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Not surprisingly, you and your lefty buddies seem to share and support the same opinion and political actions as that 'French supremacist', the same guy that gave us that racist, discriminating, social engineered, (English speaking biased) Charter.

Certainly I support these kinds of policies but what lead to Mr. Arar being tortured was simply because he was a Syrian, a citizen of Syria as well as of Canada. The U.S. had evidence of their own on Mr. Arar and this is probably the main factor that led to his deportation. First of all I would not have been tortured, nor any of my family would have been tortured, nor anyone I know would NOT have been tortured, since we are all posess ONLY a single Canadian citizenship. The only place any of us would have been deported is back to Canada. The war on terror is a weird war. It is a poor man's war targetting countries of the world with the U.S. a special target. Knowing this, it is beyond all logic as to why you would question, preliminary interrogation by a country trying its hardest to defend itself from from the effects of killer terrorist mostly or all from Islamic countries with Arab characteristics. You call this racial profiling, under the conditions this war presents itself. LOL, all the way to the bathroom. Maybe not 'officially' but obviously he must have been aware of at least a few tell tale signs that he: "At the time their movements were under close scrutiny by at least three police surveillance teams." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maher_Arar You don't know that for certain as a criminal trial could uncover plenty that the inquiry did not have the power to investigate. Also there is U.S. evidence that to this day we don't know what it is. One sure way to find what this evidence is to coach Mr. Arar to enter the U.S. where he would be quickly apprehended again and brought to trial. How do you know that when you don't know what the U.S. evidence is and what kind of kind of impact that would have in prompting further investigation in areas not covered by the inquiry here in Canada? Here are a few other links for your reading pleasure: http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002388.php http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.ht...k=55410&p=1

The purpose of the commission was: If you notice Ontario does not go near this issue as religion is a component of culture is protected by Charter Rights. I agree it is a problamatic mess. This is why I have been advocating the scrapping of the Charter, as these rights enshrined in our constitution makes it difficult, if not impossible to implement any type of controls, to protect Canadians from being buried in foreign ideologies which if left unchecked will eventually change our countries current Western ideologies. Anyways it's clear Pauline Mario is beating Quebec's language drums again in a way that tarnishes her reputation because what she is saying that 'Quebec is a francophone state' could be true in that context , but with no powers to demand this type of power over its immigrants, since Quebec is not a sovereign State or a country. After looking at the 194 countries and Sates in the world, I do not see Quebec as being one of them. Looks like Pauline Mario is shooting for or at least opening that 'Pandora's Box' relating to 'country status' for Quebec.

Sorry, here is the link to the above story. http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/n...d4-741c307a2d14

If Quebec is a francophone state it must have acquired that title by Mr. Harper giving it the status of a nation (within Canada). This then makes Quebec: http://geography.about.com/cs/politicalgeo...statenation.htm But of course this does not qualify Quebec as a sovereign 'State' with a capital 'S'. So, to demand this type of control over its immigrants when it is not a real 'State' smacks of outright racism and is an illegal move since it does not qualify as a sovereign State but is simply another province in Canada with the status of a nation-state which has the same borders has a State. Does this prove the PQ is off the deep end or is Pauline Marois correct in saying what she said.

Countries need policies to safe guard their citizens and national interest. Facts are individuals, epecially those who hold dual citizenship and in a time of terrorism, and partaking in international travel and under investigation could be considered a menace to the country and deportion should not have come as a surprise to Arar who dared to travel when he knew he was a terrorist suspect. But what exactly was Arar found innocent of, as this inquiry was not a criminal trial A criminal trial is what this man should have faced.

I quoted it for the issue's that are near identical to my concerns and whether or not I signed the petition is my business. What are you anyways, KGB? I did give evidence how the federal government intervened by outlawing certain parts of Christianity and its related traditions in our schools. But the important concern of the WECC culture is an area relating to the political transformation of objectives which could lead Canada down a different political route, to the formation of different political objectives not compatible with Western culture. This will be a major problem as the ethnic population continues to increase. An example of this is the previous attempt in Ontario by Muslims to implement Sharia Law which if proved successful would have set a precedent not only in Ontario but all of Canada.

Definition of immigrant='come as a permanent resident to a country other than ones native land'. I see no fault in describing 'temporary foreign workers' as ' temporary immigrant workers'. I use this description for a prime reason, which allows me to to total 'immigrants, along with 'temporary immigrant workers' to avoid confusion in the number of individuals entering Canada from foreign lands. In this particular case we add 260,000 immigrants plus 120,000 'temporary immigrant workers giving us a grand total of 380,000 individuals per year, who have one way or another, can all be considered a burden, on, in particular 'housing' and other important concerns listed to what you refer to as a 'White supremacist group' with important issues that ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED BY OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

The petition is of no concern to me. What is important to me are the issues, which I agree with 110%. If you don't think the issues are significant or at least debatable, then I would say this makes you intolerant of the truth and demonstrates again your bias against 'White, English speaking, Christians' and their concerns against mass immigration.

What these workers are: I call these workers 'Temporary immigrant workers', (not official), over Renegades objections. http://www.immigrationwatchcanada.org/

I will use the words I feel that correctly describes the situation and if you don't feel that's up to Renegade's standards, to damn bad. You go play with your pink friends with your word games while you are tipping glasses of white wine and giggling over who trumps who with seldom used words. Your mouth means NOTHING on this board in the way of giving any type of lessons or advice. Only management has the right to prevent anyone from further posting on this board or warning anyone of any type of infraction. There is no way your Mouth is going to halt free speech. If it was clear I am racist, I would have been banned a long time ago. But clearly that is not the case and I am fully permitted to deal with the question of what mass immigration is doing to Canada.

Well then that makes you a moron, population growth is a main factor and immigration does and causes a great number of undesireable things: $ Immigration $ Canadian Social Programs Suffering Health Care Deterioration Infectious Diseases *The Housing Issue* Canadian Public Education Canadian Roads and Highways Immigration and Crime Canada, a Terrorist Haven? Lies they Tell Us Immigration Reform Necessary for Canada’s Survival http://www.petitiononline.com/z651742/petition.html Because it is not the same thing. For every 10 babies born and when matured, some will buy houses, some will rent, some will live with heir parents, some will relocate, some will marry=two to a single dwelling, etc. This is unlike 10 adult immigrants stepping off of a plane that require immediate instant housing, this stresses the housing market, but it is not ten it is hundreds of thousands annually into a few select major cities. BTW- I am discontinuing posting in this thread as the board is not operating correctly (only in this thread ) due to some type of unknown intervention, causing me to rewrite several times and not being able to post or not being able to backspace, resulting in spelling errors that cannot be corrected unless you are lucky enough to write everything you have to say without making a single error. Also you are one of the most arrogant posters I have ever encountered. Intelligent people never belittle in the fashion you do which indicates brown boy, you have an inferiority complex. You are an inferior little being, probably trying to imitate the White guys that put you in your place using words that you will never forget.

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/s...e09&k=95800 Excuse me! So, Jack Jedwab, director of the Montreal-based Association for Canadian Studies says dual citizenship is a phoney debate and that there is no evidence that membership with two nations diminishes a person's attachment to Canada. "That tells us there's a phoney quality about the debate," says Jedwab, dismissing arguments that holding two sets of citizenship papers contributes to "divided loyalties" or "dilutes" the meaning of citizenship. When I look at an issue like dual citizenship, I look at that issue from the standpoint, 'including all Canadians'. I then ask myself the question 'what if all Canadians were dual citizens', would the the response from government be supportive. I should guess not and their reply would be something along the lines 'dual citizenship would NOT be in the interest of Canada and could leave the country in a dangerous awkward position. So why can't the federal government stand in defense of a single Canadian citizenship, instead of allowing the luxury of easily escaping the confines of Canada and possibly neglecting their social obligations to a select few. For example, relating to crime, social upheaval, disease, risky political actions relating to a politician, large increase in taxes, climate change. But more important than ever is the responsibility or commitment to a single country, like in a marriage, it just isn't there being a dual citizen and is like having two wives with the option of running to the other whenever one chooses, for whatever reason. What's your take?

You would have to be some type of 'moron' not to recognize the fact that in 3.5-4years, a combination of immigrants and temporary immigrant workers totalling 1.5 million adults looking for housing would not have affect on the demand for housing. And this has been going since 1990, which represents (APPROX.) over 4-million foreign adults thrown into the housing market, in a handful of major Canadian cities. I have answered this question many times from the ( hate the White crowd) in different thread and am not doing it again. It is hard to believe, someone who claims to be knowledgeable, would not know what culture is pertaining to ones country. In fact the federal government has intervened into our major Christian religion, outlawing parts in our most important place of learing being our schools. You still don't understand the incompatibility factor relating to major differences between our majority docile Christian religon and the highly disciplined political/religions common to ethnics in this country especially relating to Islam associated with terrorism and Sharia Law. Maybe you are living in degenerate part of the city and simply don' recognize it. I am certain the ones responsible for the transformation of acceptable housing into slums might not be aware either or point the finger elsewhere. You know the system does not supply statistics on criminal acts by race. All you have to do though is look in media (newspaper or television) at pictures of supects being careted away and you will be made aware the large majority are not 'White'. Canadians have established the fact certain jobs do not pay enough to afford one to live to according to the basic minimal requirements of being able to support oneself Other jobs are broken up from what used to be a single good paying postion, to several lower paying postions again not paying enough for even a single person to subsist. Then you wonder how slums are created. Most Canadians won't live 4-5 or more to a small apartment or rent a house shared by many. This of course lowers the quality of life for their neighbours with the many other problems associated with this sort of lifestye including the creation of insatnt slums. Many Canadians are complaining by being forced to exist with standards on the same level to that of a dog. If you accept those standards you are contributing to the downfall of civilized living conditons in Canada and contributing to a degenerate society.

Another personal attack from an arrogant little brown boy with a 'hate the Whites' chip on his shoulder. Temporary workers for all practical purposes use the same resources as REAL immigrants and Canadians do and are in fact 'Temporary immigrant workers'. So their large numbers 120,000 annually do have a direct impact on housing and services and usage relating to infrastructure. Who says the Liberals have to be back in power to realize immigration growth relating to the 1% of the total population policy goal for 2007, which would be 330,000 immigrants. We will just have to wait and see. http://www.immigration.ca/permres-gii-elections2006.asp Read this link. You have no evidence relating to the problems of large scale ethnic immigration in this country. It is obvious you fail to grasp the incompatibility factor even relating to the uselessness of foreign degrees and their 'worth nothing' qualifications in this country.

How about waiting until the end o 2007 and then you should see that anticipated figure of 330,000 immigrants or close to it, since we are clearly working up to 1% of Canada's population. BTW- Currently we are well over the 330,000 figure if you include temporary immigrant workers that bring the number of immigrants into Canada to 380,000, 260,000+120,000 = 380,000. That's a lot of people that need a place to live and this is what we are talking about. Yes, you did. This is not a population change its a bloody invasion. Evidence is there. Canadians cannot find homes. Major foreign religions are overtaking the White culture and its cultural objectives. Major cities are turning into slums. We have more crime and gangs related to visible minorities than ever. Makes all the difference in the world. You have already been reported for your racist allegations. Why should they. Companies don't want to pay fair wages. That is why the federal government want ethnic immigrants. They work for nothing and are so grateful for getting out of the piss hole country they came from. Definitely not up to our standards but up to the standards of the cheapo companies that also are being allowed to wreck our country in the name of corporate Canada.. Hope so. Its our Whitey majority Christian country.

What difference does it make???? This is still mass immigration in any man's language. One million mainly ethnic immigrants every 3.5-4 years. We are taking MASS IMMIGRATION and the undesirable effect it has on Canada and has the ability to destroy the White English speaking Christian Canadian and their objectives, their traditions and their culture. IMV, the possible destruction of Canada as a country. It was not only the immigrants of 1913-14, it was all Canadians up to the time of TRUDEAU'S CHARTER in 1982. Stop being ridiculous Renegade, as you do not have the ability to read into or predict the future. In the future quote what I said, as i cannot reply to a single word. What I said was: What Canada is doing is entirely experimental hinging it's future with ethnic mass immigration. Why should I present any other factors only to be labelled racist by a 'White' hater like you. Time will tell my little brown friend. The majority of very large majority Canada's immigration as always been 'White', with common ideologies in line with the objectives of the country. Is this supposed to be a good thing? Nope. I have personally seen those golden domes all over the place.

Banks pay federal taxes on corporate profits. The richer banks get, the richer the federal government becomes. Do you see the hand in hand relationship??????? This is the whole point. Housing is becoming less and less available thanks to the demands of millions of adult immigrants. Who created the conditons for Canadian housing to be so readily available. Immigrants? I don't think so! Native Canadians and their society did. No one else. This is where the federal government has failed to support THEIR MASS IMMIGRATION EXPERIMENTAL PROJECT. The baby boom does not compare to hundred of thousands immigrants, yearly, stepping off of a plane in search of housing.

Can you prove what you are saying as being viable at the present time? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_sands

It could look like a yearly target when this link suggest, "Between July 1, 2005 and July 1, 2006, Canada's population increased by 324,000 to an estimated 32,623,500." But it appears this number is a mix of natural birth rate and immigration. Under Harper and the Conservatives though, looks like we took in more immigrant than under the liberals, which means we are headinding towards that 1% of Canada's population immigration rate. It is also worthwhile to note that Canada's tiny population compared to the U.S., international immigration accounted for two thirds of Canada's population growth, compared to 38% of U.S. growth despit the fact they have ten times the population. Canada is an established country Your statement is nonsensical and will require proof. There are factors you are totally overlooking that could actually spell the complete reverse from what you are saying. This is not a racist statement is a factual one. Ethnic immigrants are coming into Canada from a third world countries with all modern amenities at their fingertips all done for them thanks to native Canadians and their established country. There is nothing left to do but walk into a job and entertain their own cultural requirements. The countries these ethnics come from have very few diversity's, with religion and culture being number one diversity. The number of very expensive Mosques and temples in this country are forever increasing proving religion is a number one priority along with various cultural activities that encourage segregation. I have heard about Whites being told to get out of their subsidized housing units as this is no longer a White neighbourhood.

No, but the offer to own one's own home becomes irresistible and encourages one in doing so especially when banks offer ultra-low interest rates and extended long term mortgages. Sure, with financial institutions laughing in your face. Remember what I said Paul Martin when PM, suggested Canadians invest in new cars and homes. Don't worry they will always find ways to make you blow every penny you earn. Hey don't forget the Fed's have to pay off people like Mr. Arar and need moola to support Charter related,federal cultural aspirations and obligations. Like I was saying previously the smallest property is expensive. We don't all work for the federal public service or live in Alberta. I am not happy to give away the supply of traditional Canadian housing based on birth and not mass immigration to ethnic immigrants. If they do loose their shirts it is because they were willing participants originally. Yes I know and artificial demand from instant mass immigration is another. By artificial I mean it is not linked to the country's natural birth rate but from a source NOT PLANNED FOR.

There is no escaping the evils of globalization and mass ethnic immigration which of course in the U.S., is illegal immigration of the Mexican variety.

You are so right, as there isn't much left of our Tory British roots, thanks to the Americanization and Liberalization of Canada with all the socialist bells and whistles, including mass foreign immigration. Bwa-a-a-a-a-a, seems God Save Canada is the only option we have left.

That includes the $10.5 million dollar settlement paid to Arar, according to the article. That is what makes this case all the more bizarre, as Arar was never convicted of anything in the way of terrorism here in Canada and profits tremendously from actions of another country. Arar was under investigation as a terrorist suspect by CIA and FBI and Arar's lawyers managed to place blame on an incompetent RCMP to clear Arar of any charges. Many aspects of Arars investigation remains unknown to the public to this day. How a civilian investigation managed to probe into the inner workings of Canada's national security, especially during a period of active ongoing world terrorism is not understood by this poster and shows how weak national security is in this country. Very true. Much less being paid $10.5 million for the honour.

There are thousands of Canadians who have bought homes only because of low interest rates that have allowed them to this and can barely afford their mortgage payments. It takes quite a long time before you see any real difference in your principle especially with 25-30 year mortgages and if interest rates rise could mean thousands of Canadians simply walking away from mortgages and homes. This is a nightmare scenario. That would require the kind of proof that is almost impossible to obtain. Wages are pretty high in New York City, especially in Manhattan. http://www.bls.gov/ro2/qcew9310.htm