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capitalism does not reward effort... I'll make a post on this in a few hours.

just noticed this topic. my usual responce to communisim: Pure Communisim, like Pure Capatilisim, only works on paper.

great post! I hope you stick around. as for something neal said earlier about marxists and christians. let me try my hand at it a marxist is wrong, becaue God does exist a christain is wrong, because the bible is wrong there seems to be this "understanding" on this board that the christain God exists, and that if you disagree, then you are atheist. I am presenting you with a new view. I am not the same religion as you, and I am arguing that my religion is right and your religion is wrong. The fact that most of you dance around it tells me that you cannot handle someone quesitoning your spiritual belifs, and presenting a case that another religion may be right, weather it be Tedofskyisim (what I call my religion) Judasim (very widespread) or Sunni Islam (the most popular single* religion) *single as in a sect of a larger religion. There are more Sunni Muslims then there are Roman Catholics, but Christains still outnumber Muslims by a fair margin.

you guys dont get it here is the most basic example you treat stab wounds you are not racist. to you, green people and purple people are equal. someone standing beside you, however, does not like purple people. he thinks the "purps" should go back from whence they came. whenever a "purp" walks by, he stabs them. would it not make more sence to treat mroe purple people? or, in other words, because the asshole beside you is racist, you are forced to be racist to keep things equal. all men are CREATED equal they are not treated equal and it is our job to rectify that situation.

some people discriminate against minorities. affirmative aciton, un-does that. unfortunatly, un-discriminating, is still discriminating.

again whats to say, for certain, that islam is not the right religion, and that by being christain (or aggnostic in my case) we are all going to islamic hell?

you are ignoring that fact that islam could be the right religion who says that GOD dosent want us to live its its 2003BC

speaking from a compleatly legal and technical point of view: so long as the courthouse does not prevent any other religions from putting equavilent items inside, then the 20 commandements could stay. now, I'm guessing after a few thousand (I'd send one too) items in that courthouse, I think they'd take everything out.

serve whatever you want really. serving human meet may cause some problems though.

one of the reasons I posted this was my "upsettedness" at getting god's word wrong. so many times, I hear people saying "wouldent you bow before his son" or "wouldent you follow god's word?" well, yes, I would. of course, what kinda quesiton is that. if god came to talk to me, you better beleive I'd fall to me knees. if god's son said something, you better beleive I'll listen to each and every word. but. IMHO god's son has not come back to us IMHO no book records god's word why do I think that? logic mostly. why would god send a son, for 30 years, to one part of the world, once. now, if Jesus was still alive today, then of course I'd be a christain, but he is not. also why would the bible be right, and not the quran? and vice versa for that matter. throw in the jews, and hindu's and you see my point. God wants ALL of us to be saved, not just those who happened to be around Jesus. He wouldent confine "THE" religion to one small pocket of earth (the christian world, or conversly, the muslim world, erc...) looking logically, and looking at the most widespread religion, and the luck they have had, one must conclude that God is Jewish. Sure they had Hitler and the Inquasition, but the fact that they are still around despite that, does speak to something. I would wager a bet that says that Jerusalem, for whatever reason, IS a real holy city. My issue mainly comes with moral issues I happen to think that it's morally WRONG to deny gay rights yet a christain will tell me, because I think that, that I'm going to hell and burning for ever and ever and ever. but I KNOW I am right. I feel it down deep in my soul. alternaty, he must also know that he is right. This is why I beleive that everyone is free to come up with their own morals. the God of most religion does not like that. I think that God has talked to me. now, he did not sit me down, and give me a book. but he does tell me, and EVERYONE on earth, a few simple things. his only absoulete commandment is simple. Do not cause others pain. especially purposly just to have fun. he has others, like do not kill, love thy neighbour, etc... or "be nice" in other words. Also, he says that ALL faith is good, so long as it does not violate his only commandment. meaning bin laden, and hitler, are burning in hell. but all of you, from what I can tell, are not out to hurt anyone, and therefore, are alright. God, IMHO, is a really nice guy. He doesent want us to enslave ourselvs to him. I call him "big 'G'" cause he IS the big "G" and he's real cool for creating the universe and all. I think God talks in feelings, not words. you just "know" what he's telling you. you know what's right and wrong. that's not your concience, that's God tapping you on the shoulder. If you disobey him, bad things happen. If you listen, you get lucky. I love God, and I hope he loves me. but we must always accept that different people have different opinions on religion. I may think christains are wrong, and I may even think it will hurt your chances of getting into heaven (epseically if you are anti-gay) but I have no right to force you to do what I beleive God wants. that is between YOU and GOD, I do not fit anywhere in that equasion. I guess it just annoys me sometimes, as I rarly (other then this topic) say that I am right in my religion, and ir bothers be to hear others saying it so often... but hey. all faith is good faith, so pray away!

I was just satching a news conference with that supereme court judge in alabama that put the 10 commandments in his coruthouse. I do not personally have a problem with that, and technically, it would be un-constitutional to take it away. but he also talked about god. god this and god that. well, and its about time someone said it to all christians: you are wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong WRONG. your view of god IS wrong. fortunatly, god does not want us to enslave ourselvs to him, so he really does not mind. all faith is good faith. but its really getting sick how many Billions of people are using gods name wrongly. it makes me SICK, physiclaly SICK sometimes when I think about it. I really dont know what else to say, I think I've said everything I can on this sujbect.

Talking with some on the right, I get some pretty clear impressions first of all, a single "right" and "wrong" defnition, either given by the bible, or what they think, that is blanketed on the world. if you think something is right, but they think it's wrong, then they are right, and you (depending on the bible) are going to hell to burn for ever and ever and ever. next, is the simplifacation of things in the family unit. Some right wingers, though not all, would want a family to stay togethor, for the sake of a family staying togethor, no matter if someone is being abused or not. also, is another simplifacation of economics. Capatilisim is the easiest way to make money, but not nesacarly the best. I was thinking about that... then realized... Kids look at the world this way too. black and white, right and wrong, good and evil. simple. they dont have mature minds yet. Most of the smarter people on earth (einstien, hawking, edison) were left leaning... perhaps right wingers just need to grow up? perhaps...

I think the EU should become a federation.

for lost http://www.mapleleafweb.com/community/foru...ct=ST&f=3&t=521

this goes to the heart of the debate on the constitution... I'll have to write a post, then post it. I am at "work" and do not have enough time to stay online while writing.

Mulrooney just happened to be the PC leader. I'm sure that any of the other PC leaders of the time would have accepted NAFTA. they would have not skrewed up as bad as looney mulrooney did though. also, whats with naming things after people. I went to deifenbaker school for a few years, in TO. at the time, I did not know what a defienbaker was.

Mulrooney will have a skrew driver named after him, because he helped the americans skrew us over pretty darn well. ---post edited, made "family" friendly---

ALL of you me included YOUR belifs are not 50%+1 supported. Trudeau was popular enough to get elected quite a few times. weather you like him and his "socialist / Communist / destory the country" policies, is not at issue. Weather Canada does, IS.

I dont know if I like Trudeau the person. IMHO, he was in it for himself. I DO like Trudeau the Prime Minister though. He's the best we've had since Macdonald, and is still the best we had.

finally, our best PM ever gets some recogonition.

why is the west pissed? simple. they think everoyne is a socialist out to get them.

Communisim, like Capatilism, only works on paper. currently every country uses a mix of the two, from The United States, to North Korea.

I know I've come close to the line, but I dont think I ever crossed it. the closest I came was probably in the 2 anti-islam threads. I have had mod action here though, but mostly for deleting off-topic posts, including oddly enough, a topic where I suggested we start an off-topic forum.

??? I'll have to look for them

are you a moderator? if so: I did not know that we had any moderators if not: isent impersonating a modrator (handing out a ban) also an offence of some-sort?