Jerry J. Fortin

Talking points for Alberta Separatism I like the way this was said; 1) Here is the source of that !

Yep!

The banks won't allow us to go bankrupt! They wouldn't get their money from the feds then. What would the government do with all the left over over taxed dollars we pay then, if we don't give them to the banks for bogus loans.?

Look Waldo, Here is a fact for you, natural resources come under the jurisdiction of the provinces, at least according to the law of the land on this planet, maybe not yours. Ignorant bastards that think otherwise can go suck eggs. Here is another fact for you, provinces are supposed to be equal partners in confederation with the federal government. So how is it that some jerks seem to think that the feds rule over us? Where does this bogus concept of strong federalism come from? Here is another little fact for you Waldo, I don't speak for Albertans any more than you do. What I say, I say on my own behalf, but I will grant you this, I have spoken to hundreds of Albertans in the last week....have you? You freaking goof! Who are you to speculate about what Albertans belief or not? Are you an Albertan? Or are you just talking out of your ass like so many others who claim to know what is best for Albertans? Albertans are Canadians by citizenship, no more than anyone else, and no less than anyone else. As such each of us has the same say as any other citizens in this nation. Your desire talk down to any citizen is merely stating your own childish position. I don't advocate any disproportionate representation at all, and I would ask that you prove that I have. Its ONLY been thirty years since the NEP. That little program wiped out thousands of Alberta business's and tens of thousands of citizens. The purpose of the program was to provide a GOOD DEAL ON ENERGY to eastern Canada ! Only a complete retard would suggest that we should merely forget that it ever happened. With no respect at all I suggest you look into what the Crow rate was all about before you open your yap about it. It was freight rates to the west coast, and we were not talking just about the praires, we were talking about Alberta. You did not mention the Canada Wheat Board, and how it is illegal to sell our wheat to anybody but the fed board did you. The same product can be sold to anyone from Ontario, but not here. Did you forget that Waldo, or are you simply to ignorant of the facts? You have not begin to hear my separatist talking points buddy.

To stop giving the banks money? As in dump fractional reserve banking and actually make the banks live up to the intent of central banking? That is asking a lot. It would however serve us well to do this because we could eliminate the national debt and convert a lot more banking revenue into federal revenue streams very nicely.

Until the banks quit giving them money?

No it was not unprecedented. But Iggy needs to do something other than what the public is seeing right now.

The oil sands are Alberta's, we will do as we please with them. The nation of Canada has much power over us and every other citizen. They can do what they can within the law.

On a nice little tax payer funded pension......

Lets! I really don't like Iggy either, but he has a little pet Trudeau hiding in the wings. Thats the guy I want on the TV, it will scare the hell out of Albertans!

Alberta, love us or leave us, its your call.

I agree with you there! It is not a simple fix. I favour a republic myself.

Look folks, why not we stop bashing each other and look at the root cause of our mutual problems. The feds. These guys suck us all dry on a regular basis ! IF we, Albertans decide to stay in confederation, some changes are going to be required. Reworking the entire concept of equalization is one little hill to climb, but there are many others. Albertans know how much Ontario and other provinces have contributed to our economic growth. We are not fools, separation would not be easy. We don't want to separate, but if push comes to shove what the hell else can we do. We have no real political say, elections are over by the time they get to the Manitoba border. Folks just try to see things from our point of view. How about the CWB ? Remember the Crow rate? How about the NEP? How would your citizens respond to these things while not having enough representatives in the house to have a real say?

I don't think you understand us dude. Our idea of running a deficit is dipping into one of our bank accounts. We don't have to borrow money from anyone.

I could see Harper gone.

Its actually closer to 100 billion since the numbers have been kept. By the way while Alberta has seen 100 billion leave our province, in that same time frame Quebec has seen 100 billion enter their province. Good deal if you are from Quebec.

Do you know what the word "net" means? Alberta citizens are being raped by the rest of the nation. Please keep in mind there is only one tax payer and that the provinces themselves contribute nothing to equalization at all. Equalization is grafted from our citizens, as well as others, it does not cost the provinces a dime but yet the provinces benefit billions. Go figure it is a net transfer of wealth from the citizens to government, hidden within the system of taxation, that sees more dollars leaving Alberta than come in from the federal government. Now just what part of that do you think Alberta citizens should be happy with?

He dodged the "election" question. He said he wants parliament to work. Now how do you do that when it isn't sitting because it was prorogued? Simple, form a coalition and have the GG remove Harper as an expression of the will of the majority of citizens. Do that and Parliament goes back to work.

Equalization = BAD !!

Why do people say crap like that!

I don't hate Quebec, neither does Alberta!

Keep laughing! I for one hope that little Trudeau gets a cabinet post very soon. Once that happens separatism in Alberta will be seen very clearly.

Lets see..... NO to all of the above! I am an Alberta separatist.

Which is why the"majority" need to grow a pair and pull this off. The GG can't really stand in the way of a "majority" of members from the Hoes of Commons.

Of course he would. Unfortunately I don't think any of these folks have the balls to do what needs to be done.