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Michael Hardner

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  1. 5 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

    1. They are less accountable now that a big chunk of their income comes from the government.

    2. Does anyone really think the Conservatives will continue that? Or that they'll fight the social media giants to ensure they divert some of their advertising profits to the MSM?

    3. It's not in their interests to have the Tories win. That's particularly so for the CBC.

    1. I don't see it. Also again we're talking about the written press, which is almost all conservative and or right wing.. 

    2. Leaving politics out of it, we are in unfortunate position where nobody wants to pay for news anymore and yet it's an essential service. The Liberals are coming up with a not very imaginative solution.  The Conservative leader may be considering just having his own party provide news content. In which case the Liberals and NDP would do the same, and we would be back to late 19th century American media model. 

    3. Not sure who they is in this context. The big social media Giants are so huge that they barely care about Canada. CBC, television and radio are different animals, Canadian Network and niche television are different too.  It's complex a landscape... All we will know is that any one of them will except a government payoff, especially if the National Post does.

     

  2. 44 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

    Democrats used to be anti-Marxist.  Harry Truman?  What you seem to be missing is the fact that Marxists are now playing major decision making roles and the ideological capture of institutions is crystal clear.   

    Yeah, Truman was President before Nixon was VP.  Marxism is dead and I'm not in favour of reviving it as a contemporary bogeyman...

    Wokism, culture war, etc. etc. we've already talked that to death.  Nothing more to add.  Hopefully I explained why Trump can be seen as classically right-wing.  Have a great day yourself...

  3. 1 hour ago, herbie said:

    Losing battle Mikey.
    These people have spent the last 2 decades convincing themselves the media is liberal biased. Even managed to convince many others. When you don't know or don't believe how they've earned their money it makes it easy. When the idea evolved into believing the 'cure' is purposely injecting bias, they're beyond all hope.

    Look at what the MSM actually has become - the Internet. It's just so left wing, isn't it? [/s]

    Well it IS liberal biased to the same degree that University graduates vote leftish from what I have seen.

    Ideology will come through in the reporting... and that is indeed small l liberal at least.

  4. 9 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

    Has anyone looked at CTV power and politics with Vassy i forget her last name, she must have a hate on for all politicians because she has no qualms about ripping all of them apart, asking very pointed question, watch her last interview with Freeland...so i'm not so sure CTV has a bias, but its not apparent with Vassy anyways...  

    It depends, of course, on who writes the show and the target audience etc.  The people who produce these things have specific goals, usually to get viewers.  CBC even had a right-wing show or editorial here and there.  But Conservatives generally avoid CBC like a bad taint so they wouldn't listen anyway.

    If you want to have a laugh, try to track down the story of the first time right-wing ( 😮 ) CTV got the rights to the Grey Cup from the CBC ...

  5. 6 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

    Prove that Trump is very right wing.  Most of his policies have been centrist.

    The rockbed of his policies are pro-nationalist, anti-immigrant, pro-business... he regularly rails against Marxism, which I don't think any Republican candidate before him did since... maybe Nixon but before he was VP.  He had Nick Fuentes over to dinner, also... that seems a little off-brand for centrist conservatives.

    This idea isn't at all controversial but it is thread drift.  Hopefully I answered your question as to why I think he's very right wing.  Your opinions may vary.

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  6. 3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

    1. CNN? It is not Canadian

    2. "The canada media fund (cmf) receives financial contributions from the government of canada and canada's cable, satellite and iptv distributors."

    "The Government of Canada remains committed to ensuring that all Canadians can access sustainable and robust independent news. The Honourable Pascale St-Onge, Minister of Canadian Heritage, announced $58.8 million in funding to extend the Local Journalism Initiative for the next three years (2024-27"

     

    1. Sorry - autocorrect.  I meant CTV.   
    2. TV Networks aren't mentioned here, nor are the channels I mentioned - podcasts, etc.

    Not to say they won't be begging for money soon.  They will.  Bell got money to maintain jobs then laid off thousands.   I am not a fan of direct government funding but the dead-dumb argument that governments fund media to get favourable stories doesn't make sense.

    4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

    I won't get into your endless word games.  I am not into that.

    Not a word game.  You haven't been convinced of anything on these pages as far as I have ever seen.

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  7. 5 minutes ago, ironstone said:

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/federal-election-2019/canada-s-600-million-media-bailout-a-guide-to-federal-tax-breaks-for-the-news-industry-1.4586082

    The concern for bias is justified since the Liberals put Unifor on the Journalism and Written Media Independent Panel of Experts.

    Unifor has a giant hate-on for the Conservatives.

     

    Yes but it's a job program.  ALL governments in Canada are terrified as to how to keep employment up as automation and offshoring takes wide swaths of jobs away.

    Pipelines, EV Plants, arms manufacturers... they are all government darlings.

    I would really love more posters who don't see every single thing as a left-right war... Our challenges go beyond that in so many ways...

  8. 3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

    This is why the CBC should be defunded and there should be no more subsidies or grants to the media by the government.

    Well... but... you accept the premise without evidence, based on your gut feel.  99% of my online life on another forum is convincing liberals and such not to do such a thing.

    They know Trump is a bad man, so why offer him any justice.
    They know vaccines should be mandatory so why not fire people who don't take them.

    You are either for objectivity and political process or against it.  You seem to be against it.

    4 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

    1.  Good because Canada is permanently radical left-wing loony.

    2.  I wasn’t a Trump fan.  You know this.  Nevertheless Trump is the lesser of evils in the next US election.  

    1. Ok - so you SUPPORT government funding then for the MSM.  Got it.
    2. Regardless, you thing the Globe is left-wing then you are staring out the Overton window at a landscape of your choosing.

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    34 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

    1. Copy and paste where I said it's a problem if people find things are insulting. 
    2. Are you entitled to living life without insult or offense? 
    3. This is akin to, "If in have to explain it you can't understand it".
    4. The translation is, "I have no explanation".
    5. So you think if I insult someone they would be justified in punching me in the nose and should be free from prosecution for assault  for punching me in the nose because I insulted them. 

    1. "Then it's a you problem isn't it"
    2. It's a boring strawman... the original question was asked by you and answered by me.  Are you just doing this because you don't want to go to bed and want to stay up ? 
    3. Or maybe.... you already know the answer.
    4. I don't.  You have to learn how to be a person all by yourself.
    5. No.

    Ok, that's enough questions... go to bed....

    *Switches off light... Peppa Pig nightlight comes on*

  10. 9 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

    1. In Canada the only mainstream centrist and quite honest mainstream rag is National Post.  

    2. The Globe hasn’t been conservative for some time, even if the dated zombie reputation says otherwise.  

    1. And yet it's government funded.  And owned by Americans, majority ownership.
    2. Ah yes, the changing landscape.... if something doesn't cheerlead Trump it's Marxist I hear...

  11. 4 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

    No. They are indebted to the government. Soon, it will be the CPC.

    I heard Jesse Hirsch - ex CBC - on a podcast talking about the culture and he said it's heavily biased towards "Government" itself.  ie. standards, bureaucracy, top-down decision making, ignoring the people etc.

    That, to me, is a synopsis of Canadian business culture to a T.

  12. 18 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

    1. Thing is all Canadian media is indebted to a point to the Liberals. They all got cash form them, twice.

    2. Re-Politics is the most abusive conservative forum I have ever read. 

    1. I asked for a cite, I think.  When did CNN, Global, magazines, podcasts, private radio stations... get cash ?
    2. You need to try the IGNORE feature.  I only see posts from thoughtful folks like you.

  13. 57 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

    1. It's not complicated at all. If you are insulted by the phrase, call a spade a spade, thats really nothing more than a you problem isn't it?  

    2. Tell me why I should care if you're insulted?

    3. Would you be justified in punching me in the nose if I used a word that insulted you?

    4. Should you not be charged with assault if you did punch me in the nose because I used a word that insulted you? 

    1. Why is it a problem ?  Is it a problem to find things insulting ?  I don't think it is.  Is it a problem to miscommunicate ?  Maybe ?  So who is charged with fixing that ?  Maybe both sides.

    2. 3. 4. I don't have time to teach you how to be a human being, sorry.

  14. 4 minutes ago, ironstone said:

    It's not that easy to find. https://tnc.news/2021/08/11/liberals-hide-names-of-media-companies-given-61-million-in-subsidies/

    https://www.pressreader.com/canada/national-post-latest-edition/20230527/281745568761869

    There are some strings attached however. They do want the recipients to adopt DEI.

    If there is a choice between layoffs, or taking the handout, I can't blame them for taking the money. But who are they going to shill for? Trudeau who is now paying them, or PP who wants to stop it?

    That's for traditional press, not electronic press. Canadian newspapers are by and large conservative, led by the National Post and Globe and Mail. 

     

    So are you asserting that the National Post Kisses Trudeau's ass? CTV was mentioned in the OP.  That was founded by two conservative families working together. The Globe and Mail founded by the Thompsons... NP Conrad black...

     

     

    "Additionally, the legacy media company FP Newspapers Inc. received $6.2 million in taxpayer funds from the Liberal government"

     

     

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  15. I would say it's probably a given that they support Trudeau but "obvious" "cheerleading" .. I don't see it.  It's also pretty difficult to provide objective evidence of subjectivity right ?

    The MSM is more accountable than actual "shill" media, ie. paid-for advocacy outlets like Rebel Media and Press Progress.

    The Star has been strongly Pro Liberal through the years.  But if you can find The Rebel or Press Progress making concessions like "there is no doubt people are tired of the PM" then post that too.

    The best place to get news is RePolitics.
     

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  16. 22 hours ago, Yakuda said:

    I'm not feigning innocence I'm saying I don't control how you feel about my words. If I could control it I would make you happy to hear whatever I said. I cant do that so to say I insult you is a ridiculous. Now should I say it if I know you don't like it? That's a different matter altogether. This is the problem your hurt feelings somehow outweigh the right of people to say things you don't like. BTW people can be "insulted" by just about anything so I'm not very impressed when people say they're insulted. 

    I don't understand what we are talking about here.  Nobody is talking about rights.   This seems like an attempt to make this question more complicated than it is:

    "1. Why not use the phrase "call a spade a spade" "

    A: You don't use it if you don't want to potentially insult someone.  

    If you want to offend, go ahead.

     

  17. 5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

    And in Das Kapital.. he explains why this is going to happen. He viewed his work as scientific and not political. The reason that the working class or proletariat would rise up is that their contributory portion to the output. labor, would continually increase in value in comparison to that of land or capital (simple machines). He completely missed the boat in that technology would not stay constant and therefore invalidate his labor theory of value. 

    Well... I don't feel qualified to discuss that but it seems to me that costs of labour do increase.

     

    But anyway... I'm more talking about his urging the workers to rise up... You have nothing to lose but your chains... Than dialectical materialism etc

  18. 36 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

    What's do you mean by "accountable"? Is insulting someone a crime? Harassment isn't good. "Hate speech" is just a fancier way of saying it's "insulting". Hate speech is BS 

    Words used to mean things now they are weapons. 

    I had a post disappear. 

    I just mean that you can't feign innocence if you use words that normally will be taken as insults. So you can own that and not say.... Why should I not use this term? The reason you would use it would be to insult. If you want to do that then that's your option. 

     

    The rules of social discourse haven't changed since the first insult shrieked by some chimp 

     

  19. Just now, impartialobserver said:

    The first clue that someone has not actually read Das Kapital (the magnum opus for socialism/communism) is that they focus on the authoritarian ways that governments have done in the name of soclalism. If you read Marx (which the OP has not).. you would know that Marx did not support this but thought that it would inevitably lead this. His writings are more prediction than telling society what to do. Where he was wrong was that he completely missed the technology bandwagon.

    Okay. Can you explain the Communist manifesto then? Because it reads as a directive, the working classes to rise up right?

  20. 5 hours ago, paradox34 said:

    Thank you. You've just reiterated my point. Schools are pushing a government narrative promoted by special interest groups. I'm not paying to have my kids indoctrinated. I'm paying schools to teach my kids critical thinking and analysis skills, how to think for themselves and be self sufficient. The entire education system seems to be geared towards producing obedient tax cows. You want a holocaust remembrance day? Then lets also hear about the millions Stalin and Mau starved and butchered. How the Khmer Rouge butchered millions. You want to educate students about mans atrocities then do it properly not just promote the social political agenda of one special interest group. 

    Hey, I get it... you think that the Holocaust is overblown.  Well, go to the patent council meeting and make your case.  Morality is founded in politics, so there are likely more parents out there that want to ban remembrance day than want to deny the holocaust.  Not saying that you're not "just asking questions"...

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