Canuckistani

I forgot. For the 2 million animals, he would have also brought food for a couple of months, and a way to keep the meat in reasonable shape. Also, just how big was Noah's family that they could feed and water 2 million animals and then shovel all their shit overboard? Busy busy busy.

And not once has he said he doesn't believe in embryology but does believe the earth is 9000 years old. What kind of God forsaken church is this man going to, anyway?

Er hum. We've already identified 1.5 million animal species, of which maybe 1 million live on land. We're finding thousands of new species every year, plus there are the species we know have gone extinct in human memory. So that would be at least 2 million animals that would have had to find a place on the ark, since none evolved since the flood. Also the seeds for about 300,000 plant species, plus all the bacteria and viruses kept in safe storage.

If that's what they're being taught there, please keep them. But I bet that's not what mainstream unis there teach their students. Just Big Bob's Bible College and School of Vacuum Repair.

Sad, really. You've gotta wonder about the education system in the US.

Green cheese moon and no evolution in our Constitution? Say it isn't so.

No dinos = they didn't make it on the ark, which is why they died out. God then buried them in sediments that appear to atheist scientists to be millions of years old, but are of course less than 9000 years old. God did this to test the faith of Christians. Actually I think he made Jesus do it if he wanted to get his allowance that week.

Nope. I have a feeling if they told the examiner the moon was made of green cheese they would have flunked. Guess they kept their wacky ideas to themselves.

All part of the stupid whole. Not a lot of bright bulbs in that chandelier. I want to know how he passed his uni and medical exams?

Yep. When so many people are killed, what's a few hundred more.

He found those things? But even if he did, as Kimmy points out, that doesnt mean that the flood covered the whole earth, that all animal species around today were on that ark, that God had anything to do with this, etc etc. At best, there was a guy named Noah who survived a flood with his family and domestic animals, and for some reason chose to name his boat Ark.

And, as I said, Newton only got it right as far as he could see. When people could see further, they saw where he got it wrong - God is not a giant watchmaker, but a gambler. What mechanism exists in monotheism to modify the bible as further information comes in. Seems the last time anybody did that was 2000 years ago.

Er, hum - didn't y'all just have a derecession? Rather bracing, wasn't it, and y'all are still feeling the effects? But you're right. Bring on the tax increases for the middle class and up, cut all the loopholes like the mortgage deduction, and you'll be good. Oh, just go to a single payer health system and you could almost wipe out your annual deficit in one fell swoop.

Yep, we manned up and went thru it, did us a lot of good. Remains to be seen if Americans have the toughness required. But nice "you did it tooooo" Well actually we did it, and y'all didn't. Always hope I guess.

Belief in God /= non-belief in evolution and embryology. Y'all have ob/gyn and pediatricians who don't believe in embryology? How barbaric.

You're right. While I think the austerity caused by the lack of a deal will hurt the US, and us as well, it might be a good slap in the face and maybe wake them up from their "we can't handle the truth" dream.

Sin of onanism - don't spill your seed on the ground. Just one example.Not the first doc to believe in the bible. I sure wouldn't want a doc who doesn't believe in evolution and embryology. Nice sharp hatchet they have, too.

I'm not sure what point or analogy you're trying to make here? What is the equivalent of Newtonian mechanics in the bible? And, Newtonian mechanics have been superseded by quantum mechanics as new discoveries were made. Where's the book to supersede the bible?

Safer than it has been for a long time - crime is down both here and in the US. Land of the free - was always more of an empty slogan than anything else. People in democracies are as free as they want to be. Moral vacuum - you mean like discrimination against gays and non-whites. Seeing domestic violence against women and rape of a wife as perfectly moral? What we've done to Natives? The vacuum is certitude, ie most people believing the same "truths", rather than actual morality.

No, and such a huge flood didn't happen. The earth, during the time of humans, was not completely covered in water. It's people of a locality mistaking their place for the whole earth, because it's all they know. Just as they could think they are God's chosen people. I don't think the ark is the best example of karma. And my understanding of karma is that it's your actions that come back at you, not innocent bystanders. The bible says "the sins of the fathers" and there's truth in that, but it's not karma. Karma doesn't mesh with monotheism, since it needs reincarnation to function. What you've talked about are all good things to consider. The ark story is a very poor vehicle to illustrate them, the bible has much better. The ark story doesn't seem to have any deeper meaning (unless you want to put it there), it's just the story of the survivors of a natural disaster, embellished over the years, and also for political reasons. Not everything in the bible if of equal depth or wisdom. It's a book written by humans, so it contains a lot of nonsense as well.

You did it tooooo. But, you're right, more craziness we've imported from the US.

As the article says, he's an MD who doesn't believe in evolution nor embryology. But does believe that the earth is 9000 yrs old - ie doesn't believe the entire structure of physics and chemistry. And what kind of social engineer would he make (more so than he already is)? Back to a hand for a hand and masturbation is evullll and raping your daughters and all the other good stuff in the bible?

I don't laugh off myths at all, I recognize them for what they are and the truth they can hold. It's just not literal truth. But the idea that a natural event is caused by humans being bad is a childish one - it's exactly the sort of thinking children engage in, where they think they are responsible for events totally out of their control. Now if the flood was caused by humans cutting down all the trees, that's another matter.

It's not laughable at all. How people choose to interpret it, on the other hand, is another matter.