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NO, they want a quick return of control to Iraqis. NOT IMMEDIATE. BIG DIFFERENCE. It appalls me how Craig twists everything, including the english lanaguge to suit his biased cases. Neither did the US. Your point?

Superior in what sense? We've already established that the legionnare is a superior overall weapon. They both had different functions, OBVIOUSLY. War Elephants War elephants somewhat effective aganist Roman armies. HMMMM Actually a few of Hannibal's elephants did fight in a battle or two. When faced aganist infantry and cavalary not specificially trained and armed aganist them, it often became a rout.

KK, I see your point, and under other conditions, I would agree with you, but with the largest debt in the nation, large unemployment, many minority issues, and major economic downturn, I cannot agree. There is simply too much to risk on 4 years with a green politican. Perhaps if the risks were smaller, and the time more forgiving, but I simply see that the risks of another 4 years (or is it 2?) with a green is asking for disaster. I really can't believe the brought up that crap Nazi thing. Seriously people, with someone who has tried to stamp out intolerance, a NAZI? For crying out loud, please get something better. No one in the race has Davis's mug slinging abilities. leftwinger: Please, the right is making itself look like a fool by supporting Craig Reed. Please do not make yourself a left-wing Craig Reed. I'm begging here.

Why should I? It never worked before. You simply disgard the evidence or say that the source, even if the rest of the logical world respects it, is false. Or you simply just ignore it and say I never post any evidence. As your posts are always to hateful, intolerant, pro-oblivion, and anti-peace. I have no problems seeing you banned. Because the beliefs of 1/10,200 of the overall muslim population applies to the rest of the 10,199/10,200 people ? Have you ever spoken with anyone from that area? My post, was to give you two options: Answer that it, the pure religion was failing and look like a complete idiot, or answer that it isn't failing and contridict yourself.

Um, US troops prefered the AK for numerous reasons even when they had use of the M16. They prefered its stopping power, reliability (it's not a uzi, but it's got better reliability then the 16), ability to fire many type of ammo, and ease of obtaining. But let's just forget that as well? The War elephant and Legionnaire were obviously use for different things. However, when a war elephant stomps/tramples legionnares, it obviously has a advantage. Yes, a War elephant cannot patrol or search house to house, but a legionnare cannot stomp or trample infantry by the dozens. Yes it was a superior weapon overall, but when faced aganist a unit of war elephants, they are inferior. FastNed: Tell Craig to stop his lying, fabrications, sweeping generalized insults and otherwise actions that Greg has already warned him about. Then come talk to me.

LOL. Your attempts to make yourself look like the victim are horrible. If you bothered to put the amount of effort that normally goes into your intolerant posts, perhaps you could have some resembalance of a victim, until then, stop trying. If your opinion, anyone who does not follow your beliefs is morally wrong and automatically immoral. The purpose of the post was to show your idiocy is comparing slander to political history that one lacks. Obviously, you cannot see that. I'm disagreeing with you that he would be a good candidiate due to his severe lack of any and all political experience. You are the king of useless and hateful slander.

Practice what you preace. Then talk to me. It's far too interesting how you think clear observations ANYONE can make when examing Arnold's political history is slander. You are the one who throws hundreds of mindless anti-liberal, anti-progress, pro-genocide, pro-oblivion, anti-tolerance, anti-peace, pro-fear, pro-hate, pro-intolerance, anti-freedom, anti-logic, PURE LIES, and fabrications around. Don't even try to take the higher ground from that deep swamp of immurity and hate that you are so deeply sunken into. Every one here can read the hundreds of posts that you preach hate and intolerance. Just shutup. Remember, you got warned with the threat of a ban. Not me.

my whole point is that to think that the US is completely without any blame is ludicrious.

and latin is dead

When a weapon can utterly stomp an other into oblivion it is inferior? However, we need to define better in what sense. Better in attrition wars? better in training? Better in overall combat? better at sea battle? Yes, a legionare is better at sea, training and attrition, but in a certain battle(s), when faced aganist something that can better adapt or has a signifigent advantage, it will take a inferior stance. My question is (which you people will probably answer strangely) does one thing apply to everything else that is shares something with?

Because you are blind to your own ignorance and your own hate. Everyone here has seen hundreds of your vile, spiteful, hateful, intolerant posts clammoring for severe change that will hamper and harm the world. Do not even try to hide that. STOP LYING. Fricking stop. I was the one, in a thread, KK asked me to write, who argued that without a understanding of the past, the fundemental causes and beliefs, this war will never end. Unless you'd like to change the past and edit the archives, STFU. Freedom in your mind is genocide of all people who dissent from your views. Pre-emptiveness with no evidence, pre-emptiveness to move the mind of the public from their wallets to a war, pre-emptivenss to get re-elected, that I do not condone. Apparently you do.

There are always people like in both sides. In America there are people who condone genocide of all Muslims (a few of the right-wingers were represente that view), and some that would like to see many of them die a horrible death. Likewise, that attidue exists in the middle east. Of course, but do you want to live in fear your WHOLE LIFE? Changing their attitudes will ultimately change the problem, and in a good dirction, get rid of the fear. Then we will be safeguarding forever. For every defense, there is a way to circumvent it. For every barrier, there is an achilles heel. I do not want to live in fear forever. I'm sure you do not want to do the same. Craig believes that 9/11 is completely not America's fault. He believes that America has done no wrong to anyone. Thus, he thinks we should get rid of all muslims states and all muslim people. Right....because have genocide on our records is always a good thing. 9/11 is heavily America's fault for many reasons. The amount of damage and hate we have caused over there, the inability to rectifiy that hate before it happened, the ignorance to their cultural beliefs. If we fricking paid ANY attention, we wouldn't have this problem.

What the hell are you talking about? I'm beginging to think that you are dillusional. Um...you do understand WHY? No, it disagreed with you, and most of the quotes are from your post on what you typed, not what you quoted. Cherry picking and selective reading along with fabrication, are those your majors you recieved in college? You are dilluisional. And have no ability to pick up on sarcasm. However, you did prove something, that when you cannot admit that you are wrong, you simply regressive to 5th grade insults and ignorance.

You're missing the point. He earlier said that Rome, like the US had all the best weapons. During several battles in Africa, Roman legions were trampled and annihilated by War elephants. They did not have the best weapons. After they produced a navy centered around boarding ships, their fleet became the strongest in the Meditteranean, however, before that, their navy was seriously lacking in comparsion to the Carthagians. By all means, read the question and answer before you comment on either. Craig Read, like his usual self, misses the point as well. No one ever said that. I simply said legionniaire were destroyed by war elephants on several occasions. going to selectively read and fabricate what I said like you always do craig? Rome was going to fall, just like the US and every other nation in this world.

Yay, craig shows his ignorace again! NO, Liberals view US foriegn policy and acts of aggression as the enemy, not the country. It's always amuzing how you leave out the horrible things America has done. Because EVERY LIBERAL IS THE SAME! Every conservative is the same! Thus everyone thinks in one of two IDENTICAL thought patterns. Stop with the sweeping generalizations that don't apply to anyone. That's bull. The US consitution and its "all men were created equal" was written by SLAVE HOLDERS. WHAT MORALITY? The US seeks to exploit other countries for its self interest, just as other countries do to everyone else. Just as the US exploits markets around the world, such as china, mexico does the same to the US. We HAVE NO morality with other countries. How about Belgium Congo? King LEOPOLD's skeleton the size of a brontosaurus that we helped create and hide? That was moral and ethical too right? Lovely contridiction you just made there. You HATE the Un, think it should be either abolished or massively reformed, yet praise the US for giving to it. You call me a hypocrite when you are the supreme example of it. Yes, there wrong because Craig doesn't like anything that doesn't share his views! You have posted far more hateful and spiteful posts then most of Europe combined. You miss the fundemental basis of 9/11 yourself. You shouldn't be talking.

Craig Read: You've got to stop lying. Greg already warned you that contiuned actions like your previous ones will get you banned. I can contridict my support of isolationism that I NEVER SUPPORTED. I can contridict something I NEVER SAID. Stop lying. Ask a ROK officers. He'll tell you they can. However, he won't say they won't escape unscathed. The US forces in the area are negliable. A removal of 37,000 troops will see no change in the entire defensive structure of the ROK. The US has very, very, very little military assets in SK. Perhaps, but history has seen warmongeres who fail are scorned with more fury then a angry woman. Which would you rather be, a peace maker or a war monger? Such as his non-existance political expierence?

Ethics and real morals have left the stag of the world long ago.

And you ignore them as much as possible. It's amazing how many soruces you will declare useless and false when you refuse to admit you are wrong. Thanks to clinton. Wait that's something you like, but it';s by clinton, is your head exploding right now? Because EVERYONE thinks the same way Craig thinks! because all the instructors at West point are stupid! West point is stupid! We don't need it! Let's ignore that his hands were tied and he had no choice. Thus the next time someone does something and they had no choice, you will blame them anyway? Everytime you say something like this, the facts that you cherry pick, ignore the other evidence, and down right start name calling get embedded in everyone's mind here deeper. Every time.

Such as the internal conflicts that run strange parelelles today? Rome's Legionnares were destroyed by war elephants. Their navy was weak during several wars. You mean the end of the golden age. That ended around 2000. 8 years of the best economic prosperity the world has ever seen, great cultural achievements, and no longer term wars. That's all going down the tubes at the moment Where do you live and where did you go to school? Deep racist, confederate South? Right because it wasn't a black person who got the UC system to disband their use of AA! Did you go to school in a extremist religion, pro-rewriting history with much bias aganist non-whites?

Sorry, It you quoted Ned. my bad I was like, "WTF, i never talk about child abuse anywhere." I'll try not to do it again

Likewise as your idea that people are for pre-emptive war on false evidence. Then you're one of the few people who believe with terrible education, a joke for popular culture, dumbed down newspapers, and little knowledge of the world gives someone a better realistic assessment of what must be done then one who has studied under the best professors in the world, who has more resources avaliable then the average US agency, who are some of the brightest people in the world, who have been hand picked to lead the world. I don't understand how you can trash some of the best higher learning instutions on the world. According to your belief, the Ivys, Oxford, Amherst, and a whole slew of the most sought after schools are simply piles of garbage. If that doesn't show your complete hypocricasy nothing does. Perfect uneducated, arrogant western opinion with NO influence or touch with ANY middle easterner. Pathetic.

That's ok. You don't need to apologize. Just practice what you preach. I find it amusing that the Chinese are laughing at the US about not practicing what they peach. Communists are laughing at us for not donig what we preach!

Locke, you forgot hypocrite too I've tried. Believe me, i've tried. He simply responds that the quoted news source should be/is shutdown/stupid/wrong/incompetent/false/moronic/propaganda/drivel....anything but credible and possibly correct, all at the same time saying his links (the few that he does post, opposed to my 50+) are always correct and can never be wrong. I think Craig has made himself out to be intolerant, hateful, pro-oblivion, anti-dissents, anti-progress person who has never spoken to anyone outside of the Western World.

That may take a few hundred years. Here's a fun new poll: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor.../bush_poll_dc_6

ME? You should have been here for the past two weeks to see Craig lie his butt off, make complete fabrications then say we said them, throw sweeping generalizations that really didn't apply to anyone. It got so bad that the Admin had to give Craig a choice: Stop his current childish antics or get banned. Greg (the admin) deleted my post detailing my greviances aganist Craig. He lies ALOT. He'll say you did said something that doesn't even follow your previous patterns and is nowhere in any of the threads. Stop promoting the road to oblivion. Every time I post an link or article, you say I never provide any proof. Every refutation that is proven, you simply ignore. it also seems to think that the majority of the rest of the world thinks the same way you do, and that everyone else who dissents is obviously wrong. See, my point has been proven. Comming from you, who selectivly reads posts, refuses to acknolwdge any links or articles or any non-extremist right-wing supporting evidence, who cherry picks his own articles, thinks that all respectable news sources he disagrees with are scum, avoids refuting or even touching the subject, refuses to say when he is wrong when all the evidence points to it, and throws mindless, childish insults at people when he knows is wrong and cannot admit it. Hypocritie. Another of my points has been proven. So who has been calling Clark and all democrats horrible names? Hypocrite. Such as cutting taxes and spending $87 BILLION? Hypocite. I will, as long as you keep your dictionary of slanderous, mindless, pathetic, sweeping insults that don't apply to anyone and only prove your inability to see the other side handy.