NativeCharm

Thats a very interesting point. In an ideal world of indigenous soverignty, I would suggest that most registered Metis only be allowed to a vote with Inidgenous leadership as many can self identify, so they have a choice.

One of the biggest problems is the corporate bullying and the govvernment endorsing, supporting and legalizing it.

Brace yourself, you're going to be very disappointed by decolonization without discrimination.

As ive mentioned mentioned before, some live in the bush, some in towns and some in urban centres. Many that live in the city and spend their off time back in their home territory and most of those retire with the land. Each nation under each treaty is different. Do you know why and who is asking fo rmoney? or are you assuming everyone is standing there with their hand out??? You're assuming that arent you, I can tell.

You dont get it because I think you choose not too. You're missing it. Completely. Youre entitled to your opinion, your view and thats nice that you have one but i hope to hell you never lead this country. Please step aside and sit back down. In fact, get to the back of the Omnibus and keep supporting your go nowhere mentality. It is not even close to a reality. Native nations did not perservere this long under duress only to accept full colonization now. Every other possible outcome will occur before that, guaranteed. Real talk. I find it very sad that you cant even hold the thought of traditional values, even for a brief consideration. You wont even attempt to understand the goals of Idle No More, so dont even bother bringing it up.

No I meant how we are affected differently.

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I think that could be some of the confusion and concern behind bill c-45, is because of the federal/provincial "shift" of repsonsibilities. Native communities are complex and will no longer be forced to move around at the corrupt will of the corporations and the ever convenient changing without consult- harper laws. The environment, the air, THE WATER also can no longer adapt to these un natural super powers. Do you understand what we are trying to say? is it that hard to see why its simply 'not the same'? Human lifestyle in general has to change. Natural laws need to dominate all of our societies, our planet can not sustain at this rate much longer. So some of you need to get off the backs of the Indigenous peoples and get behind some of the traditional concepts. Help create the kind of legislation that can bring us all the kind of harmony we seek. Sustainable economy, sustainable environment. You bet it can end up in a fight for land, and in the blink of an eye. Legal, moral, physical, who knows. But if you cant sense the urgency and tension in the air then you havent really done your history homework. I assure you, and you can research it yourself, there is a powerful global movement to sustain the planet and it is getting stronger, faster. I must say...it's a wonderful thing to watch unfold. Interesting times, indeed. I guess you could say #IdleNOmore is like a Native version of Omnibus. While you all rip apart my comments, please keep in mind...I am not a political expert and in no way a legal expert. I am a community person that cares.

Now lets discus " some of them"...do you mean the ones living in the bush, the city, or the town? We are just learning ourselves about these differences amongst ourselves.

I agree. Healing has to occur on both sides. You will find that most Native people are striving and thriving to move forward. Most with an open mind, especially those that live in urban centres.

You do know when the last residential school closed, i hope.

If 1 and 2 were true, many horrific events in our history would never have occured such as residential school and mass graves of Native children. I am not here to bark up any tree, I was asked by several members to engage in hopefully productive dialogue. Believe me, i got better things to do than to argue over history and unjust laws and legislation. I agreed to participate in the thread in hopes of learning, sharing and trying to find some level of mutual understanding. I am now doubting whether thats possible, and think it might be best to just let you all 'pleasantly' discuss amongst yourselves about how awful the indians are.

I'm not interested in giving you a lesson on the blood stained history of Canada... and fyi, the only Natives that receive medical benefit are status and that right is diminishing, and I imagine it will completely with sovereignty. The Treaties are business arrangments that should be honored. We have been idle too long but are now more educated to fully understand how and why the deals have been breached/violated. The Native peoples are making sincere efforts to improve the quality of life, for everyone. This has never changed. The main trade in a treaty is land sharing for resource and railway development, settlement, resource and immense wealth accumulation for Settlers and their descendants in exchange for payments, health, education, economic development, social assistance, hunting and fishing rights for Aboriginal Peoples. Each treaty is individual but this is a basic framework. Self-government is a treaty right because they were signed by two sovereign Nations. The Canadian Constitution Act of 1982, Section 25 reaffirms the Royal Proclamation and Section 35 states that “existing Aboriginal and treaty rights are hereby recognized & affirmed.” These rights were extended to include Métis and Inuit as Aboriginal Peoples. Disrespecting the spirit and intent of treaties and breaking traditional governance systems was one way poverty was instilled into Aboriginal communities -We are the poorest in our own lands!

This parliament CHOSE to treat our people as not equally human. The charter of rights and freedoms did not apply to us. I do not think you have a clear concept of what our issues are, which are very much alive and in our face.

Allow me to enlighten you. First Nations include status, non status, metis and inuit. I do not receive medical, no free anything, thanks. My grnadfather fought in both wars, was promised land just as other soldiers but like all the native solliders, never received that benefit for serving and surviving. My grandmothers bought their own land (where the bred dogs for sled races) next to treaty land that has since been expropriated in the name of the tar sands My point is, not all Native have the same 'benefits' and the fact that you dont know that common knowledge proves your ignorance, which is a choice.

First off, its a tad challenging having a few of you coming at me in different directions ( and I seem to be the only rep here), and so many issues. I too feel I am being misunderstood. I dont get treated any different than you do. I work, pay taxes, eat, go to sleep, I vote and I strive for a better future. The bottom line is, there are issues. Serious environmental and economical issues, hence the frustration and the rapidly growing movement known as Idle No More.They are complex and nuanced problems compounded not just by racist ignorance but a general lack of awareness amongst non-Native Canadians.

I completely disagree with you.Those problems are not in the past, they are festering in our statistics today.I sense you will not budge in your narrow view to seek any form of understanding and I feel there is zero point in discussing this matter with you any further. We are and remain an indispensable part of the Canadian identity.

We've had our culture taken away, yet commodditized, our children murdered, stolen and sold, our language forbidden, our customs practically relinquished, and our spirituality outlawed...and you really think trying assmilating us is going to allow us to live in peace and harmony in a cultural mosaic? Do you know what year we were allowed to vote? Do you know what year we were allowed to have a bank account? We are just now gaining and barely allowed to have any opportunities for economical prosperity, yet reluctantlly watch our lands and water get stripped away into a blackness of nothing. Our roots and identity are connected to the land and its history. The sooner more people accept and respect that, the closer we get to harmony. Read this article and then talk to me. http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/12/20/parsing-the-comments-on-idlenomore/

Thats a pitiful attitude and partly why we are looking at such intense relations and critical situations in the future. I figured your true nature would show itself eventually. Its 2013 btw, and the natives have taken enough bullying from corporations and ignorant citizens. They have right to claim whats theirs, whether you like it or not .They have more legal rights than you do and i am more than confident that they will be asserting those rights very soon.

I could almost agree with you except very few ( if any) elected leaders actually have a legitimate viewpoint from Native peoples. There is a difference between an urban Native, a rural/suburban Native and those living traditional (or trying) ways of life in remote communities. Certainly, you can agree that that person would have to have a very strong and unique perspective in order to effectively do their job, in the best interests of those they represent.

So, basically you are saying... it is unjust for the Natives to have any say on who represents them and zero say on how that person allocates funding or makes any decision on their overall well being. Is that correct?

Narrow minded? Really? please tell me, how does the minister of aboriginal affairs benefit all Canadians?

Why can't we have our "Aboriginal Affairs" minister elected by the Aboriginal peoples? Why is this not an option? Its been presented to harper, several times. He continually changes laws to suit his own and his friends, surely allowing this elected official to be elected by native peoples is easily doable. I dont see an issue with that, do you?

the only solutions being offered have been at the historical and ongoing expense of the native peoples. In order to move forward you have to deal with the past, today.

A good start would be appointing a Native person, by the Native people into Duncans position.