Canuckistani

Imagination is great. But for other scientists to believe you you'll have to provide some evidence. Imagination without evidence is just mental masturbation. We can all imagine, some people stop there and it doesn't go very far. The deep knowledge you talk about is almost impossible to convey to others. People who go on and on about it usually have got nothing.

We can swing the 5 billion, except we have way more natives - it would be way more money. Also we'd have to give away 1/9th of Canada - that's a good chunk of real estate. But no, even if we could afford it, it will never happen. Natives refuse to sign extinguishment clauses on the settlements they do make in BC. An we just go along.

Very true. People who deny logic in a scientific discussion aren't using any of their brain tho. Ah buleivvve, isn't science.

Can you both be right/wrong. If we have an all white male police force, then people are not going to feel very well represented by it. Women and minorities bring attitudes and approaches to the work that most of the white men may not have. OTOH, it can go too far. We have the police in Vancouver take course after course on aboriginals, as if they are so vastly different they need to be policed differently. The laws should apply the same to everybody, but of course we've seen that isn't true for aboriginals. And what, we're going to have people of a certain ethnicity demand they can only dealt with by a police officer of their own ethnicity and gender? We do want integration, and that should go both ways. I have no problem with trying to bring more minorities into policing, as long as they meet the same standards as the white men. Otherwise it's just racism. And one thing Canada seems to be losing is pride in its European heritage. We should be building up that pride - that's what made the country what it is, and why people want to emigrate here.

Well, I was wrong. The US also signed over 1/9th of the Alaskan land to the natives, as well as nearly a billion 1971 dollars, when that was real money. Seems to me the natives actually got a very good deal, doubt we could afford that in Canada.

What process, the resolving native issues one? It's certainly broken, but I can't see any good ideas for a restart. I'm not sympathetic to the FN cause, but this idle no more might be a good thing, at least get people talking and thinking about it. For too long we've tried to buy FN silence with a few bucks. That just creates terrible conditions for them, and gets them hooked on complaining to get a few more bucks. Not a good way to go. I understand that Alaska dismissed all native claims to the land, gave every one of them 100,000 as compensation. I'd would go for something like that. If the natives were smart, they could take that money and pool it and buy reserves back if they wanted or start corporations (pay taxes) or what have you. AFAIK, Canada has to own Canada - we can't run a country by renting it from the special people.

There is no such thing as the greatest country in the world. Define some limited paramaters and you can maybe say that for a specific person, but that's about it. I'm sure of what's his face, North Korea is the greatest country in the world.

If you're calling me a troll, I started this topic, so every comment on it is feeding me. If you don't feel it's worth discussing, don't do so.

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Who said that?

Yes it's a discussion about the US. And why not? I've certainly never heard an MD in Canada come out and say they don't believe in embryology. But I"m sure we can rely on you to point out where we did it tooooo.

Depends who's doing the perceiving. I don't perceive it as good, no. Neither here nor there. It's come up for discussion about Harper, this time I read an article about the nutbar doctor that's heading the Science committee down in crazytown. All grist for the mill.

You're perfectly right. We do it toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Harper at least has the good sense to keep his mouth shut about his religious beliefs, but I've certainly remarked on his likely beliefs, as have others. Of course maybe he's a politician like Obama, although in Canada it's worth a lot less points to be seen going to church.

Women are the creators, so my God created your God. Logical fallacy - proving some elements of the bible are historically somewhat accurate doesn't prove the historicity of the bible. Showing ruins existed of a city mentioned in the bible doesn't mean all the stories the bible sets in that city actually occurred. Showing there was a flood in the middle east doesn't prove the accuracy of the Noah and the Ark story. The presence of the Sea of Galilee doesn't prove that Jesus walked across it unless it was subjected to unusually cold temperatures during that time.

How do you know I don't know? I know. She told me.

I think he's a politician.

The King didn't rule? So what were they revolting against?

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Well as you can see, I read. I just don't get the point.

As I said, then I don't know what your'e on about. As for your God comment - that's the ultimate cop out. God is mystical and magical, so anything is possible. OK, but then don't try to try to fit mystical and magical together with science. It just creates a mess.

Where was he if there was nowhere? Along from where?

You, if the shoe fits. If that's not what you're trying to say, you're making an awful lot of fuss about floods happening and people handing down stories about them thru the ages. But it's a free world.

God has a beginning? I thought God was the uncreated? As Pope Ben says, there's no conflict between his religion and science - he has no problem with an intelligence causing the big bang, and the processes of physics chemistry and evolution giving us the the earth we now have. Science certainly can't prove him wrong. Where fundies go off the rails is trying to fit literal readings of the bible with science - no can do. There was a big flood that covered the earth - long before humans were on the scene to observe it. And it wasn't a flood, it's how the earth formed from its beginning until 2.5 billion years ago. I don't think Noah was that old.

Of course many cultures have flood myths - floods happen everywhere. To say that that whole earth was flooded several thousand years ago is just nuts - there's no evidence for it, neither geological nor biological.

Oh, well, that explains it. Of course it raises a whole bunch of other questions.