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It's amazing your Party masters allow you to post this sort of thing ... it does nothing for Tory credibility when its ardent supporters appear (as you do) to think corrupt violations of the Criminal Code are inconsequential. Good for him!

They have been the official opposition for 14 months. They *found* the documents in the offices of the Official Leader of the Opposition. They have had access to those offices for 14 months. Unless somebody is alleging the Conservatives snuck back into the offices of the OLO and planted the documents. Why do you say such simple-minded things? It's not in the least surprising that someone wouldn't immediately notice a particular document in a large office building.

The most recent war in Iraq was started by the United States. Iraq, using U.S. supplied weaponry. It's not. Unlike many countries in the middle east and Africa, Iran's territorial footprint is not a straight-up creation of colonial powers.

It seems like a little show of force is what has led to the problem.

Well look, that's not even remotely correct. It's almost completely inaccurate. The set of facts barely intersects with your above statement. Riiiigghhht, my bro went to Depot where that was drilled into his head, but according to you that's not good enough. Pick up any Police Officer Exam prep. guide and that philosophy is present throughout, time to get your head out of the sand. You're probably badly mistaken about what police training says, but even if it does say that, it's wrong. There is no circumstance that the law recognizes that gives police officers authority to be a law unto themselves.

REPORTED Oh, this bodes well. Meanwhile, to comment without yet having seen the video, but nevertheless being informed on the general subject, I would point out that economics, particularly theory of the economics of information has built quite a large body of literature analyzing this issue. Basically, it is fairly well settled that free markets are extremely efficient at allocating resources, but that 1. they are not perfectly self correcting and are subject to 'market failures', and 2. they can't be relied on to address social/justice issues. Resort to regulation is typically justified on one or the other of these grounds. The inevitable question is whether the regulation matches to problem correctly, without making more problems itself.

With this post, you have managed to leave me with a negative impression of you personally. Really? I didn't respond the first time you said how pointless the discussion was, but since you were at pains to raise it again, I was assuming you were looking for SOME kind of response. Next time, just tell me whatever magic words it is you want me to recite. Seriously though, dude, you gotta learn to roll with the reparte.

BBCIs this true? Didn't an economist look into this a couple of years ago?

Well look, that's not even remotely correct. It's almost completely inaccurate. The set of facts barely intersects with your above statement.

Good gosh. History cannot 'prove a negative'. That's not a problem in this case. Were you hoping I would take you to Paris?

What on earth is numberless? Wrongful convictions in Canada.

Criminal Code:

Don't know that the RCMP are involved yet but they said on the radio that they has asked to see the documents. Bah. The RCMP already looked into the situation and rubberstamped it. Now that their reputation is on the line, they'll have to rubberstamp it again or admit they were wrong -- which they haven't done in living memory. (Despite how many wrongful convictions, dead suspects, and even some Mounties shot?)

So what are you saying then? DON'T put proper protocols in place?? DON'T at least do what the Dutch are doing already??? DON'T speak the truth in the House???? What are you saying????? I don't hear anyone saying heads should roll over the lost detainees -- just get the proper methods in place. Don't bitch that the opposition raised the point, just do the job. Don't have ministers spew statements of convenience in Parliament regardless of the facts. Don't accuse the opposition of disloyalty and worse. Just do the job, Steve.

Are you still here? No, I'm back. Went, ate some delicious Roganjosh, now I'm enjoying a nice single malt.

We're at war. It's part of the risk. Speaking as a citizen and a liberal (small 'l'), I feel it is the duty of the government to protect it's soldiers from unnecessary dangers. But I suppose conservatives are more likely to take the view of WWI generals or Rumsfeldian deadly-debacle-planners.

That language is uncalled for, but is Harper doing any worse than the many spurious malicious smear jobs against Harper on here - I don't think so. How about YOU watch YOUR language and I'LL watch mine? And since you can't seem to discern any difference between the expatiations of posters on a web board and the statements of the Prime Minister in the House of Commons, I think that's about all anyone can ask of you.

Let's try to remember the facts, shall we? Serious money had started to flow into the forces already under Chretien, and accelerated under Martin. Steve has continued this. Bullshit. ... It's not bullshit, its a historical fact.

ROFL! If Newman could get a job doing the Weather on a local American television station he'd be down south so fast his collection of phony hair pieces would leave a hundred mile trail to the border. Does it ever bother you that nothing you say has the remotest shred of truth or value?

What possible reason would you think that they don't already??? Because they never have before. Lie.

I care about Canada's international reputation as a reasonable, human rights respecting country. I also care about the institution of Parliament and object when ministers of the crown mislead it. I know that Conservatives don't give a shit about our institutions, but some of the rest of us do. Are you suggesting Canada should take control of Afghan prisoners in Afghanistan? I would suggest that ministers who don't know something shouldn't make up a fake answer. I would suggest that if Canada can't run a war properly, it should get out of there.

False? I don't think so. I think Harper was accurate. Total crap. Give me one shred of geniune reason to believe that the Liberals would care more about Talibans than Canadians. You can't. It's scurrilous. It's an attack that's beneath even a tory. Prove it. They ask questions about whatever the issues are. It's a lie. 'Cause he lied to Parliament!

You think Steve has that kind of disdain for his caucus!?

Yes, well, of course he is. He's a conservative, and you're a rabid leftist who despises conservatives. Do you honestly think that it's AOK for one parliamentarian to make absolutely fabricated smears of other parliamentarians? Do you really think that partisanship is the only reason someone might object to vicious slurs coming from our leader of government? What kind of person would you have to be to honestly believe that? I think I know the reason, but if I shared it with you I'd violate the rules of the forum.

Prove it.