Signals.Cpl

What about cars? Drunk drivers kill people all the time, should we punish all drivers for the actions of a few?

But are drones advanced to the point of being able to replace a live pilot on the aircraft rather than someone a few hundred km away watching on a screen?

So you like the idea that any criminal would know where to get their pistols and ammunition from? If I was a criminal I have thousands of choices to pick up weapons and ammunition and with a little research I can do so safely. Think about it, where do a large portion of the guns on Canadian streets come from? A lot of them come from thefts, so do you think its the greatest idea to write up the target list for the criminals? Santa has been busy since every gang banger with a brain and some patience now has a source of weapons and ammunition for the taking.

If I was in the market for a gun and I had access to google and Facebook I would make a list of the owners in a comfort zone and start researching. With Facebook, twitter and a dozen other sites I can get enough information as to the owner and who lives with them etc... two days of research on the street they live on and I can see their habits during the workday and other important tidbits, you already have their name and address getting the rest for anyone determined enough should be easy. For idiots criminals who cannot take advantage of a valuable piece of intelligence like this we will shall not worry, but we need to worry about the guys and gals who are in need and willing to be smart about it as they are the people to take full advantage of this intelligence. How many of those gun owners have been on online forums such as MLW or forums that are specifically dedicated to discussing firearms discussing and/or bragging about the firearms in their possession? With determination and a bit of luck you can google them with some variations to the search parameters and you can see that John Smith has written on forum xyz about his collection of Pistols and AR15 rifles, he also keeps plenty of ammunition as clearly specified in his numerous posts so now you know he has at least two pistols and two rifles with plenty of ammunition and thus is a good target. For the events in Connecticut this is irrelevant as the firearms were all legal and were in the possession of the gunman's mother but for the shooting in Webster, N.Y. where presumably the weapons were stolen or purchased on the black market by a suicidal mentally ill man I would say this is quite relevant, now the next guy who cannot legally purchase a weapon knows where to get his hands on one, and I doubt the gunman in Webster had much thought for self-preservation so whats to stop him from looking at a map and charge in to the first target he sees. 99% of those permit holders are most likely responsible and safe with their firearms and now the newspaper has placed all of them at risk.

Well now you know where you can go to arm yourself if you are careful and where you can go with your new weapon and rob homeowners who don't have the means to open fire. Would it be a good idea to release such information in a gang infested neighbourhood? At that point the gangs know who to target to get the weapons they need...

I would prefer to hand over security to our airspace over to the US rather than have the illusion of security without the ability to meet even the most rudimentary emergency within our country. We either have enough to defend our airspace from whatever threat there is, or we let someone else do it for us. Drones are great but they do not and are not advanced enough at this stage of the game to replace the human factor which could make the difference between mission success of failure due to the ability to gain intelligence and use it immediately instead of watching through a computer screen from hundreds if not thousands of km away.

Yeah, the jews sure asked for it being all militaristic and killing Germans indiscriminately... right?

I have demonstrated knowledge by refuting your childish "theories", you can't recognize knowledge because you have none to speak of can't recognize what you don't have now can you? Yeah sure, its clear who is inventing problem and who is not, unfortunately for you people see how full of sh*t you are. Damn right you haven't, since you only create "solutions" for imaginary problems... You cannot address a problem because you have no identifiable shred of knowledge to lend to this discussion, all you have is useless ideas that will take one of the best and most professional militaries in the world and destroy it and its abilities. Save a few dollars by wasting billions if not trillions with your rabid solutions all the while being a proponent of genocide... you have build quite a reputation here as the guy who knows absolutely nothing about anything yet is an "expert" in everything. Glad you recognize your BS too... so its not just us.

And what is the alternative? No aircraft at all?

I don't think anyone actually wants that mess...

Genocide is the mass murder of innocent people, not some way of killing off criminals who commit atrocities.

Clearly with your vast experience in all sorts of military matters through Call of Duty I would now bow out seeing as I only have five years experience in the REAL MILITARY... If by cost effectiveness you mean wasting billions for solving problems that don't exist then yes... but you seem to be an expert in wasting money rather than cutting costs.

Genocide is genocide, there is no my genocide and your genocide but one genocide its simple...

He actually covered your ideas pretty well in about 20 words... Lucky for him he is not dishonest. Lets buy the right aircraft, just not in numbers that can do anything worthwhile. One aircraft type is hard enough to maintain as it is, having a dozen designs means that we will be stuck with ever increasing costs in upkeep as we need to train the same technicians on a dozen different and sometimes incompatible systems. Your idea was to save a couple of million dollars by wasting hundreds of billions... really smart. Not when you add up the upkeep and all that fine stuff... Keep in mind that they pay their soldiers a lot less than us therefore a lot of their upkeep cost is cut... You need to delve deeper in to the logistic and supply side before you make such obviously faulty suggestions.

It might be naive of me, but I want him to see the light...

We do have some important posts on this thread... we found out that Genocide is justifiable... in fact its preferable method to control criminals for some members here.

Yeah and we don't need solutions to problems that don't exist. Not in the real world, in the real world the cooks are a necessity, we can work without them but any savings from them will be overshadowed by the massive increase in costs associated with the unnecessary "solution", suddenly we will have to go without in training and equipment to solve your imaginary problem. If you are going to pretend to know anything about the CF might as well use the terms associated with this military. You use the terms you learned from all those computer games you play right? Thats where you get all your knowledge on the subject right? By doing their jobs rather than wasting money and time traveling hundreds of km per day because you want to "solve" a problem that does not exist. There are ways to make Canada safer and none of your "solutions" come even close, in fact most of them move us further away due to their sheer idiocy. Because spending money and time on training a solider only to see him leave 5 years later serves n purpose, you just end up with an inexperienced force because all the experience people left. When in a force of 70,000 you have 500 or 1000 experienced troops you lose the quality we have. Imagine having to replace the soldiers every few years and having none with experience more then a couple years. If you can't see it I feel sorry for you...

We are talking about removing an essential trade like cooks, consolidating on the nortel campus solves nothing when it comes to barracks and cooking space in Shilo. And billions per year is the construction of the buildings on a dozen or more bases at the same time with the maintenance and upkeep this means it is not disproportionate at all. Comedy gold, moving barracks brick by brick... But that was your argument, the CF is selling off buildings and infrastructure so we can justify removing the cooks. Really? Explain... BTW Recon is an American term not a Canadian one... How would me traveling the SAME road twice a day for 2 and a half hours each time improve the safety of Canada? Because I know what I am talking about... Oh no it doesn't this would be the WORST possible situation for the military to be avoided at all costs.

Do you honestly think that losing your 6 year old child in may is any less devastating then losing them right before christmas?

Somewhat significant difference between genocide and killing a war criminal or someone guilty of human rights abuses. Genocide is not the act of murdering guilty criminals, it is the act of murdering a specific race, nationality or religious group. Buy a dictionary and it might save you from looking like an idiot while promoting genocide. Either you don't know what the word means or you have some serious issues. Genocide is never justified, at least not to the entire world, maybe you can justify it within one small entity like the NAZI's and the Hutu's or the Turks did but they were not justified when it comes to the rest of the world, the justification that you killed hundreds of thousands if not millions to "protect yourself" doesn't hold water with many people. Define need? I need to kill therefore the genocide is warranted? If one person is a threat you deal with that one person, you can never justify the murder of hundreds of thousands just because one guy was a murderer. How so? I really wanna see this one...

Spending billions of dollars to build infrastructure on dozen or more bases simply because is not a solution to anything...in fact it steals money that is desperately needed for better equipment and training. You want to solve a problem then find an actual problem to solve rather than creating a problem. The CF has one job and only one job, it is there to protect Canadians from any and all conceivable threats, the CF is not a job creator, thats a byproduct , its job is not to stimulate the economy, again if that happens its a by product. How are you going to move a permanent building that houses 400 troops from one base to another? Brick by brick? You said that the Cf was closing down and selling off buildings, they need to commute if you are closing down the kitchens and kicking out half of them out of the existing barracks to make room for kitchens, which means the CF builds expensive new infrastructure, houses the excess in mod tents or houses them in a different base from the one they work in. In what universe would driving 280km one way be "tactical"? There are few bases that would have excess living space if your "policy" is followed so it will be either 3-4h travel one way, billions of dollars of investment in barracks on every base in Canada or living in mod tents. No, high turnover is NOT good for the military, it is BAD for the military when you have all the experience and training leave the CF every couple of years. There are officers and NCMs that I look up to because they have tremendous experience more experience in the military than I have in life, having the majority of people leave at the end of the first or second contract serves no purpose because the loss of experience and the cost of retraining people to the same level every 5 years to see them leave. We have a militia, about 20,000 soldiers are in that militia plus the supplementary reserve with its 10,000 or more soldiers... we don't need a massive militia when there is no purpose. And truck drivers drive more than 2 and a half hours because IT IS THEIR JOB... you are saying that a soldier will drive 2 and a half hours to work, work for 10 or more hours and then drive back home for 2 and a half hours which BTW the CF will be paying because they live far from base due to no fault of their own. No, useless because now we have a professional, disciplined and world class military destroy the moral of the troops and things quickly deteriorate. Mess around too much and next year instead of losing 6,000 people the CF will lose 3 times that number, good luck trying to fill those positions, training them all the while remaining operational when knowing that the following year you will likely see similar exodus of experienced troops leaving the military which means that the quality of the CF as a whole will go down. Yeah and women get raped all the time, doesn't mean we should stop trying to prevent the rapes, punish the rapists and join in does it? I am pretty sure Canada doesn't have capital punishment, and then even if we did its not GENOCIDE: So you think the holocaust was just fine because the SS were doing their job without hate or passion? Kid, seriously experience the military life for even a year and then come back and talk to me, every soldier I know is willing to endure hardships when necessary but they are not willing to endure hardships when someone is just trying to screw with the system just for the heck of it. At some point people will look around, say F U I am not dealing with this any more and get a job where they can enjoy being with their family along with all the other previously mentioned benefits, this means a net loss tot he CF a loss that will be hard and expensive to regain. They are a necessity, otherwise you save a penny waste a dollar or ten. And why train at all, suddenly every soldier will be a cook and nothing else... infantry won't be training hard they will be growing their food... where do you propose that we grow this food? On the training ground? Right by the ranges? It is the food that is required to feed a platoon of soldiers plus training personnel. Rations cost a lot because it takes money to cook, package for long term storage, transport, store, transport to the field units, store and transport once again to the field where needed. So if we removed the cooks we need to increase ration production dramatically 20-50 times since its usually boxed lunches or hay boxes in the field unless rations are necessary so right there we take a financial hit. And when are the engineers and clerks, and supply techs and the 100 other trades going to do their jobs? So, to remove cooks we will build even more bases we don't need thereby tying down more troops in to non operational positions and more funds in unnecessary bases in order to grow enough food for 90,000 reg and reserve soldiers? How many soldiers would this tie down just in the growing portion? I am advancing my cause, because we can go without them as I have personally experienced in the field for weeks on end, just like going without the mess for weeks on end. Removing kitchens and cooks is about as good of an idea as removing bathrooms and showers. Apparently you have no idea how the world works, at least not the real world....

And you are making a joke out of it. And what criteria would you use to get to it? so it will be based on lottery? Genocide does not mean killing criminals... genocide means killing innocent men, women and children... not really the criminal type. Funny, thats the line the Hutu extremists used... I can see where you get your theories from.

Not when the infrastructure in question is completely unnecessary. So you think posting someone to cold lake and expecting them to live in edmonton at over 280km away is acceptable? When you are willing to do that for 5 or more years then you can talk, until the time you join the army and walk the walk please don't indulge on the talk too much. Sure... whats wrong? Didn't get your bedtime story 2 days in a row? And a military force with low moral is useless, when soldiers see that the government makes an already hard job that much harder for no apparent reason they will leave and get a job on civvie street... who will feel the ranks then? You? With all your talk but no action? You know nothing. Rape is rape, murder is murder and genocide is genocide, there is no "nice" and non hate genocide there is just genocide... it feels pretty hateful to the people experiencing the genocide. I have what I was issued, and I carry what I need... It is a necessity, troops will take as much crap as they have to if necessary but when you start throwing more crap on them then necessary the people find jobs somewhere else where they can be home everyday, they don't get shot at and they have more freedom of action. So cooks are necessary, finally seeing the light aren't we? Join the CF do a couple of years and then tell me how essential or non essential it is... I can tell you that the food we got from the mess to drive to the field for the troops is much cheaper than the alternative of the rations they would need to eat in the field. The food from the mess was about 60% or so of the cost per soldier than rations... now when you have to force the CF to field rations for every exercise whether for a day or a month. When you walk uphill both ways in knee deep snow barefoot. Gee why do we need bathrooms and showers in the barracks, we can just spray the troops outside or run them through the carwash... I live in shitty conditions when I need to, otherwise I prefer to live like a human being, if I had to live in field conditions 24/7 for years on end I would find a job that lets me have a life. You need more experience before you speak up, you know painfully little about the subject at hand and you have some very misguided beliefs when it comes to genocide... you need to grow up quite a bit before you spew your BS around here.

Because there is no need for it, it will cost more to build new infrastructure and update the old buildings to meet the new demands than it would cost to run kitchens. Once again you are demonstrating your talent for "solving" a problem that does not exist by creating a worse problem. And they are PMQ's not something the average Pte and Cpl gets to enjoy them. They sell facilities they do not need you can't pick up a building and move it on the other side of the country because you need barracks there, can't post a thousand soldiers to Cold Lake and have them living in Edmonton because that is where you have available space... That is not softness that is common sense, when its -40 outside few people feel like firing up the BBQ. Yes it is, you have 0 experience with the CF and are spewing bullshit that you know nothing about...so it is about you. Soldiers, sailors and aircrew have enough hardships to deal with as it is without having the military introduce extra hardships. 1) cooks are not a perk. 2) Who will do my job when I am killing a cow and preparing it for cooking? 3) I think there are laws about slaughtering the enemy... might want to read up on those if I were you. But then again, you support genocide so this is to be expected from you... In my one bedroom apartment I have about half of my bedroom just with my kit, when in barracks I get only about half of my bedroom to store my kit as well as personal stuff, thats also where a desk and a bed are placed so that doesn't leave much room for anything else. Again if you don't know about you are talking about stay in your lane... Oh really? And how did you come to that conclusion? I can and do cook for myself, but when I don't have the equipment I don't really have much option... or are you talking about your mom? Is she a cook on one of the bases? If so she is doing a good job... You don't know what you are talking about, when you grow up then we can talk, when you experience military life THEN we can talk... until then stay in your non-existent lane of expertise. No, not really, there are some trades that could be reworked but for the majority they are useful... Then stay in your lane. They are not catering, they are running a mess an essential service, we want the soldiers to eat healthy and go back to work rather than eat garbage 24/7 because they don't have the time or means to cook and perform. Congratulations this means you are qualified to be jtf2sniperninjaspecialforces...

What is the reasonable alternative? An aircraft that will cost less while having the same abilities as the F35 and will leave us with the capability to work with our allies?