and Diamonds, Congo! Anything you want, just say that are producing chemical and bio weapons in their factories! That doesn't irk us. You're completely missing the point. Clinton's lies were of little consequences, where he put his thing didn't cause huge problems, just a big scandal. Bush's lies are getting us into a $400 billion ADDITIONAL debt, creating thousands, if not millions additional terrorists, massive instability, astronomical oil prices, offending every puesdo-ally the US has, spreading US forces to the near membrane thin, and creating a atsmopshere of fear. Clinton's lies never even came close to one of those. It's the consequences, not the actual lying that irks us. There is no such thing as a honest politican. The politican that lies and gets us into a huge mess irks us. key words: HUGE MESS. That may be, but is the world better with a few thousand more die hard terrorists? Coalition of the 30 nations is coalition of the bribed and extorted. Which is worse: A contained dictator or a hundred thousands terrorists running around with NO ONE keeping track of them? Don't get me that "liberation" BS. Iranians have suffered far worse than Iraqi. Fantical mullahs have been matching peaceful student protests with violent police and paramilitary brutal beatdowns. Student leaders are dragged out of their dorms and are never see again. Anyone who crosses the mullahs is rarely seen again. The people there are willing to stand up for what they want, and they are brutally oppressed. IF we really wanted to liberate like you say, Why didn't we "free" Iran first? -
I meant the current one. They can't do major damage to PLA's bases. However, they can do enough to harrass and prolong their attacks, giving the island more time. It's highly unlikely that the Chinese have already utilized the Patriot Missile System that Israel sold them by now. Air defenses can always be subverted. Taiwanese pilots are as good as Japanese, and ROK, and the US, and their F-16s are heavily upgraded. Taiwan could probabably set up a long range jamming aganist China's SAMs. Yes it wouldn't break the back or even prolong them for a extended time, but Taiwan's military is not entirely defense. So you're saying that bioweapons will kill everyone regardless of medical expertise and massive training? So any vaccinations, any quick response medical teams, any training, is useless aganist a bio attack? So no soldier should get getting anthrax vaccinations? So people shouldn't be gettign smallpox vaccinations? Um. NO. The Kurd Cities hit by chem weapons are still heavily inhabitated. Diseases such as Sars (once thought to be a terrorist doing) was contained and eventually stopped. You don't see HK completely abandoned do you? Are you saying that there is NO way to stop a bio attack? Sun Tzu acknolwedges this somewhere in the art of war. If we DO need to kill them all, and not remove the ability to make war, why is the military developing EMP weapons? Why are Pinches developed? How about non-lethal weapons? You do not need to kill unnecessarily. Simply remove their ability to make war upon you. While some aruge that a true warrior never leaves his opponent the chance to return another day, can your opponent be a threat if he does not have the resources to return as a threat? If you cannot remove their ability to make war, then the obvious choice is to kill them. However, needless killing is something that will contribute to the end of the world. Military history shows that armies don't go around mindlessly killing everything. They take strategic points, depot, supplies, all things needed by the enemy to make war. Grind the enemy down, until they can not longer fight. Do you need to completely oblierate your enemy when you can tactically strike and remove their ability to contiune the fight? Infantry will always be imporant. Neither Naval nor Air power can take a hold territory. Naval and Air power lack the ability to arrest people. Air, for the being, lacks the power of sniping a important officer without killing everyone around him off. This will never end. Even when 'wet' navies were a thing of the past, ground troops launched from carriers/drop ships will be fundemental in a campaign. As the navy brass, in white clean uniforms sip their tea in their ships orbiting the planet, ground forces getting down and dirty will be the instrumental key in taking planets/installations/nations. Airpower might be able to force a surender (kosovo), but it can never enforce laws or carry out a occupation. So thus, you still think I think infantry are useless? Or as davin felth likes to say, "foot soldiers?"
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Democratic Lies 2001-2003
nova_satori replied to Derek's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
well it's useless aruging with someone who refuses to look at news. Who refuses to look at reports. Who refuses to look at US and UN reports. One who refuses to look at the overall time table. Just because you try harder doesn't mean you will be able to do it. Has it occured to you that after 7 months of searching, 7 months of spending billions of dollars, bringing in thousands of new inspectors, offering HUGE amounts of money for information, we have found NOTHING? Has it occured to you that there is no current infrastructure to produce WMD since 1999? Can you produce a gun with no tools and no materials? Has it occured to you that all the evidence that the US has obtained is either 1) Circumstantial 2) Very ambigious 3) Very outdated 4) Or complete lies? There is no recent solid evidence he even had the means to produce them. You do understand the underlying tensions of the Arab world? Leaking reports of supposed WMD will put every other arab country on guard, and much less likely to engage you. Also it breds a attitude that the British had prior to the second world war. People are willing to give you reasonable things because they are afraid. Saddam has given false evidence to defectors, who then tell the rest of the Arab world. Saddam did not expect the US to attack, he's been playing the stall game for a decade or two. Anything to keep him in power aganist his Muslim/Arab neighbors. Now, if the UN found that he didn't have any....well there goes his entire charade. Also, using the same mystery tactic that the USSR used, he can frighten Western powers as well. Not too shabby. However, Saddam didn't expect to go aganist evidence-is-for-sissys Bush. Because he will have to pay exorbiants amounts of capital to buy this election. We live in a society where the richest person can buy his way into governmental power. Side Note: There's a picture of a cat with two completely different color eyes in Yahoo! news today. It's not something you see everyday. -
What Has Recent Events Taught Rogue Leaders?
nova_satori replied to Whistler's topic in The Rest of the World
Iran has had reactor(s) for a while. That stupid pact with Russia started this. If they only had kept it, we wouldn't be discussing that. The pact was that Russia provides technical assistance and parts, and Iran returns ALL spent fuel and gives money to the. -
lol. I find it disturbing that the russkies are laughing at our complete stupidity.
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Democratic Lies 2001-2003
nova_satori replied to Derek's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
How many newsources is it going to take before you realize NOTHING is going to be found? How many US officials and reports does it take before you realized they lied through their teeth? How many non-US reports will it take before you understand that you took the hook, sinker and line? Rummy himself said that there are no links between Iraq and Al Qeauda. Let me quote the HEAD UN INSPECTOR!!! You're still enrolled in idiocy 101, and earning a major in propaganda believing. No, we are laughing at those who still believe propaganda after it has been disproven. -
Bush's Address To The Un General Assembly
nova_satori replied to tec21's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Deterrents don't work aganist someone with nothing to lose and everything to gain. Fought between the Soviet Union and the USSR.....they were going to have a tactical nuclear civil war? History has shown, once a great power arises, the smaller powers band together to bring the stronger one down. It will happen. Making yourself appear arrogant will only hasten your fall. The right wingers believe that tehy can do no wrong. The liberals however, do critize other leftist for bad judgments. -
Clark, Can He Win?
nova_satori replied to nova_satori's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
So you LIKE having a bad president, a economy down the tubes, a quagmire you'll never get out of, giving billions of dollars away at the same time as cutting revenue? Do you think that is a effective way of running a country? Small government is bad? When did I, black Dog and Bushmustgo ever say that? Does it make ANY sense in running up a $400 BILLION dollar debt? Does it make sense to cut taxes and give away a HUGE amount of money at the same time? Tax and spend in the logical way of running any government. -
that doesn't answer the question. That is simply your opinion on what he does. Many of the palestinanes see this as a way to fight their oppresor. Raising American kids who think pop culture is the best thing since slice bread is pointless. To whom? Giving their lives in a war to free thesmelves from Israel's oppression is murder or martyrism? You sure you want to go there? That's a opinion. Not a fact. Killing and maiming thousands of innocent palestinaisn via Israeli airstrikes is wrong. Even the Israel pilots feel so. Here's the article
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What Has Recent Events Taught Rogue Leaders?
nova_satori replied to Whistler's topic in The Rest of the World
North Korea restarted its nuclear program after Bush added it to his "axis of evil" speech. If I was added to the list, I would throw ALL of my resources into building a nuclear weapon. That is the only thing America respects. Even Israel cannot hide its program. What does THAT say? America has defined Justice as "Might makes right." Socractes, plato and Glaucon are rolling over in their graves. China not supporting Bush was one of the stupidest things the world has seen in the past year. China will have to do the same thing if it wishes to take Taiwan via force. If the two largest economic giants stood behind this action, the rest of the world would likely have to stand by them. -
the IMF needs to die, in a slow horrible way. Not only have the senetenced thousands of Africans to die, but they also force 3rd world countries to jack prices up, allow foreign companies to make monopolys, and in general screw the country.
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Let's see who posted the quote on whether god exists or not? ME!!!! let's see who stated that if it has not been not proven to exist it must exist! NOT ME! are there any credible links that you have posted? NO! Has there been any largly published to the world long term report? NO! Has there been any huge scientific conference proving either side? NO!!! AS I will reinterate: Without a long term, well funded, credible soruce, you will not be able to prove EITHER side. Welcome to the world of right-wing debate, where evidence is for sissys. Look at Bush! We don't nee evidence! Clear eye realist conservatives = We don't need proof! But let's simply ignore that like you ignore the rest of the releveant matters eh Craig? I bet Craig won't be able to do this. He'll just throw more meanigless rheotric.
