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I don't understand how these holocaust deniers are hurting the Jews - even if their close relative died why do they are what someone else thinks about the history of their people. I think the government put a dark cloud over them by enacting the denier laws and the issue would have ended a long time ago.

These guys don't really believe this. No way. The WMD twins have been playing this same game since the cold war. Even in the cold war the CIA told them Russia didn't have any hidden weapons of mass destruction. They insisted that Russia did and the cold war continued despite Russias offers of peace. Rumsfeld & Cheney have been playing the same game all the time with these big opponents. In Iraq war #1 they said Saddam may have hidden Weapons Of Mass Destruction Its pathetic that people still believe it - I don't think they do. These guys are making less than 10 million per year and all really think they are going to be sitting at the head table with the Rothschilds & Rockefellers when its all over.

That may be true, Canadian tire may print it as well but its not debt free currency as that statement implies. Every dollar in circulation in the USA pays private bankers interest. No, thats not the reason. There is no government created currency in the USA except possibly coinage. Look on a bank note from the USA. They all say "Federal Reserve Note". You should read a whole book on this sometime. Depending on rational reasoning & government sites on banking is stupid because even JK Galbraith says they deliberately make it confusing and misleading so that people will not understand the true nature of how banking works.

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You should change your diet. The Federal Reserve dollar is created currency. I don't know who actually prints it - that is irrelevant. I think its printed in Canada but lent into existence by the Federal Reserve. It may be that the US government even pays for it but it is not debt free currency as the above statement implies. In Canada and many other countries actual currency is government created but not in USA. Coinage is usually government created currency but the folding stuff isn't.

You have been argueing in the opposite way. You argue for private bankers who create currency - as much as they want and do not even have to report how much to the government.

Right - anyone with two eyes can see the collapses were unnatural and controlled because the buildings collapsed straight down. For the building collapses to occur symetrically like that all supports on each floor would have to collapse at the same time. That would be like throwing a 100 basket balls onto a pile and have them all balance directly on top of each other to form a straight vertical tower that is 100 basket balls high - impossible. No, I don't. Explain. Or you are just a fool that doesn't recognise his own limitations and understanding. I was wrong, he has bachelors degrees but with distinction. I could do it with some duct tape, explosives and maybe a hammer. The airplane wasn't converted to a pulse jet engine in the literal sense - the explosion inside behaved like one. Its like if you put gas in a beer bottle and set a match at the top - a flame shoots out.

Not true. Where did you get that from - same rectal source as usual ? According to that reasoning used toilet paper is legal tender.

No you haven't. Your links do not explain money creation they only explain how it is managed without showing how its created. All economics text books do this. How would you interpret the above quote by Stamp when he talks about deposit creation ? I think there is only one way myself. Perhaps another has emerged from your rectum.

Riverwind, Canadian Tire money isn't legal tender.

Henry Ford said: (see Why a Bankrupt America by Devvy Kidd) "It is well enough that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe that there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." U.S. President Andrew Jackson said: (See The American Bulletin, 11/91) "If the American people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning..." - Henry Ford I don't think people are capable of understanding this today. Many posters act as if they were Rockefeller himself and are absolutely determined not to understand this.

If anyone wants to send extra money for income tax the government would just refund it but I am sure there is a way that you could send Rockefeller or Rothschild a few extra dollars if you wanted. I'm sure that it would be appreciated. Perhaps they would even fly you to the UK to get your picture taken kneeling before the Queen - if you sent them enough.

Yes, he explains how the government can legally "dissapear" people or put masses into concentratiuon camps. They haven't lowered this cloud yet that we know of but if you see someone abducted by the government it is illegal to tell anyone. It doesn't matter of you think its rediculous. Think with your brain because its fact. That fact that he has been re elected several times means he has something over many others. I can expect many folks on this forum to object to anyone that speaks against the money interest. I have no idea how the banks accomplished this.

I think jbg doesn't like me because I understand banking and the role lawyers really play in society. This stuff is supposed to be kept hidden. jbg could never talk about the banks without having to look over his shoulder all the time. He is an idiot too. He cannot pick anything wrong with my posts and throws around insults like a ten year old.

I think Hololka did the killings. She wanted to give Paul gifts of young women. Paul just wanted to rape them. He wasn't a killer until Karla came along. I think Danson is probably getting paid from the public teat although he does benefit from the publicity. You can never trust a lawyer in Canada because its virtually impossible to hold them responsible for their actions. He is probably double billing for his services.

You pay for your courses in economics in university don't you ? Price is not really equal to some constant multiplied by the ratio of Demand/Supply yet people pay good money to learn that. Paying for our own propoganda is nothing new.

Statement at Hearing of the House Financial Services Committee, February 15, 2007 Transparency in monetary policy is a goal we should all support. I've often wondered why Congress so willingly has given up its prerogative over monetary policy. Astonishingly, Congress in essence has ceded total control over the value of our money to a secretive central bank. Congress created the Federal Reserve, yet it had no constitutional authority to do so. We forget that those powers not explicitly granted to Congress by the Constitution are inherently denied to Congress – and thus the authority to establish a central bank never was given. Of course Jefferson and Hamilton had that debate early on, a debate seemingly settled in 1913. But transparency and oversight are something else, and they're worth considering. Congress, although not by law, essentially has given up all its oversight responsibility over the Federal Reserve. There are no true audits, and Congress knows nothing of the conversations, plans, and actions taken in concert with other central banks. We get less and less information regarding the money supply each year, especially now that M3 is no longer reported. ..... Statement at Hearing of the House Financial Services Committee, February 15, 2007 People are waking up about the banks but we need a mass awakening. Our taxes can be lower, government services could be a lot better and the USA could have a Canadian style hospitalization program and people could have more money or more free time. The media control could easily be the next target after monetary reform. Monetary Reform could change our lives in ways that we cannot even imagine. We could have free education, free medical care, & much lower taxes. Schools could teach the truth about economics and money creation and not be dependent apon banker sponsored foundations fro research. Cancer can be cured. Rockefeller bought up all cancer clinics in the 30's and closed them. Pharmaceutical control of medacine could end. Ron Paul is seeking the presidential nomination. He will get exactly zero attention from mainstream media. He has been re elected about four times as congressman. He speaks against the financial interest who owns the media. If you believe his message then you must help to spread it.

The American government is anti capitalist. Thats why they deregulated banks and allow all these big mergers. They are marxists. John D Rockefeller once said "competition is a sin". Rockefellers own and operate the USA. The Americans have been going to war with people oriented governments to put corrupt dictators in place. Name a corrupt dictator that wasn't put into power by the Americans. They do this so that the dictator can be paid off to bring the banks in - which have a monopoly on money creation. See Confessions Of An Economic Hit Man by John Perkins.

Riverwind: Do you ever volunteer your time to help corporations lobby governments ? Are you familiar with the term "burning down your own house" ?

I think that a tube filled with explosives would act just like a pulse jet engine. I listened to Hawkings and find his theories to make sense. I have a bachelors degree in engineering and a little bit of tactile experience playing with gasoline as a kid. (it was a hobby when my parents were not home) You have a high school education and are calling someone with a Phd in thermodynamics a fool. I suppose youy think the army captain that is working with him as a fool too. Perhaps you are the fool. I think after a certain velocity scientific principles change. The iron clad laws that you learned in high school are not really laws because they have "envelopes of applicability". I think the high speed explosives may behave a little differently because of the velocity. I don't know - I am no chemist.

The government is try to convince us that it was an accident. I used to use the same excuse when I was a kid and did something wrong. "I didn't know" The government with its ability to wage war is not dumb enough to make all the mistakes. The confusion at NORAD was created.

Riverwind, Read the quotes. They do explain why but not all of them. "The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing." - Josiah Stamp ""Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits." -Josiah Stamp What is it that is so hard for you to understand about this. Are you just determined to be ignorant ?

All three. I forget the titles.

I don't know and the minority report should not apply here (nor anywhere else) Sending suicide bombers is an indication of giving up against an evil that you cannot live with. Its not crazy.

Canadian soldiers are fighting and dying overseas for the benefit or international bankers and the global oligarchy. They are protecting a 600 billion dollar per year heroine trade. If you stand behind the troops you cannot possibly be for this war.