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I was thinking more of Christian Amanpour's "Warriors of God" documentary on CNN in which she shows how the American Jewish demographic exerts its considerable influence in support of Israel. But thanks for tuning in.

JBG, you are a mensch.

Yes! An international court! Absolutely. The body of law that it can rule on is thin, but build it and they will come! Very good point.

Come on. She puts up a topic for discussion. So what?

Yes! The Chinese are another culprit in this mess. The Singaporeans are selling them military technology and the Chinese are using them for cheap labour. Hard to believe that anybody can work cheaper than the Chinese, but there you have it.

OMG! It sounds like the Jews! Holy crap!

Thanks for the confirmation

Heh heh. Exactly. I believe that Steve Harper is an apostate, and I would never deign to talk to him, but if he were to denounce George Bush....

That was fast. You went straight from Federal politics to this thread. Am I really the apple of your eye, M.Dancer?

This has to be abit of a non-sequitor, but my favourite campaign poster has to be the one for the Green Party up in the Bruce Peninsula. The candidate's name is Jolley, and the signs say... Vote Jolley Green Heh heh. I'll bet he gets a lot of votes just because it's so easy to remember. OK, it's provincial, but I just had to put it up.

LOL. I love it. Seems, though that we've gone military. Instead of stars, we've got bars. What do you think that means ?

Yeah, partition would produce (as usual) a lot of suffering and bloodshed. I don't think the US government is going to be able to find a way out of this mess without a lot of suffering and bloodshed. Maybe it's time for the US government to start looking around for somebody else who might be able to fix this thing. It is certain that neither the President, the Congress, the US military, nor the Senate is going to be able to do it. They've pretty much shown they just don't belong anywhere in the general neighbourhood.

Good point!

It's not his riding. It's Wynne's riding. Tory's riding is out in Orangeville.

Thanks. I have to admit I fell asleep a few times reading both of them.

Yeah, that is a great idea. Too bad it didn't start with the Shah of Iran, Pinochet, Batista, Chiang Kai Shek, Marcos.... the list just goes on and on. Yeah, these people were propped up with western gold. But that was so they could keep feeding the great western maw. No, the world would not be a worse place than it is now. It would just be a different place than it is now.

Oh but you are! That is what democracy is all about. That is what free speech is all about. You are directly responsible and that is why you come here!

I'd like to address this post, and in fact the general attitude that ScottSA, M.Dancer, and others have put forth here. Generally, what we are seeing here is the classic imperialist style of thinking. "We bring good things to life and therefor, you should just put up with our shit." The British were good at this. It worked, to a certain extent in India. An imperlialist would argue that India got a good railroad system and civil service in exchange for all that it gave up. Of course the civil service and railroads were only put in so that the British could get cheap Indian goods to British factories, but nevermind. Gandhi understood this and he was able to explain it to the general populace of India. The man really was remarkable. A genius, really, for what he was able to do. There is a spinning wheel on the flag of India, but in a sense it is really a picture of the man. The British imperialists will argue that they brought civilisation to India, although truth be told what they brought was British civilisation to India - complete with servants. Indians had their own version of civilisation before the British arrived. It was a feudal system - not a lot different than the British system as it existed perhaps around the 1500s - to be sure with no king, but with a lot of maharajahs and fiefdoms - lords and shires, if you will. Given time, and left to its own resources, it would have evolved differently. Instead it was turned into a British colony. Don't like the example of India? How about China? Here's another British conquest. The Chinese did not fare as well as the Indians because British free enterprise turned China into a customer of the British opium trade. Not something you hear about a lot these days. Sort of disappeared down the memory hole. When the Chinese tried to put a stop to the opium trade, the British waged war on them, burned the Imperial Library at Beijing (complete with manuscripts going back many, many centuries) and forced China into the Hong Kong lease. A humiliation the Chinese never forgot. I find the arguments put forward by M.Dancer, ScottSa, and their allies to be remarkably like those Ayn Rand espoused in her many interminably boring novels. Rand's novels were about powerful talented people who were hobbled by things like unions, government, and notions of fair play. Her most popular novel was Atlas Shrugged - a novel about an architect who built magnificent buildings but just couldn't stand it that there was so much socialism in the world and so went away to sulk. The central character had red hair and got laid by a sympathetic female character. There's not a lot more that you can say about him because Rand spent no time in character development - her characters were just notice boards upon which she would pin her multi-page rants about superior beings. Sort of reminds you of Aryanism in a way. In any case, superior technolgy does not give anybody the right to go in and seize property, kill people, and make another country your client state. You can justify it if you will, but they won't like it and sooner or later, the shit is gonna hit the fan

Reported again for name-calling.

Thank you!

The National Post. I should have known. A newspaper that has proven itself incapable of supporting itself from its own revenues. A loser enterprise. I'm not looking to tranform them into anything. I am looking to show that their world view is wrong. I really don't care what they end up as at the end of it. They can all turn into flying monkies for all I care. Oh wait...

Good news. We'll see what it amounts to. I too would like to see the standard applied equally across the board, and in fact that is the point of my arguments. I do not agree with George Yeo (The Singapore guy) though. He is just throwing the lambs to the wolves. Sure it's up to the people to depose the dictators, but here is what might happen: peaceful demonstrators march in Burma. The army cracks down, busts a few heads, arrests some. Demonstrators march some more. The army kills a bunch , throws leaders in jail, tortures them. The protesters stage another march. Huge numbers of protesters killed. Finally the outside world wags its finger. The junta goes into stealth mode. No more public slaughter. Now we have quiet torture and repression (as before). All the leaders are either dead or in jail. The whole thing slips off the front page. The world moves on to the next headline.

Good news. We'll see what it amounts to. I too would like to see the standard applied equally across the board, and in fact that is the point of my arguments. I do not agree with George Yeo (The Singapore guy) though. He is just throwing the lambs to the wolves. Sure it's up to the people to depose the dictators, but here is what might happen: peaceful demonstrators march in Burma. The army cracks down, busts a few heads, arrests some. Demonstrators march some more. The army kills a bunch , throws leaders in jail, tortures them. The protesters stage another march. Huge numbers of protesters killed. Finally the outside world wags its finger. The junta goes into stealth mode. No more public slaughter. Now we have quiet torture and repression (as before). All the leaders are either dead or in jail. The whole thing slips off the front page. The world moves on to the next headline.

I am watching Flaherty on the Business News Network right now and he has just taken credit on behalf of the Harper Feds for the Toronto subway extension This thing was in operation before Harper took office.

How many were dying their hair blonde? What part of town were you spending your time in? I've known plenty of Asians, buster. None of them spent any time trying to lighten their skin.